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mist-or-vapor
I see another 1000 page in the not so distant future. Vas is a mofo I just got two VM and this beauty comes out. I will get my hands on this device after its been out for a bit longer. Hats off to arizer it looks like you guys STILL have the best portable on the market kudos.
 

snorcan

Stay charged, my friends
I pulled the trigger on a black air at the midnight hour...oh yeah!

Gonna give my solo to a friend in need. I read earlier on this post that it looks like the Air comes with an O type ring pre-installed similar to the ones that come with the Planet Vape high efficiency stems. So I'm wondering, if I should leave my planet Vape orange O ring in the solo when I give it, or if I should take it out...

Unfortunately it looks like the corners of the base all cracked when I installed that O ring, and I hope that by taking the solo apart again, that the corners don't break right off.

Can anyone confirm whether the Air will need the extra O ring for the high efficiency stem? Maybe I will not need the extra stem at all....
 

exit

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I think counting your button pushes would work, no matter what pressing up or down always selects the next temp setting, just like on the solo, so you could always click it all the way up/down and then to wherever you want to go.

I don't think it will be that much of a pain but then again I am very far from colorblind. So I can't speak to that, but I do think white looks like pink and orange looks like white depending on angle

@snorcan I actually think it has an o-ring style thingy built in. Couldn't find a way to get the top off but I don't see any need to add a ring to these.
 

thesoloman

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i got mine raw (no condoms). with the whole temp/light situation (for the colorblind, or when its tough to distinguish), i think maybe the best thing to do is just count how many times you press the up or down button...thats what i plan on doing, but obviously i don't have mine yet so i don't know how much of a pain it is gonna be in real life.

I also count the button presses, old solo habits die hard.

Great vids, @thesoloman ! I love how you kept it time period specific by wearing the viking hat and rocking the blackberry...I felt like I was being transported back to the 800's!

In the second one I kept wanting to turn on the shower. :lol: But seriously, good stuff...I'm a fan!

Couple of quick thoughts...

- Does it have a notch on it to keep it from rolling around when the cover is in place without the mouthpiece inserted?
- Do you think the mouthpiece is there more for restriction or to be cool on the lips?

If the glass doesn't get too hot, can you rip it without the black mouthpiece and really huff on it (and still get clouds)? Arizer usually tries to regulate the draw speed for maximum vapor production through restrictions, while other manufacturers like to give us the option of hitting it too hard and fucking up the experience.

I figure if the mouthpiece is there for restriction, then we can't huff on it and get thick results. If it's there for keeping the lips cool, we ought to be able to open it up and hit it hard with thick results. If it serves a dual purpose then Arizer probably got it right and I won't need to fuck with it.
1, It does not have a notch to prevent rolling, it rolls like a wheel.
2, I think it serves both, mainly cooling, inside the mouthpiece is a flat silicone washer with a small hole in it, i think the washer adds some restriction, it is also easily removable. I removed the mouthpiece, and it was defiantly warm when using the vial threads as a mouthpiece.
The mouthpiece does make everything cooler.
I am usually anti-plastic, but i feel like the design of this mouthpiece is good enough that the plastic would not be over heated, and become a concern.
I know that we could easily design other mouthpiece options, without plastic. MAYBE a wood mouthpiece, or gong?
Has anyone tried the old solo stems with the air yet?

Edit: more specifically a gong?
OLD turbo stem yes, i liked it, good airflow, and i think it looked cool with such a large stem on a small vape.

@Soloman- Can I come over and use the bathroom?!;)

MAYBEE;P

I still think we need to organize a community FC meetup, soon.


EDIT: also no need for any o-rings here.

 
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Vaporcussion

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Was thinking the same and I'm even considering getting a foam cover for ultimate stealth when in my bag: :p
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Ha! That's a fantastic idea. I wonder if it would fit in a mic clip? You could have a "second mic" on stage, ready to go....
 

OF

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I actually think it has an o-ring style thingy built in. Couldn't find a way to get the top off but I don't see any need to add a ring to these.

