The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[Stu]

Had a question about using the whip. Lets say I'm using the whip and playing video games. Now I won't be smoking the entire time but may take hits every 10-20 minutes or so. Do I keep the vape on at smoking temp with the bud in it during this time? Won't I be wasting it since I'm not using it the entire time?

Or am I supposed to turn it off every time and restart the warm up process to vape every time?

You may waste some, but very little IMO. I leave my shit loaded and on ready to rock for hours at a time and I feel that any actives I may have lost were a small price to pay to have a hit when it tickled my fancy. Elbow packs are even less of an issue IME.

YMMV.

 

[flotntoke]

Totally agree with Stu.. maybe loose a little but worth it.

Do this often while watching a game or movie. IME best is to elbow pack and keep temp 200C or lower. If leaving on whole time I wouldn't load more than you'll vape in an hour or two.

 

[1150A]

OK good to know. I just that if I hold up the whip to light, I do see vapor leaking out. Not sure if it was a big deal.

Definitely doing some more experimenting but still need to work on it a bit more. At this point, I still prefer my MFLB. For some reason, I'm not sure why, but the bud effects last longer when I'm using the MFLB vs the Q. Perhaps I may have been combusting with the MFLB the entire time?

 

[JJSeattle]

Whoops just saw the answer so disregard.

 

[flotntoke]

Definitely doing some more experimenting but still need to work on it a bit more. At this point, I still prefer my MFLB. For some reason, I'm not sure why, but the bud effects last longer when I'm using the MFLB vs the Q. Perhaps I may have been combusting with the MFLB the entire time?

Takes some practice to get better with the Q, too. MFLB and it have been my primary 2 vapes for a few years. If you're feeling higher for longer with LB, you still probably have a good bit of room to grow with the Q. Know it is a bitch to dig through, but there are many great tips in here. Might be easier to search and pluck than read the whole thread.

A few quick tips that should also be good searches (highlights=links search). Hopefully others will add a few more.

1. Get some silicone hose. No taste, no smell, probably healthier, more flexible. Much better experience IMO - I think. Never used the stock tubing on mine.
2. Get your material very dry and grind. Not quite as fine as is optimal for MFLB, but you want to get that extra surface area. Top of cable box or other warm electronics on a piece of paper dries pretty quick & nicely.
3. Elbow pack - not as hard as it may seem. I grind into small dish and suck it up into the elbow using the hose. Lightly pack and take a few nice hits. Stir & repeat.
4. Don't forego the bags just to be cool. They're great for figuring out your Q and fun at parties. Also nice for movies, gaming, whenever you don't feel like messing with the unit. A pencil eraser, the glass stirrer, a balled up rubber band and lots of other things can work as a stopper - or water in a bubbler will keep it all in the bag. Not too hard after first good hit takes down the air pressure.
5. Play with and adjust your temperature. This may be biggest reason why MFLB seems better. Plenty of opinions on this, but I start at 185C, take a few hits, stir, go to 195C and sometimes stir again and go to 205C. Depending on how the stash is, I might just go at 185 till flat and reload. Save your ABV for edibles (or whatever you like) and you can't lose. Lower temps leaves more actives for later.
6. I like using mine through water. Plenty of glass suggestions in thread and more all over FC. Some don't like it much, but IMO nothing like kicking back and having the Q on and attached to a bubbler. Get a good buzz on, then just lean over and take a big hit whenever you feel like it. Just as nice (and kind of portable) if you're using a bag, but best to finish in 20 minutes or so.
7. Play with it! This is still one of the most versatile vapes out there and experimenting and tweaking techniques is fun and rewarding! Sounds like you're on the right track there, but definitely don't get discouraged.

 

[Buildozer]

really let that cyclone warm up good, first(w/ the elbow on).. i was(almost) always too impatient to do that. but i realize now its really worth it. you can get a much response from lower temps.. i would always just use a higher temp than necessary instead of the patient warm up, and i didn't get as good of results.

