The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[TommydCat]

18mm is best if you wish to use one of the elbows that came with the EQ, but not necessary - the VaporBros Mini-Hydrator (as in my sig) came with a tube to 14mm adapter that fit right into the top Dewar joint -- just make sure you get the right adapter with the glass you get. And also check above for those that invert their EQ and put it right on their piece!

Also if you choose to whip more, get better hosing (food-grade silicone imo), and check out some of the cheap bubblers in that thread that come with a 14mm gong mouthpiece -- you can put this INLINE with your whip, so you get the benefit of a bubbler while still using the whip.

And lastly, get a better whip end-piece (Combining the two ideas above, there was a whip end that contained a spill-proof bubbler, but have to go back in the thread to find 'em)

 

[flotntoke]

I've had my Q for a few years now and it still gets plenty of use - usually with glass. Have used it on everything in my signature and a few others. 18mm gong keeps things simpler (just use an EQ elbow on other end of tubing). Or, as mentioned above, you can go with 14mm and just pick up a tubing - 14mm adapter. Shorter tubing works better, but I've had no problem pulling through 5' during parties. For daily use I usually keep it under a foot.

IME a lower volume piece works best. Not like you can't draw a little in through the water before taking the tube off and clearing. And, smaller pieces tend to be cheaper. Don't feel like you have to go out and plunk down $400 - 500 on nice glass. You can, and there is some really nice stuff out there, but just a little water to tame the vapor gets the job done. Less diffusion seems to work a bit better with a vape to maintain flavor. This thread has many budget options Cheap, high quality bubbler? And, a little thing called an AquaVape is cheap ($50) and does the job. No adapter needed for it either - it connects straight to your tubing. It's also surprisingly spill proof, though not too easy to clean well.

If you're thinking about inverting the EQ directly to your glass, you'll need an 18mm male-male piece (for 18mm gong on piece). You'll also need clearance around your glass piece for the EQ to fit or a Dewar joint (on top of bubbler). I've done it, but don't really see a need if you're using short tubing and keep it reasonably clean. See my post and a bunch of others a page back for more on that.

And as always, I STRONGLY suggest getting some good silicon food grade tubing - whether you're connecting to glass or just going straight from the hose. Many posts about it here in the thread.

edit - Sorry, Tommy... just reread your post and realized you're talking about the AquaVape (or similar) as a "whip-end piece". Great name for such a thing, but first I heard it. Didn't catch it till I re-read. Sweet stuff makes ya stupid sometimes - ya know?

 

[TommydCat]

AquaVape isn't what I couldn't think of -- spot on followup!

 

[1150A]

Hey Guys,
Just got an Extreme Q and still trying to figure out what works best for me but I'm not having the results I expected.

I'm comparing from an MFLB that I've used for the last year.

Here's what I do with the whip:
1. Heat up to about 200c (5-10 minutes) w/ empty cyclone bowl attached
2. Go down to 190c and drop the material in cyclone bowl (about 1/5 of material up to blackpart of cyclone bowl)
3. Attach whip and do slow pulls
4. I pull slow and speed up towards the end.

I can see the material getting brown and I feel the effects slightly, but I notice it's a different high, doesn't last very long. Sometimes, I can get vapor clouds, other times I can't. I'm not sure what I'm doing differently/incorrectly.

When the material gets slightly brown, I will not get a cloud at all, so I'm not sure if it's working, or if I'm just pulling air, as I'm already effected by my first hit.

When I compare to the MFLB, I get slightly thicker clouds and the material lasts a lot longer.

Am I using it incorrectly? Not filling the cyclone bowl enough? Should I keep the fan on? Not heating it up long enough?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I got the Extreme Q b/c it was difficult to teach my friends how to use an MFLB as it takes some technique. I'm coming to find the the EQ you'll have to have some technique too, and I can't figure it out for myself yet..

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Hey Guys,
Just got an Extreme Q and still trying to figure out what works best for me but I'm not having the results I expected.

I'm comparing from an MFLB that I've used for the last year.

Here's what I do with the whip:
1. Heat up to about 200c (5-10 minutes) w/ empty cyclone bowl attached
2. Go down to 190c and drop the material in cyclone bowl
3. Attach whip and do slow pulls
4. I pull slow and speed up towards the end.

I can see the material getting brown and I feel the effects slightly, but it's light and doesn't last very long. I do not see vapor clouds at all. It's difficult to tell when the material is done.

I want to ask:
Does it sound like I'm doing this right?
How do I know when my material is done? It is hard to tell when I don't see the cloud.

