The Arizer Air
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Arizer units are the easiest to load. You can separate the bowl from the unit. From there, you can insert the bowl like a scooper in your grinder and get a perfectly packed bowl without spilling. The ease of loading the bowl and overall bowl design is better than any vape out there imo.
If you take a close up pic like that of any vape, it will show loose material.
One thing I don't see anyone doing including that first Air video posted a few pgs back: You have to wipe the outside surface of the bowl before inserting it on the heater. It takes literally two seconds, just swipe your index finger & thumb around the rim of the stem. Especially if you are dipping stems in your grinder, the outside rim of the bowl will have herb/kief built up and will cause extra build up around and above the heater.
If you take a close up pic like that of any vape, it will show loose material.
One thing I don't see anyone doing including that first Air video posted a few pgs back: You have to wipe the outside surface of the bowl before inserting it on the heater. It takes literally two seconds, just swipe your index finger & thumb around the rim of the stem. Especially if you are dipping stems in your grinder, the outside rim of the bowl will have herb/kief built up and will cause extra build up around and above the heater.
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Has anyone tested to see if LG HE2 or the Samsung 25R 18650's work in these? I know that the battery that comes with is unprotected, and the 2 brands mentioned above are some of the most popular 18650 batteries in use by all the E cig guys. I would definitely like to invest in these batteries in stead of the Arizer batteries which seem to be marked up much higher than your standard 18650's
stickstones
Vapor concierge
Yep, the manual states you can use unit while it is plugged into AC. Not sure how to test whether it's true passthrough or not (removing battery then attempting to use it?)
I would want both. Sometimes in a car you never want to trust how many volts or amps you are getting, so having a battery is like a UPS. But at home, when I have a known good power source, it would be nice to give the battery a break.
I would want both. Sometimes in a car you never want to trust how many volts or amps you are getting, so having a battery is like a UPS. But at home, when I have a known good power source, it would be nice to give the battery a break.
If it has pass through it would be awesome, you could use it like a log vape through glass and just unplug it when you run out the door.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
That's what I'm thinking. If it works well enough, it could be a desktop that just unplugs into your pocket! Something like that would satisfy a LOT of users that aren't in need of the big hits so many of us chase around here.
@Nytron - thanks for the clarification...good to know we can use it while plugged in! Centizen is a battery guru and should be able to tell us if it is truly passing through.
$unnyblaq
mist-or-vapor
It will sure become a huge success especially when the prices drop a bit. But best portable in the market? You haven't tried a Crafty yet, have you?
I have I just choose not to speak negative on things. But I know for a fact the crafty is not the best portable on the market. I'll choose a glass airway versus high grade plastic any day.
OF
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Excellent news, thanks. We were told somewhere that would be fatal, five Volts only.
For USB use that means a one Amp limit, meaning five Watts maximum......maybe 1/3 of what Solo uses? Even a two or 3 Amp wall wart wouldn't cut it I think, it's gonna need a battery. A USB level of drive just isn't a Power Adapter as we know it in Solo. Not a deal breaker for most I'd think, you can work around it.
I wonder if it's using the same bitty plug Pinnacle uses, it's basically the same deal (USB charging a single cell).
Thanks again for the word on the connectors.
I'd be a little careful here, isn't that black bit at the end of the airway plastic?
OF
It's simultaneous charge/discharge. You can set the temperature while it is plugged in but it refuses to heat until you put in a battery. Really, there was no hope of a passthru without a much larger charger, this one is rated at 1.2A.
As well, the only battery indicators are that the charge light will go red to tell you the battery is getting low.
As well, the only battery indicators are that the charge light will go red to tell you the battery is getting low.
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I have to say my favorite thing about the air. As soon as you get to temp you can pull giant fat clouds. Not at all like the solo where you have to wait for heat to soak in more.
I still haven't tested if it can do pass thru without a battery in but if it can i need to find a 5v adapter for the car
I could whip up a few double USB to Air power connectors. Use two low power USB to get the same power as the wall charger or the power from two 1.2a ports to push more juice into it if it can take it? It won't take more than 1a to charge it though will it?
I still haven't tested if it can do pass thru without a battery in but if it can i need to find a 5v adapter for the car
I could whip up a few double USB to Air power connectors. Use two low power USB to get the same power as the wall charger or the power from two 1.2a ports to push more juice into it if it can take it? It won't take more than 1a to charge it though will it?
