Vapormatic
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2$ Cable, found parts at thrift shop!
The Arizer Air
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bluenavey00
Arizer Air Aficionado
Here are pics of an aftermarket case that I found in L.A.
This is probably one of the most compact cases you can get for the AA, as you can see there's only room for the unit, 2 stems, and 2 canisters (one for grinded herb, one for toasted herb). It is roughly the size of a sunglasses case. There is no room for the charger, extra batteries or extra stems. The case is shock proof and has 2 zipper clasps. You can substitute a canister for a battery if you prefer, or get a second case for the battery, charger, and stems. Unfortunately I do not know where you can buy this online, but they are readily available at the water pipe/glass distributor that I frequently visit, in "Bong Row" Los Angeles. If anyone is interested in this case, shoot me a message and I can get you one for $5.
If you want to be a little more stealth, they have the same case that says "eGo" on the metal tag, instead of "Vapor". They have about 5-6 colors. Just a heads up.
Hello
I am very glad you have seen these cases, after a bit of searching I have found the case online and available in the UK.
Turns out you must have the largest size, and there are also a medium and small size (links below)
Could you just confirm by measuring that yours is the large.
I am tempted to even downsize slightly to a medium (or possibly small) as the sizes given for the air show it to be smaller than the case. Air size is 122mm in Height and 29 diameter.
When I want it most portable I only really carry the vape, one steam and one J holder tube.
From the measurements and your experience with the size you have what do you think?
Large:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/eGo-Electro...ds=eGo+Electronic+Cigarette+Rigid+Zipper+Case
Med:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/eGo-Electro...ds=eGo+Electronic+Cigarette+Rigid+Zipper+Case
Small:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/eGo-Electro...ds=eGo+Electronic+Cigarette+Rigid+Zipper+Case
McSheamus
Well-Known Member
IMO the Solo is better looking with the long airpath, whereas the Air sits much better in your hand. I haven't tested the difference in flavor and all, but it's not gonna be a big difference.
Like it has been said, if you want stealth, go with the Air. Otherwise IMO it's just burning your cash.
Hi from sunny Wales,
I'd like to jump in on this thread to get any opinions on a few questions I have in trying to decide if I should get an arizer air, or a PAX. I gave up combustion several years ago and got myself a MFLB, which is still my only vaporizer. Saying that, a friend has a PAX, which I have tried a few times. I do like it.
The main points that I'm concerned about are , quality of flavour , stealth and reliability. It seems to me that the PAX wins on stealth, with no tubes sticking out. It also seems to me that the arizer has a smaller bowl and with it being part of the glass stem, more fiddly to load. But the AIR is cheaper .So there you go, I'll put a very similar post up on the PAX thread to try to clarify issues of warranty in the UK and battery changing etc for the Pax. hope someone can help me decide.
Cheers, Bagpuss .
I'd like to jump in on this thread to get any opinions on a few questions I have in trying to decide if I should get an arizer air, or a PAX. I gave up combustion several years ago and got myself a MFLB, which is still my only vaporizer. Saying that, a friend has a PAX, which I have tried a few times. I do like it.
The main points that I'm concerned about are , quality of flavour , stealth and reliability. It seems to me that the PAX wins on stealth, with no tubes sticking out. It also seems to me that the arizer has a smaller bowl and with it being part of the glass stem, more fiddly to load. But the AIR is cheaper .So there you go, I'll put a very similar post up on the PAX thread to try to clarify issues of warranty in the UK and battery changing etc for the Pax. hope someone can help me decide.
Cheers, Bagpuss .
bluenavey00
Arizer Air Aficionado
Hello
Im not expert on other vapes as I have only owned an Air. In terms of quality the Air is great for me, on lower temps smooth with lots of flavour, again I haven't used many other vapes so comparison wise im not sure but everyone regards the Air pretty highly.
Stealth wise it isnt going to be as great as the pax, but for stealth I use the shorter plastic tipped steam, on this forum people have also improved on this by covering the glass with either a plastic cover or heat shrink tubing to increase stealth. Depending on your usage requirements this vape definitely has the ability to be pretty stealthy. However there more stealthy models on the internet, but do they keep up in other areas, I dont think so.