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Had a question about using the whip. Lets say I'm using the whip and playing video games. Now I won't be smoking the entire time but may take hits every 10-20 minutes or so. Do I keep the vape on at smoking temp with the bud in it during this time? Won't I be wasting it since I'm not using it the entire time?

Or am I supposed to turn it off every time and restart the warm up process to vape every time?

I'd just turn it down a little if its not too much of a hassle for you... if not you wont be losing too much potency but the flavour will be quite shot after a while... just my two cents

Takes some practice to get better with the Q, too. MFLB and it have been my primary 2 vapes for a few years. If you're feeling higher for longer with LB, you still probably have a good bit of room to grow with the Q. Know it is a bitch to dig through, but there are many great tips in here. Might be easier to search and pluck than read the whole thread.

A few quick tips that should also be good searches (highlights=links search). Hopefully others will add a few more.

1. Get some silicone hose. No taste, no smell, probably healthier, more flexible. Much better experience IMO - I think. Never used the stock tubing on mine.
2. Get your material very dry and grind. Not quite as fine as is optimal for MFLB, but you want to get that extra surface area. Top of cable box or other warm electronics on a piece of paper dries pretty quick & nicely.
3. Elbow pack - not as hard as it may seem. I grind into small dish and suck it up into the elbow using the hose. Lightly pack and take a few nice hits. Stir & repeat.
4. Don't forego the bags just to be cool. They're great for figuring out your Q and fun at parties. Also nice for movies, gaming, whenever you don't feel like messing with the unit. A pencil eraser, the glass stirrer, a balled up rubber band and lots of other things can work as a stopper - or water in a bubbler will keep it all in the bag. Not too hard after first good hit takes down the air pressure.
5. Play with and adjust your temperature. This may be biggest reason why MFLB seems better. Plenty of opinions on this, but I start at 185C, take a few hits, stir, go to 195C and sometimes stir again and go to 205C. Depending on how the stash is, I might just go at 185 till flat and reload. Save your ABV for edibles (or whatever you like) and you can't lose. Lower temps leaves more actives for later.
6. I like using mine through water. Plenty of glass suggestions in thread and more all over FC. Some don't like it much, but IMO nothing like kicking back and having the Q on and attached to a bubbler. Get a good buzz on, then just lean over and take a big hit whenever you feel like it. Just as nice (and kind of portable) if you're using a bag, but best to finish in 20 minutes or so.
7. Play with it! This is still one of the most versatile vapes out there and experimenting and tweaking techniques is fun and rewarding! Sounds like you're on the right track there, but definitely don't get discouraged.

very well said! vaping through my stereo matrix is my favourite way to blaze. That being said, any vapor through water is kickass!

mod note: Please avoid back-to-back posts, use Edit instead. Two posts merged.

 

[Detonator]

I been really liking my q since I got it a few months ago. I was using the bag with the q. I been seeing all your cool water paths and read about how it was cooler. I finnally decided to try the water path, via vape. I hust used an old grommet style bong and stuck the house in the down stem. I like to start it with the fan on 3 then turn off the fan half way through the hit. The results were the milkiest tastiestest hit yet, yeah old bong is back to work. I still need to get a new tube cause the stock one is too, rigid.

http://s1273.photo

 

[TOWELIE 420]

I been really liking my q since I got it a few months ago. I was using the bag with the q. I been seeing all your cool water paths and read about how it was cooler. I finnally decided to try the water path, via vape. I hust used an old grommet style bong and stuck the house in the down stem. I like to start it with the fan on 3 then turn off the fan half way through the hit. The results were the milkiest tastiestest hit yet, yeah old bong is back to work. I still need to get a new tube cause the stock one is too, rigid.

http://s1273.photo

Glad to hear man! Vape bonging is a true pleasure. Here's my setup, with some added vapor in the bong for viewing pleasure

 

[flotntoke]

Nice setup, man! Suggestion for you though.... clean that puppy up. Looks like plenty of good reclaim on your glass. And, replace that hose. Could clean tubing too - I have but IMO not worth the hassle. You'll be surprised how much better it tastes (and works) when she's all cleaned up.