It's a different high compared to my MFLB. Perhaps I'm combusting on the MFLB? Any suggestions would be great. I'm looking to an easy method so that friends can come over and share a bowl. The MFLB does takes some practice to get right, so I purchased the desktop Extreme Q in hopes to have my friends vape with me without worrying too much about technique.

Hey man! Welcome to the EQ! Im sure you'll love it once you get a few techniques down. If you want those nice milky hits, I suggest trying out the elbow pack method. This is where you place an elbow screen in your elbow, (glass piece that slides onto the psyclone bowl) and you pack the herb lightly into the elbow. Then place it ontop of the psyclone bowl and vape however your heart desires! You do not need to fill up the elbow all the way either to get milky hits. I fill mine up half way usually, maybe a little over, and i get two massive hits or 4 good sized ones. I've owned an EQ for years and ever since I hit my first elbow I've never looked back aha. Some people also pack some herb in the psyclone and the elbow as well, for an extra tasty and cloudy hit Im assuming. Try this man and get back to me! Any questions just ask!

 

[TOWELIE 420]

On a side note, the stirring tool included in your vape is perfect for packing elbows, simply use the blunt side and it will fit nicely into the elbow. I usually stir my elbow after every hit, sometimes two

 

[1150A]

Thanks, I'll try the elbow again today and see how it goes.

I'm curious, when you guys are warming up the EQ, how long do you do it for? If you're using the cyclone bowl, do you leave your material in while it's warming up? If so, isn't this wasting vapor?

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Thanks, I'll try the elbow again today and see how it goes.

I'm curious, when you guys are warming up the EQ, how long do you do it for? If you're using the cyclone bowl, do you leave your material in while it's warming up? If so, isn't this wasting vapor?

Ill warm up my vape for at least five minutes. If you want to get started quicker without waiting, you can jack up the temp a bit and throw on the fan. This will get your glass nice n warmed up. Generally i don't leave my bud in the elbow while im heating it up, but if you want to thats fine. There will be minimal thc lost probably but not much as long as you don't keep it sitting there for hours and the temps not that high.

 

[JJSeattle]

I do the same as Towelie, I warm everything up including the empty elbow and whip (using the fan once after it gets warm) and then I lightly pack the elbow screen. I also read in here that you can empty the elbow contents into the bowl halfway through, stir and hit it again. That seem to work well for me.

I don't use the fan at all other than to warm up stuff and blow up balloons.

 

[1150A]

And also, should it be harsh on the throat? After reading a bit here, people are saying higher tempers can be harsh on the throat. This is my first desktop vape and it has never felt harsh, so I feel I may not be doing it correctly? In fact, all I get through the whip is some flavor, no warm heat. I can't really tell if it's actual vapor.

Hope this is not too much of a newbie question. My MFLB produces visible vapor and can make me cough but I learned how to control it. I can't smoke weed through a pipe, paper either because it's too harsh, so I'm definitely not accustomed to harshness.

 

[JJSeattle]

In my experience, it's flavorful at first and you may feel like you are getting nothing, I never notice any heat...but after 3ish hits it will get harsher and produce more white vapor. You may not be using enough product. Have you tried lightly packing the elbow screen full yet? Also I use a 388-392F temp depending on how damp the product is (you need to covert to C). I am not sure if this is the best temp range but what I cobbled together after reading many threads on the subject here (open to a better temp range if anyone can advise). Here in the Pacific Northwest we get a lot of damp product.

I have never used a MFLB or another vaporizer so I can't compare on how others function.

I think newbie questions are great because they help all the new people that come after you.

 

[TOWELIE 420]

And also, should it be harsh on the throat? After reading a bit here, people are saying higher tempers can be harsh on the throat. This is my first desktop vape and it has never felt harsh, so I feel I may not be doing it correctly? In fact, all I get through the whip is some flavor, no warm heat. I can't really tell if it's actual vapor.

Hope this is not too much of a newbie question. My MFLB produces visible vapor and can make me cough but I learned how to control it. I can't smoke weed through a pipe, paper either because it's too harsh, so I'm definitely not accustomed to harshness.

Once you do the elbow pack it might be a bit tougher on the lungs but thats because theres way more thc in there at once. Without going through water vape can be a little harsh, ir even through water after a long sesh of many large hits aha. Pce man

 

[jeff]

And also, should it be harsh on the throat? After reading a bit here, people are saying higher tempers can be harsh on the throat. This is my first desktop vape and it has never felt harsh, so I feel I may not be doing it correctly? In fact, all I get through the whip is some flavor, no warm heat. I can't really tell if it's actual vapor.

Hope this is not too much of a newbie question. My MFLB produces visible vapor and can make me cough but I learned how to control it. I can't smoke weed through a pipe, paper either because it's too harsh, so I'm definitely not accustomed to harshness.