I think the glass stem loading method is great, carry a small pot of pre ground herb, poke the glass steam in there, pack pretty lightly and thats it. Also great for cleaning as I just soak the glass in some ISO every now and again and blow out the heating element.
Vapormatic
Well-Known Member
Works great & gives options with USB batt pack for backcountry use. Already put away the factory charger!
-Marketing, Packaging, Instructions & Controls Interface are all in Ploom's favor
-Pax preheats in 30sec while it takes AA 10sec just to turn heater on, then another minute and a half to preheat.
-Air is heated as it passes thru Pax's herb chamber; conduction
-Air is cooled as is passes thru AA herb chamber; convection
-Pax needs regular cleaning, AA could go forever without,
They're both innovative, but if you like quick small hits, the Pax rips well, but if you after something a little more versatile, go AA.
For me it was a decision of global economics, with $CAD/USD$ Setting the Pax 50% more expensive here in Canada…
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
My opinion , Pax beats the air in the stealth department . That's about it . air kills it hands down in every other way. The taste is better , it's easier to maintain,uses less material , price and the fact you can swap batteries . Go with a Air and you won't turn back. I had a pax in the past and the air is my favorite portable I own .
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
The Pax maybe stealth but it loses in the flavor department. It cooks the herb like the Pinnacle Pro and loses flavor right after a couple of draws.
EDIT
When I spend money on herb I don't want to waist it by cooking the life and flavor out of it. I'm a lover of vapor flavor.
EDIT
When I spend money on herb I don't want to waist it by cooking the life and flavor out of it. I'm a lover of vapor flavor.
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OF
Well-Known Member
I'm sure it does, it's a simple mechanical problem, no electronics involved. But understand he didn't find a single cable to do the job, he bought two different ones, cut them in half and spliced them together (notice the size and color change each side of the tape in the middle).
Good solution for those with the tools and skills needed, but I think the best solution for most will be a single (hopefully cheap) cable that's easy to get for everyone and either works as is or has at most a simple mod (like slicing off some of the rubber).
True enough, but only the 70mm stem with the plastic top. The 60mm one and the short all glass one are also offered on the Arizer site now, hopefully soon on PV, PIU and the rest?
I disagree, Air is not a convection vape. The air is heated to the same temperature as the load is, it provides basically zero of the energy needed to evaporate the good stuff. Convection needs calories of heat being delivered by hot gas, that means the gas starts out hotter and drops temperature to give that energy up to the load. That's not happening here. At best all that happens by preheating the air is you don't waste heat in the load doing it there.
This is confirmed by the thermocouple temperature measurements in the load I reported a year or so back. The load nearest the wall actually cools a bit in the hit. Convection does move the heat to the center of the load somewhat during the hit, but that's basically heat already in the load by conduction.
I say it's conduction as well, not convection, for the most part. Thermodynamics and efficiency (convection vapes tend to use a lot of power for the same job) support this as well as the direct measurements I think.
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jojo0420
Cloud Chaser
Because I was impatient and ordered a spare battery from Arizer, PIU now has them in stock. With free shipping, Doh! And their standard discount...
Who has the best deal on that external battery charger everyone is talking about, the D4?
Edit:
After a few minutes research I see Amazon has the Nitecore D4 for $32 and the D2 for $19, both on Prime. Any reason to get the D4 over the D2 if I don't need to charge 4 cells?
Who has the best deal on that external battery charger everyone is talking about, the D4?
Edit:
After a few minutes research I see Amazon has the Nitecore D4 for $32 and the D2 for $19, both on Prime. Any reason to get the D4 over the D2 if I don't need to charge 4 cells?
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Airmaster One
AA Enthusiast
Hello
I am very glad you have seen these cases, after a bit of searching I have found the case online and available in the UK.
Turns out you must have the largest size, and there are also a medium and small size (links below)
Could you just confirm by measuring that yours is the large.
I am tempted to even downsize slightly to a medium (or possibly small) as the sizes given for the air show it to be smaller than the case. Air size is 122mm in Height and 29 diameter.
