pakalolo

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LOL! Not sure about that hahaha! The battery is just a regular 18650 and you can easily find them for 10$ or less on EBAY. If you go to a vape shop though you'll probably pay more. It's the same type of battery that a lot of the new e-cigs are using now. You can find them all over.

Arizer claims that they have a custom battery. The nature of the Li-ion battery business makes this entirely possible. There are plenty of custom batteries out there. That doesn't mean other batteries won't work, but Arizer could have tailored a battery optimized to the Air. Haze Technologies did this for their vapourizer, for example.
 
Arizer claims that they have a custom battery. The nature of the Li-ion battery business makes this entirely possible. There are plenty of custom batteries out there. That doesn't mean other batteries won't work, but Arizer could have tailored a battery optimized to the Air. Haze Technologies did this for their vapourizer, for example.

Thanks! I just went to their website and they only say it's a high quality Li-ion battery. I really hope I can just use the regular ones but I don't want to mess it up. I might just order replacements from there just to be safe, there a few dollars more but...might be worth it not to have to worry about it. With only one battery, I can only use it for an hour out of three because it takes 2+ hours to charge. I'm not a huge fan of standing by the plug either so I really want to get a few extras.
 

SlightlyStonedSD

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I have an extra battery but It's a pain having to charge them both up in the unit. I'll probably get one more spare and the external charger.

Is there any more info about the $45 Arizer charger or are most people going for the Nitecore charger?
 
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valence

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I have an extra battery but It's a pain having to charge them both up in the unit. I'll probably get one more spare and the external charger.

Is there any more info about the $45 Arizer charger or are most people going for the Nitecore charger?

I know that OF and some others have stated that the official charger is the only 100% safe one but for $30 less I went with the nitecore based on it's reputation as a safe and intelligent charger. Someone else found a charger that at least cosmetically looks identical to Arizers "official" one but was less than $10 so I think there is possibly a huge markup on the official one.

While I'm sure that there is some risk with using a third party device, I feel comfortable with it. My extra batteries are still on the way so I can't comment directly on it yet.
 

SlightlyStonedSD

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I know that OF and some others have stated that the official charger is the only 100% safe one but for $30 less I went with the nitecore based on it's reputation as a safe and intelligent charger. Someone else found a charger that at least cosmetically looks identical to Arizers "official" one but was less than $10 so I think there is possibly a huge markup on the official one.

While I'm sure that there is some risk with using a third party device, I feel comfortable with it. My extra batteries are still on the way so I can't comment directly on it yet.

The price is just SO much cheaper it seems worth a shot. Especially since we are really just risking an $18 battery and not the $200+ unit itself. I say that as someone who knows very little technical information about batteries and power supplies..

I guess I'm still holding out to hear a success story or two. You say you've been using the Nitecore with no short-term problems?
 
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Custom Flower Hardware

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The price is just SO much cheaper it seems worth a shot. Especially since we are really just risking an $18 battery and not the $200+ unit itself. I say that as someone who knows very little technical information about batteries and power supplies..

I guess I'm still holding out to hear a success story or two. You say you've been using the Nitecore with no short-term problems?
i use the tenergy dual charger and charge my air and inh batteries simultaneously. Then i throw my cera and luna batteries on there it doesnt skip a beat. Ive never even used the air charger yet. Swapping is just too easy:)
 

shawn0223

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Has anyone cleaned out their air yet? I've got a few stains building up from the few times ididnt ppackdown the bowl enough and some herb got cooked directly on the heater. I know i read using a qtip with some alcohol but idk what's underneath and don't wanna risk any dripping down those little holes.
 
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Justpassedu

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Has anyone cleaned out their air yet? I've got a few stains building up from the few times ididnt ppackdown the bowl enough and some herb got cooked directly on the heater. I know i read using a qtip with some alcohol but idk what's underneath and don't wanna risk any dripping down those little holes.
ThAts about the only way I know how to do it. Just use the tiniest drop of alchohol so there is nothing that can drip. Dip the q tip in alchohol and than squeeze it out with your fingers until it's just moist . Than clean and keep repeating until it's fully clean. You may have to use a few q tips . Oh and it also helps if the heater is slightly wArm. So I'd say about 2-5 minutes after you shut the unit off from a session. Def do not clean while it's on though.
 