Higher temps are harsher because the heat is higher. The vape has two harshness factors. A milky chalky vape hit can be harsh just like any other big hit. Also the heat creates harshness by drying your throat out. Running the EQ through a bubbler is amazing. That will limit your harshness to taking a huge choking hit that will fuck your shit up.

When I first started vaping I felt it kept me high longer. Really it is just different also. The vape gets you high as hell, but unless you run real high temps it gets you less stoned. That may be what you are missing. I usually hit it at 375. Sometimes i go as high as 385.

I usually let it warm up 20 minutes. 5 is minimum. For sure after twenty it is hitting better for me.

 

[JJSeattle]

Thanks, I will try a lower temp and see how that is. I wasn't really sure what the best temp was.

 

[jeff]

Thanks, I will try a lower temp and see how that is. I wasn't really sure what the best temp was.

Just remember temp alters the effects

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Lower temps... More head high. Higher temps.. More body

 

[flotntoke]

All above is definitely good advice. Like anything, there's a bit of a learning curve. Play with it a little and you should find the sweet spots you're looking for that will work well with your stash. I'd also strongly suggest picking up some nice silicone tubing (search this thread for plenty of info). Using it should also give you much better/more noticeable flavor of your meds.

Have you tried blowing any bags, yet? They're pretty fun anyway (even if vapor does tend to get a little stale sometimes), but could help you in your quest for getting the vapor you're looking for. Try using fan speed 2 at about 190C with either an elbow or cyclone pack. With the amount it seems your putting in you should get at least one nice bag at 190C (maybe 2), and you should be able to pull 2 good bags if you stir in between and kick the heat up to 200C for the second. Same as MFLB, less draw (or fan) creates denser vapor - more draw gives lighter vapor. Experimenting with the bag can be useful because you can set and easily repeat your variables, you get to see the vapor and you'll get more than a few really good hits per bag of the exact same setup. You can easily adjust fan, temp and load method to get a good feel for how this puppy works. Once you do, it's not too hard to do the same with the whip and you'll get much better with that in no time.

Just have fun with it! It's not as hard to get started with it as some people find with an MFLB, but since the EQ is so versatile you'll probably be discovering and tweaking new techniques for quite some time. This thread is a bear to read at 227 pages now, but you'll find a lot of great suggestions all through it.

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Well said flotntoke! Hope everyone is having a great week. Shouts out from Toronto!

 

[lordo54]

Hey Guys,

I just go one recently and have a question. I am concerned some herb fell through the cyclone bowls onto the heating mesh, is there a way to remove that mesh and clean it? Or is there a way to replace it and should I concerned?

Thanks for your help!

 

[pakalolo]

Hey Guys,

I just go one recently and have a question. I am concerned some herb fell through the cyclone bowls onto the heating mesh, is there a way to remove that mesh and clean it? Or is there a way to replace it and should I concerned?

Thanks for your help!

It's possible to remove that mesh and clean it but it's a royal PITA. Fortunately, it's not really necessary. I'd just invert it and shake gently to get rid of loose material, but you probably don't even need to do that. A few flakes falling on the heater won't do any damage.

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

Hey Guys,

I just go one recently and have a question. I am concerned some herb fell through the cyclone bowls onto the heating mesh, is there a way to remove that mesh and clean it? Or is there a way to replace it and should I concerned?

Thanks for your help!

I use a can of compressed air to gently clean on/around the heater element.

 

[TOWELIE 420]

Hey Guys,

I just go one recently and have a question. I am concerned some herb fell through the cyclone bowls onto the heating mesh, is there a way to remove that mesh and clean it? Or is there a way to replace it and should I concerned?

Thanks for your help!

I flip it upside down and well and give it a light shake, or I'll lightly blow on the element and this usually does the trick. Sometimes a quick brush on the heater screen with your finger is all it takes. I wouldnt worry about it, edpecially if your herb is very finely ground you're going to have some of that happening.everything should still continue to work fine! Enjoy the new vape man!

 

[lordo54]

Thanks for the all the replies guys, glad to know it's not a problem. Really enjoying the extreme Q!

 

[Airlesscoma]

Extreme Q kicks ass, I prefer to use the bags, a good bag to the face does the job
I've had mine for a year or so and it is still running strong.

 

[1150A]

Had a question about using the whip. Lets say I'm using the whip and playing video games. Now I won't be smoking the entire time but may take hits every 10-20 minutes or so. Do I keep the vape on at smoking temp with the bud in it during this time? Won't I be wasting it since I'm not using it the entire time?

Or am I supposed to turn it off every time and restart the warm up process to vape every time?