When I want it most portable I only really carry the vape, one steam and one J holder tube.
From the measurements and your experience with the size you have what do you think?
Large:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/eGo-Electronic-Cigarette-Zipper--Large/dp/B00JZONDLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1423387091&sr=8-1&keywords=eGo Electronic Cigarette Rigid Zipper Case
Med:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/eGo-Electro...ds=eGo Electronic Cigarette Rigid Zipper Case
Small:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/eGo-Electronic-Cigarette-Zipper--Small/dp/B00JZOMZ9G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1423387091&sr=8-3&keywords=eGo Electronic Cigarette Rigid Zipper Case
Hello, nice find! Awesome that youre able to get it in the UK, nice.. I can confirm that the case I have is the large size (190mm x 95mm x 40mm). For me it's perfect because I can fit extra herb and 2 stems comfortably. But I believe the medium case would be fine as well, but the green canisters I had in my photos would probably not fit. Here's a pic to give you an idea of the difference in size, if you look at the upper crate, there is a green and white case - those are medium sized. To the left of the green and white, there is a blue case which is large sized. The cases in the bottom crates are all large.
I think the medium case would be just fine enough to have the AA, 2 stems, and maybe a small canister for herbs. I think the small sized case would have only enough room for the AA, and maybe one stem. I actually didn't really think of getting a smaller case than the large, but I may opt for a medium or small, now that you've given me the idea (the stealthy the better). On Monday morning I am going to visit this shop again and will buy a small and medium case, and will follow it up with photos for you and anyone else interested. These are pretty darn good quality cases for the price.
Barhen
Well-Known Member
NOPE! I got the D4 when it was on sale for 17 bucks or around there. If you not going to have 4 batteries to charge, get the cheaper one. Only reason I got the d4 because it was cheap(on sale) and I like having options!
bluenavey00
Arizer Air Aficionado
Hello, nice find! Awesome that youre able to get it in the UK, nice.. I can confirm that the case I have is the large size (190mm x 95mm x 40mm). For me it's perfect because I can fit extra herb and 2 stems comfortably. But I believe the medium case would be fine as well, but the green canisters I had in my photos would probably not fit. Here's a pic to give you an idea of the difference in size, if you look at the upper crate, there is a green and white case - those are medium sized. To the left of the green and white, there is a blue case which is large sized. The cases in the bottom crates are all large.
I think the medium case would be just fine enough to have the AA, 2 stems, and maybe a small canister for herbs. I think the small sized case would have only enough room for the AA, and maybe one stem. I actually didn't really think of getting a smaller case than the large, but I may opt for a medium or small, now that you've given me the idea (the stealthy the better). On Monday morning I am going to visit this shop again and will buy a small and medium case, and will follow it up with photos for you and anyone else interested. These are pretty darn good quality cases for the price.
Thanks for the description and the photos
Please will you update when you get hold of the small and the medium ones. That would be a great help!
Glad you like the idea of being small and stealthy, not sure about you but most the time the AA one steam and a small amount of herb will be fine for me.
Cheers for your help
Airmaster One
AA Enthusiast
No problem, I will return with pics on Monday. I'm definitely gonna get a medium size as well.
By the way people, just a heads up: Last week I placed an order at PIU for a 60mm MP tube (the normal tube that comes with the AA), but I ended up receiving the 70mm MP tube. Initially I was thinking of telling Randy I wanted to exchange it for the 60mm, but I ended up liking the 70mm because the holes are further apart from eachother (when compared to the original short MP tube) and even seem a tad bit bigger. I get a better, bigger draw from the 70mm, but sacrifice a little stealth.
By the way people, just a heads up: Last week I placed an order at PIU for a 60mm MP tube (the normal tube that comes with the AA), but I ended up receiving the 70mm MP tube. Initially I was thinking of telling Randy I wanted to exchange it for the 60mm, but I ended up liking the 70mm because the holes are further apart from eachother (when compared to the original short MP tube) and even seem a tad bit bigger. I get a better, bigger draw from the 70mm, but sacrifice a little stealth.
KidFated.