Lets_Vape
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Centizen mentioned that the wall wart was rated at 1.2A above, why would you need 2 USB connectors?
Even most battery packs have a 2.1a USB port on them for tablets nowadays
If it is indeed 5V 1.2a I imagine any USB car adapter over 1.2a would work? Excessive amperage shouldn't be a problem as far as I'm aware
I wonder if a dedicated 18650 charger would be quicker than charging the battery in the device though
Okay, doing first bowl as I speak. Started it on 5/5 temp and kept it there for two cycles.
Awesome amount of heat, equivalent to Solo for sure. I allowed the unit to heatsoak for ~10 mins like the instruction manual encourages. Without letting it cool down, I loaded a half bowl. Excellent clouds right away, the thing motherfucking rips. The stem is almost too hot to remove, a problem I never had with Solo. (edit: nvm, found easy workaround. You just have to grab the glass as close to the mouthpiece end as possible. If they used the heat tape from the Extreme cyclone bowl, this would be a non-issue.)
So yeah, best vape I've ever used. It is debadged and stealthy as any vape I've seen. It is way smaller than I thought. The fit with the stem on mine is PERFECT. Not too tight, not too loose. When you go to insert the stem into the heating chamber, allow the glass to just make contact for a moment to heat up. You can then gently push and barely turn the stem to glide it into the heating chamber. My old M107 had a fit like this, just utterly perfect. Not too tight, but tight enough to support weight of unit if I were to try.
Only a couple minor negatives:
For me, the mouthpiece will probably have to go. The mouthpiece is great for noobies because it is like a speed limiter on a car. You cannot go too fast which will cause the heater to be overwhelmed and cooled down. I am a control freak and want complete control of my draw rate. I also use the vacuum method after stirring the bowl, which isn't possible with the restrictive mouthpiece. This method of course allows you to instantly and evenly load your bowl in 2 seconds by just sucking through the stem super hard. All in all though, for most people and especially those new to vaping, the mouthpiece is fine and actually a good thing. I love how it is threaded on with vial threads. The stir tool fits perfectly in the mouthpiece hole, cleaning it in one poke. Expect many different style mouthpieces; i.e. ones with no restrictior, ones with bigger holes, ones with multiple holes, ...
I am still getting a lot of herb passing through the 4 holes just like my Solos. I am using a 1.75" mendo vape grinder and I always stir my bowls once which pulverizes the herb for full extraction. The new Air stem and it's mouthpiece will catch most of the loose particles, unlike the Solo. PV "Turbo" style bowl (one big opening vs. 4 holes) with a screen is still the best possible setup, giving you complete control and less loose particles in stem. If you stir, you will want the screen. If not, you are fine.
The entire exterior of unit appears to be aluminum, except maybe the top of the unit near the heating element which appears to be a glossy finish. I hope it isn't plastic. Mine had microscratches in it, only noticeable if you zoom in using computer, hardly visible to human eye.
Cliffnotes: New daily driver. This vaporizer is as efficient as any vaporizer I've used. It gets herb darker than a HI on stock wall charger in less time. Heater seems to be just as effective as a Solo. This is the main test I wanted it to pass and it does with flying colors.
Awesome amount of heat, equivalent to Solo for sure. I allowed the unit to heatsoak for ~10 mins like the instruction manual encourages. Without letting it cool down, I loaded a half bowl. Excellent clouds right away, the thing motherfucking rips. The stem is almost too hot to remove, a problem I never had with Solo. (edit: nvm, found easy workaround. You just have to grab the glass as close to the mouthpiece end as possible. If they used the heat tape from the Extreme cyclone bowl, this would be a non-issue.)
So yeah, best vape I've ever used. It is debadged and stealthy as any vape I've seen. It is way smaller than I thought. The fit with the stem on mine is PERFECT. Not too tight, not too loose. When you go to insert the stem into the heating chamber, allow the glass to just make contact for a moment to heat up. You can then gently push and barely turn the stem to glide it into the heating chamber. My old M107 had a fit like this, just utterly perfect. Not too tight, but tight enough to support weight of unit if I were to try.
