So my 3 mm beads got in today. This is about as full as I can fill it.
Is this enough?
Is this enough?
The ELEV8R from Elev8 Vehicles
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Warpdrive
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I'm using the Disorderly Conduction e-nail from Vgoodiez and I'm zoned in at 540f. Anyplace between 520f and 555f is golden for me and all of my friends regardless of draw speed or length. But there are some who have super fast draw speeds or super slow. Not everyone is going to use the same temps. That's for sure. 600f if using the Stone for concentrates.After two rips at 420, how dark is your material?
I had a budget nail/controller, and I had it between 775-815 to clear a bowl in one. Someone mentioned that the controller probably wasn't calibrated, and that I wasn't actually at 815, so I'm interested to hear others temps.
Oh, and my material is definitely more on the toasty black side of doneness spectrum, with a few specks of light brown and no green or blond.
nonamekevin
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Imo, it's too many, but I'm not a fan of beads in the elev8r. I felt that adding beads killed the free-draw nature of the piece and just took the life out of it.
If I was going to add beads again, I'd only fill half way.
Edit: thanks homies for letting me know about the pid temps y'all are using. Sounds about right, mine was a cheap controller also.
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I am waiting for my coil and controller before I can try it out.Imo, it's too many, but I'm not a fan of beads in the elev8r. I felt that adding beads killed the free-draw nature of the piece and just took the life out of it.
If I was going to add beads again, I'd only fill half way.
Edit: thanks homies for letting me know about the pid temps y'all are using. Sounds about right, mine was a cheap controller to.
I found the Elev8r too open flow when I used it with the torch and no beads, I like some draw resistance.
GoldenBud
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Atleast try 1 time the elev8r fully opened, no beads, but slow/very slow draw. Another great aspect of this vape, really enjoyable one
Vapefanatic
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My personal preference goes to beads as well. I think it's a little like FlowerPots. Some like to cap, some don't.
Razshiro
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Lotus wpa in place of Elev8R bowl !!
About the boro beads, Elev8R support told me this:
" Adding a bead inside the heater is definitely not something we recommend doing. It adds further heat up time and varying rates of thermal expansion between quartz and boro will cause breakage of the heater. "
nonamekevin
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Besides the G43 and GS, which were designed to use beads, I haven't seen a vape that really benefits from the addition of beads. The elev8r and the SSV both work flawlessly without them, and both are powerful enough to match any draw speed or water setup you can through at them.
Jesus ?!?
It's not too hot ? Weed is very close frome the heater.
What is the advantage ? Micro dosing ?
GoldenBud
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the bowl closer to the heater means you can save some calories heating it, lower temperature
Cervical CBD
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I have 1 on the way. It is my 3rd butane vape and I hope I’ll like it. How is the technique learning factor compared to a Sticky Brick? I have a Runt that I love but I’m still inconsistent with it.
nonamekevin
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The elev8r is stupid simple, even with a torch. Focus the flame on the heater dimples, heat for 20-45 seconds, draw. That's it. It will take some trials to see how long to heat for your draw speed, but combustion isn't nearly a concern like the runt.
Cervical CBD
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The elev8r is stupid simple, even with a torch. Focus the flame on the heater dimples, heat for 20-45 seconds, draw. That's it. It will take some trials to see how long to heat for your draw speed, but combustion isn't nearly a concern like the runt.
Thank you. I think part of the problem with the runt currently is I’m getting over Covid and it hurts to breathe at times. My SSV is a lot easier for me...
If you are you are using a torch you don't want beads, but with a coil you need some beads to retain the heat longer. Otherwise you need the temp way high and it takes time to recover between hits.
So do you run your coil elev8r without balls? That would explain higher temps than others are quoting.Imo, it's too many, but I'm not a fan of beads in the elev8r. I felt that adding beads killed the free-draw nature of the piece and just took the life out of it.
If I was going to add beads again, I'd only fill half way.
Edit: thanks homies for letting me know about the pid temps y'all are using. Sounds about right, mine was a cheap controller also.
I thought that was sarcasm?
You couldn't squeeze more in there if you tried.As long as it pulls to your liking then all good. With so many balls you might be able to keep temp a bit lower, but will need longer to heat soak.
How well does it fit out of the box? If it is just slightly loose you might find it easier to wrap the heater in thin stainless wire to pack it out. I didn't strech mine and it works fine.
If heater is too big to fit you will need to get into it with some big adjustable pliers and a vice. Protect the pliers end with tape and start at handle and work out gradually as you widen and open. Probably go a little oversize until you can just slip it in. Then small adjustments until it's holding without any fear of falling out into your lap- not good
The wire helps here because you can wrap and knot the ends around the coil so it physically can't fall out. It also helps heat transfer quicker. Good luck.
Consolidated21
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Is the flame you have on the previous page powered by gas or butane / propane?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
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The tank says butane, the description says it is a mixture of butane and propane.
It looked like a pretty close fit but because of the nipple on the heater I’ll have to space the coil anyway.I thought that was sarcasm?
As long as it pulls to your liking then all good. With so many balls you might be able to keep temp a bit lower, but will need longer to heat soak.
How well does it fit out of the box? If it is just slightly loose you might find it easier to wrap the heater in thin stainless wire to pack it out. I didn't strech mine and it works fine.
If heater is too big to fit you will need to get into it with some big adjustable pliers and a vice. Protect the pliers end with tape and start at handle and work out gradually as you widen and open. Probably go a little oversize until you can just slip it in. Then small adjustments until it's holding without any fear of falling out into your lap- not good
The wire helps here because you can wrap and knot the ends around the coil so it physically can't fall out. It also helps heat transfer quicker. Good luck.
To return to the beads, how do you secure the bottom screen in the heater? It doesn’t look secure at all.
Mine sits in nice and firm, but glass is variable so yours might be a fraction wider. If you are concerned you might need to get a bigger screen and cut it down and basket over the edges so it jams in good. But if you shake it around and it stays put you are probably ok. If the balls are wedged and don't roll loosely, they are not as likely to push out the screen.
Warpdrive
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The screen is heavy duty and won't bend or move in any way without you messing around with it. It is press fit into the bottom. Unless the glass is out of spec and too large, the screen is not going anywhere.
nonamekevin
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Yes, I tried the elev8r with balls and quickly realized the draw was too restrictive for me. I can't be the only one who used a coil and no beads though...?
Warpdrive
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A lot use no balls. Once an old timer is used to the free flow of the original, it's hard to add balls.
I'm lucky in that I didn't try it without balls first, so the extra airflow of the original was nice but I'm now so used to it with balls that without it, it feels strange.
It's ready.
Can't wait to try it but I will have to wait until later tonight.
Can't wait to try it but I will have to wait until later tonight.