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Nice setup, man! Suggestion for you though.... clean that puppy up. Looks like plenty of good reclaim on your glass. And, replace that hose. Could clean tubing too - I have but IMO not worth the hassle. You'll be surprised how much better it tastes (and works) when she's all cleaned up.

Thanks a lot man! Im gunning to snipe a peyote pillar next off alt! Wish me luck! I've cleaned my whip many times, it just gets all oiled up again so fast ahaha. Especially with bomb bud. I also clean my bong daily, I just was too lazy to clean it before taking a picture when I don't consider vape resin dirty really, makes my bong smell quite nice actually if its a fruity, kushy strain like bubba. I don't bother scraping my bong for reclaim, the elbow hash n whip oil is pretty abundant, and its much easier to reclaim. I don't like to use iso extraction methods by the way or other chemicals like butane. Im going to replace my stock EQ whip, I've just been loafting and after three years its shitty smell has vanished and I can taste different strains quite well, especially with a clean screen and bong. I want to get one of the medical silicon high temp whips, just not sure where I can get them around my area. I've heard home depot carries them, but have yet to check. Anyways, thanks for the comment man! Hope your night is going well

 

[Stu]

I order mine from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/White-SiliconeTubing-16-Wall-Length/dp/B000FMWTSY/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_t_3

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Thanks, will look into it

 

[flotntoke]

Matrix looks fine from here. Was talking about your cyclone & elbow. Looks like enough reclaim in there to keep me going for a couple days!

 

[steven22]

hey guys, my extreme broke on my a couple months ago out of warranty and I have been meaning to replace ever since. Now I'm sure I cant do without one and am ready to pull the trigger, im just tight on funds and want to know what the cheapest you have seen for the 2013 version. I found $146 shipped.

I also found a 2012 version for $110. Is this a better deal than the 2013 for 146? Are the updates made this year really that significant?... The 2012 also comes with only 2 year warranty instead of 3 on the 2013.

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Matrix looks fine from here. Was talking about your cyclone & elbow. Looks like enough reclaim in there to keep me going for a couple days!

Ooooo ok makes more sense aha I was thinking to myself, damn, my bongs not really dirty at all ahah. But yee there is a bunch of elbow hash building up and my psyclone bowl has been slowly caking up over the years ahaha.I don't smoke anymore beside a random joint here and there, so my reclaim is saved and has been collecting. I only use it in joints really, used to smoke bowls of it but after so long of soley vaping, one really starts to become unaccustomed to the smoke taste. I can truly say, 'Fuck Combustion!" And mean it I will be cleaning elbow soon, when the airflow starts becoming restricted from the hash. Cheers man!

 

[hoptimum]

Ooooo ok makes more sense aha I was thinking to myself, damn, my bongs not really dirty at all ahah. But yee there is a bunch of elbow hash building up and my psyclone bowl has been slowly caking up over the years ahaha.I don't smoke anymore beside a random joint here and there, so my reclaim is saved and has been collecting. I only use it in joints really, used to smoke bowls of it but after so long of soley vaping, one really starts to become unaccustomed to the smoke taste. I can truly say, 'Fuck Combustion!" And mean it I will be cleaning elbow soon, when the airflow starts becoming restricted from the hash. Cheers man!

Hot chocolate

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Hot chocolate

Care to elaborate? Id like to make a nice medible hot chocolate

 

[hoptimum]

Care to elaborate? Id like to make a nice medible hot chocolate

Sure, simmer some whole milk, drop in your cyclone bowl and elbow, simmer until the fat in the milk removes the resin, take out your bowl and elbow, rinse them off and add some hot chocolate powder to the milk. Stir it up a little and enjoy.

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Sure, simmer some whole milk, drop in your cyclone bowl and elbow, simmer until the fat in the milk removes the resin, take out your bowl and elbow, rinse them off and add some hot chocolate powder to the milk. Stir it up a little and enjoy.