Unknown Member
The longer stems were the only ones available, and I believe arizer is the only seller with the 60mm version.
Airmaster One
AA Enthusiast
Yeah, on the PIU website it doesn't specify that its a 70mm.. and from the picture it appears to be the stock 60mm tube. It would have been nice if they let you know you're getting the 70mm. Just a heads up for anyone planning on ordering the short stem from PIU.
ichibaneye
Vapriot, Traveler & Vaporizer/ing lover!
All you have to do is call the Company who makes the product > your name brand< and ask them if they have a distributor partnership with Namastevapes. Simple & problems/worries solved.
They do not sell knock offs, seconds or Chinese fakes. The issues you speak of are not all they are chalked up to be here on FC. The company grew faster than any other once they took on business all over the planet basically. Anyone will run into problems while growing so fast & large. Most (problems) of them being impatient and bullheaded consumers who want it all now. Drive through mentality types is how they present. Kory an Owner of Namastevapes will go above and beyond expectations to make you happy if something goes wrong to make it right by the consumer. Never judge a book until you have read it all. 
Cheers!
MarsellusWallace
Well-Known Member
Are the 70mm MP stems being sold on PIU the "new and improved" version with the bigger MP and washer holes?
olivianewtonjohn
Well-Known Member
Mouthpiece hole and silicone gasket hole are the same diameter as my short stock mouthpiece. If you really want new latest versions, I would wait awhile for that to trickle into the stores.
Randy Savage
Well-Known Member
big dumb noob here. What's the difference between the older and latest units? Is it worth it to wait? I don't wanna miss out on the PIU deal
olivianewtonjohn
Well-Known Member
Hello big dumb noob
. Jk, everyone starts off as a n00b no worries at all. Unless you came out of the womb knowing this information? In which case scientists need to study you 
.Check out the forum and this thread, full of useful information.
There was a change to the mouthpiece that someone noted a few pages back. Bigger hole for better airflow. This came directly from arizer and was just an order for the short mouthpiece (just became avalible). No clue if this is currently included with arizer air units or if its still the "old" short mouthpiece. The change is very minor and you could easily buy a secondary mouthpiece down the road. For what its worth I have two of the old style and performance is great.
Regarding the unit itself, only difference we have noticed is a battery indicator (vs older units having a low battery warning). I ordered my unit probably like a month ago from PIU and recieved the one with battery indicator.
So in short you should be good. But know that arizer will probably keep making minor changes like they did for the solo models. That unit had an update as late as 2014, 2-3 years after it originally came out.
Vapormatic
Well-Known Member
OF
Well-Known Member
Cool by me (to make a bad pun). I too suspect it will heat faster empty, and also think that would support my theory......the 'extra heat' went somewhere, I maintain to heating the load. It would take longer since it also has to heat the glass and load, much harder than simply heating the air that's occupying that space. It might also not be as much a difference as you might think since blocking the top will prevent convection losses there (that will have to 'be made up' to make temperature).
I think it all comes down to classical thermodynamics. You need to transfer a lot of energy (to avoid the confusing term 'heat') into the load to make vapor. To sustain production you need a constant flow or the temperature will drop. That flow rate, in a convection system is easy to measure/calculate. You measure the 'delta' (change in temperature in degrees) then multiply it by the "specific heat" (how much heat needed to change a fixed mass a given number of degrees in that material and the total mass involved. That gives you the energy transferred in calories typically. The standard here is the calorie (in the metric system, it's the BTU in the real measurement system), the heat needed to raise a gram of water one degree (C). The problem in Solo is there is no delta. The temperature of the heated gas doesn't drop in the load. It cannot, by definition, be bringing any "heat" (useful energy increase) to the load. No work (evaporating THC) is done that way therefore?
Put another way, if "heat flows from hot to cold" it doesn't flow if there is no difference in temperature (no hot or cold in a relative way). The load is heating the incoming air exactly as much as the incoming air is heating the load since the air enters and leaves the load at basically the same temperature (unlike say Cera LL where the delta is several hundred degrees minimum).
Not that how it's made is really important when it comes down to how well that vapor is made?
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