Only a couple minor negatives:
For me, the mouthpiece will probably have to go. The mouthpiece is great for noobies because it is like a speed limiter on a car. You cannot go too fast which will cause the heater to be overwhelmed and cooled down. I am a control freak and want complete control of my draw rate. I also use the vacuum method after stirring the bowl, which isn't possible with the restrictive mouthpiece. This method of course allows you to instantly and evenly load your bowl in 2 seconds by just sucking through the stem super hard. All in all though, for most people and especially those new to vaping, the mouthpiece is fine and actually a good thing. I love how it is threaded on with vial threads. The stir tool fits perfectly in the mouthpiece hole, cleaning it in one poke. Expect many different style mouthpieces; i.e. ones with no restrictior, ones with bigger holes, ones with multiple holes, ...
I am still getting a lot of herb passing through the 4 holes just like my Solos. I am using a 1.75" mendo vape grinder and I always stir my bowls once which pulverizes the herb for full extraction. The new Air stem and it's mouthpiece will catch most of the loose particles, unlike the Solo. PV "Turbo" style bowl (one big opening vs. 4 holes) with a screen is still the best possible setup, giving you complete control and less loose particles in stem. If you stir, you will want the screen. If not, you are fine.
The entire exterior of unit appears to be aluminum, except maybe the top of the unit near the heating element which appears to be a glossy finish. I hope it isn't plastic. Mine had microscratches in it, only noticeable if you zoom in using computer, hardly visible to human eye.
Cliffnotes: New daily driver. This vaporizer is as efficient as any vaporizer I've used. It gets herb darker than a HI on stock wall charger in less time. Heater seems to be just as effective as a Solo. This is the main test I wanted it to pass and it does with flying colors.
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Just got it and im impressed. Solo in a pint sized package, hence, "Solowinski" give my take after work tonight. 
give my take after work tonight. 
akwardsauce
gold all in my chains...dont believe me just watch
its so funny...i remember before i got the solo, i didn't really know the size (despite the hundreds of pics i already saw)...i knew that everyone compared it to a redbull can, but when i saw it, i was SHOCKED by how tiny it was!
then i sure I'm going to have that same feeling again when i see how truly small this AIR is in real life!
i ordered on cyber monday and i haven't paid any attention to any shipping/tracking details...i already know its on its way and want to be surprised when it actually gets here...if its not here in 1.5 weeks, then ill have to do some sherlock homes-ing
so do those white condoms come by default or did you guys pay the extra $10 for them?
then i sure I'm going to have that same feeling again when i see how truly small this AIR is in real life!
i ordered on cyber monday and i haven't paid any attention to any shipping/tracking details...i already know its on its way and want to be surprised when it actually gets here...if its not here in 1.5 weeks, then ill have to do some sherlock homes-ing
so do those white condoms come by default or did you guys pay the extra $10 for them?
The white condoms come standard. I kinda regret not ordering one of the coloured ones though.
Hopefully this gives you a better idea of how big the Air is. That's my old iPhone 4. The unit with the shortest tube on it is only about an inch taller than my iPhone 6 Plus.
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Those skins cover the top vents of the air so the top gets very hot. I am only gonna use it in cool weather. Does the skin affect airflow? Can someone verify
The skins do not cover the small top vents, which can be barely seen in the above picture. The sleeve does cover the side grill, obviously. The side grill does afford some airflow, you can test this by blocking the grill with your fingers and then unblocking it (the sound of the air moving changes). So blocking the sidegrill lessens airflow, but not that much since the top vents will stay unblocked.Those skins cover the top vents of the air so the top gets very hot. I am only gonna use it in cool weather. Does the skin affect airflow? Can someone verify
The clear protective silicone sleeve that is included with the unit is more white than clear. I too regret not buying a black sleeve.
The grill is probably there to prevent the unit from heatsoaking and being uncomfortably warm to the touch when doing 2 or more sessions in a row. With the sleeve installed which is made of silicone, it won't matter how hot the unit gets it will still be comfortable to hold. I will use the sleeve when out ice fishing.
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yea it was 65 here today! Skinless
This Air seems very slick. Looks just like one of those e-juice vapes.
I really wonder how the Air stacks up against Crafty/Mighty. The S&B vapes are twice as much but they are both in the same category.
I really wonder how the Air stacks up against Crafty/Mighty. The S&B vapes are twice as much but they are both in the same category.