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BuzzDanklin

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I made this for a fellow on reddit who was asking about the size difference in the pax/air

pax-vs-air-comparison.jpg
 

Sinclue

OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
How do they figure taxes and when does the exchange rate takes place? Sorry I have not ordered anything from CA.

No taxes as it is coming to USA (I presume). Invoice will show CAD total, but if you pay with a Credit Card the CC company does the conversion automatically from CAD to USD and will post the USD amount on your account (doesn't hurt to make sure), but sometimes it doesn't show up for a couple of days. I've had stuff arrive from Canada to California before it posted on my CC account.

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OF

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There is more risk using the charger that Arizer is selling imo. It is available elsewhere on the web for $7 and change. The construction is also very cheap. You are much better off using a quality known product like the nitecore i4 or i2. :2c:

While I get opinions and all, I don't think the 'justification' here is all that solid. There are two models of a charger that looks (very?) similar in photographs identified by Pipes. Two that look very much alike and differ in at least one very important feature, final voltage. One pretty typical, one very different and potentially very bad on some cells ("batteries"). Fatal even and it carries the warning "This charger is designed for 4.35V capable lithium ion batteries. Before charging, verify that your battery allows 4.35V maximum voltage."

Which is it we're so sure is the one the factory uses based on physical appearance:
https://www.fasttech.com/product/1137400
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1421/10000969/1285301

IMO there's every reason to think this is the very sort of charger they might seek out looking for longest possible battery life (remember I found abnormally high termination voltage on my unit (very small sample size......), not 4.35, but 4.25.

Until we get more information I don't think it's accurate to say 'we know what charger it is', in fact one of the two we (collectively) think it might be is quite special.

I get it that guys want to use something cheaper, and I think it's most likely safe to use typical Li-ion chargers, IIRC Nitecore chargers were mentioned as having failed to detect full charge? This would not be a big deal in protected calls (like we don't have) but could prove very serious (think venting and fire) for an unprotected cell like we're using here. A level of safety has been removed (internal to the cell), this is a poor time to recommend a charger that might fail in that way and create 'the perfect storm'.

Hopefully Pipes or Centizen will resolve this for us. Maybe someone who gets the factory one can supply us with the nameplate details (or a photo better still). Until then I personally am sticking to the internal charger and recommending the same.

I think there's every reason to be cautious until we know why the maker made the statements he did, and I don't think it's at all proper to offer each other advice that contradicts that warning unless we also include that important detail in the discussion. It could go past 'bad advice' into the dangerous/destructive end of the pool. I'm sure none of us wants any part of causing another of the white hats grief?

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Slow Draw McGraw

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I just saw "vapelifewill" on YouTube with his review of the Arizer Air. Something about his reviews I don't like. Hes always too damn medicated or something? Does anyone take his reviews seriously?

Sorry just a comment regarding Arizer Air reviews.
 

Slow Draw McGraw

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ive seen some of his reviews. he does alright explaining most stuff. but i notice hes usally looking for clouds so only sets the vape to the highest setting. always sounds like he has a cold to.
Pretty sure he's allergic to Material. Yes he is a cloud chaser. The Arizer Air's low settings are what make it great. Any company can produce a vape that roasts it at high temps, but how well it performs on low temps is a tell of how versatile it truly can be.
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Most folks come to FC for advice about vaporizers and join in on the conversation. It's reckless for people to be advising batteries and charging stations without knowing if it can potentially harm our vaporizers.

I want to thank @OF for helping to advise FCers and others just reading through the threads. I don't know very much about batteries. If not for folks like @Pipes, @CentiZen and @OF I would be out buying these batteries and battery charging stations potentially harming my $200 investment.

I just wish folks would slow down and be careful when advising on FC. Maybe it will turn out that these accessories will work fine? We don't know yet. Wait to advise until everyone knows for sure. Just my opinion.
 
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