Fuck ya man! Thats sounds great. I want to make one now but I've got some shit to do so I think Ill have to make one tonight! Will the elbow give me a good enough kick alone? I was thinking of adding in some more whip hash i have saved up to increase the potency. Also, around how long would you suggest leaving it in the milk for, and if you know of any good alternatives to the milk as Im lactose intolerant

 

[hoptimum]

Fuck ya man! Thats sounds great. I want to make one now but I've got some shit to do so I think Ill have to make one tonight! Will the elbow give me a good enough kick alone? I was thinking of adding in some more whip hash i have saved up to increase the potency. Also, around how long would you suggest leaving it in the milk for, and if you know of any good alternatives to the milk as Im lactose intolerant

I'm not sure about the tubing, especially if its PVC. It might contain some chemicals you don't want to consume in your milk. I've only ever used it with milk, so I'm not sure a substance without lactose would work as well, but you could try something else, like maybe Almond breeze. i would start,with the elbow. It looks pretty gunked up. You will know if its working when the milk begins to turn brown from the resin.

 

[TOWELIE 420]

I'm not sure about the tubing, especially if its PVC. It might contain some chemicals you don't want to consume in your milk. I've only ever used it with milk, so I'm not sure a substance without lactose would work as well, but you could try something else, like maybe Almond breeze. i would start,with the elbow. It looks pretty gunked up. You will know if its working when the milk begins to turn brown from the resin.

Thanks for all the info man!i was actually talking about some elbow hash that i have saved up... Don't know why I called it whip hash lol. But ya i wouldnt dream of throwing the tube in hot milk lol. Ill just buy myself some lactose free organic milk and it should ease my pain ahhaa. Almond milk wouldnt work as well I don't think because I don't think there would b much fat content in it, if any. However, as typing this I thought of maybe adding a bit of coconut oil to the almond milk, then mixing that and that would probably help the thc absorption. Im going to try it soon! Ill let you know how it goes!

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

hey guys, my extreme broke on my a couple months ago out of warranty and I have been meaning to replace ever since. Now I'm sure I cant do without one and am ready to pull the trigger, im just tight on funds and want to know what the cheapest you have seen for the 2013 version. I found $146 shipped.

I also found a 2012 version for $110. Is this a better deal than the 2013 for 146? Are the updates made this year really that significant?... The 2012 also comes with only 2 year warranty instead of 3 on the 2013.

There is some discussion back in this thread about the updated version. IIRC Arizer claims ~2 dozen improvements, most of which are quality related. You can tell the newer version by its black casing and the temp control is in 1 degree increments rather than 5. I used both side-by-side and performance wise I see no difference. So for the extra bucks you should be getting higher quality and longer life.

Whatever you buy, be sure it is from an authorized dealer lest there be warranty claim problems in the future. Also btw there are FC discounts here with many major online retailers; e.g., puffitup will match an legit price and they are a well-established Arizer dealer.

 

[Nesta]

Glad to hear man! Vape bonging is a true pleasure. Here's my setup, with some added vapor in the bong for viewing pleasure

Is that an EQ elbow connected to the bowl of the bong? Do you use an adaptor, if so, what size?

 

[flotntoke]

The EQ elbow is 18.8mm (sometimes called 18 or even 19). Most GONGs (glass on glass) are 18.8 or 14mm. So, if you have an 18 no adapter needed. Just put an elbow on each end and you're ready to go. If you have 14mm glass, you can get a 14>18 adapter. Or, just get a 14mm "vape adapter" (a glass end for hose). Or, depending on your tubing you can just put the tubing straight in the glass.

However, as typing this I thought of maybe adding a bit of coconut oil to the almond milk, then mixing that and that would probably help the thc absorption. Im going to try it soon! Ill let you know how it goes!

Coconut milk works great!! There's a whole forum about edibles with tons of info here. Check it out. But quickly, you need the fat in whatever you use for the THC (wand/elbow hash) to blend with. Cooking oil works (peanut, olive, canola, etc). Anything not fatty - like water - doesn't work well. You could do it but you want to make sure you keep and drink the oil slick. You'd have to get all the goop out of there somehow, but also nice to mix with peanut butter or nutella.

Make sure you don't heat too much (keep it under 225F IME), and be aware eating can be quite a bit different than smoking or vaping. Let us know how you do!