Have you ever seen a Solo? It too has "an o-ring style thingy built in". Which is usually quite tight when new but loosens up over time (several dozen loads?). Nobody thought of putting an o-ring in a new one.....

My guess it it uses the same seal ('o-ring like thing') as Solo since it uses the same oven parts? I think the top cover has be redone so it no longer sticks out.

Time will sort these things out I think.

OF
 

natural farmer

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I see another 1000 page in the not so distant future. Vas is a mofo I just got two VM and this beauty comes out. I will get my hands on this device after its been out for a bit longer. Hats off to arizer it looks like you guys STILL have the best portable on the market kudos.
It will sure become a huge success especially when the prices drop a bit. But best portable in the market? You haven't tried a Crafty yet, have you? :p
 

exit

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Have you ever seen a Solo? It too has "an o-ring style thingy built in". Which is usually quite tight when new but loosens up over time (several dozen loads?).

OF

You're talking about the Teflon ring, though. I'm referring to the aftermarket ones people put on top of -those-, like the red ones that come with PVHES or sold on PIU. The 144 seals I believe they're called? It seems as if the air has something similar built in, is what I was trying to say
 

OF

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You're talking about the Teflon ring, though. I'm referring to the aftermarket ones people put on top of -those-, like the red ones that come with PVHES or sold on PIU. The 144 seals I believe they're called? It seems as if the air has something similar built in, is what I was trying to say

So you've seen the Solo seal and this is different? Interesting.

I don't think it's Teflon, it's way too hard for that I think. The seal in HA is Teflon, for instance. It might be heavily glass filled I guess but it doesn't 'feel like it' to me. And the ring number in question started out as 113 and ended up 112. And I don't think I'm confused (even if I'm not explaining well.....), care to hazard a guess on who came up with it?
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/arizer-solo.3833/page-520#post-362296

Same guy that gave them to about 65 of our fellow members a while back:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/arizer-solo.3833/page-566#post-379552

OF
 
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tdriver

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Ok, so my biggest problem with the LEDs is that orange looks too much like white and white looks more like almost pink. And as long as the white blinking on the top light when it's plugged in post-session means it's still charging I think I have the lights figured out.

Sometime while charging and heating simultaneously the bottom one will blink light blue but nothing else. It goes solid blue to let you know it's hitting time though.

If you are really colorblind and all the colors kind of blur together, you would be able to tell what's going on by the tempo of the bottom light anyway. The biggest trick might be figuring how to remember which was white and which was orange.

is there any battery indication ?
 
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exit

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is there any battery indication ?

If there is I am not sure what it is yet.
According to the manual it's just solid red for low and solid green for full.

@OF This picture is not very good, but there is something of a softer material more akin to the 112/113 seals in there, and I noticed the first time I tried to put a stem in it felt "softer" as if a rubber ring of that kind was built in. IMO a very nice touch and something i wondered if arizer would address in a future model.

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natural farmer

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I would prefer a sleek, slim Air to a 21st Century military-grade-grenade-look-alike in public, please.

I actually prefer this (that's a Crafty inside mind you, sorry for the orientation…) :

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But nevertheless, stealthiness doesn't make a portable "best in the market"… Personal preferences do! What's best for you might be worst for me.

The Air looks very sexy by the way!
 

Nytron

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Just got mine in the mail. The tracking details were not updated in time (still doesn't even say delivered yet), so make sure you are home for the delivery confirmation. It beat the ETA by two days.

The top grill does not seem to want to unscrew. There is resistance and a clicking feel when you turn it. Not gonna try to take it apart right now, I will leave that for someone else.

First impressions while I wait for the unit to warm up from freezing temps:
- Super super small. Way small than I thought. It seems impossible that it is taller than a solo.
- All aluminum exterior except maybe for the very top near bowl (glossier paint, looks like plastic?).
- Heater & bowl design is nearly identical to Solo, so operation will be the same as a Solo.
- The mouthpieces are threaded on with a vial thread. This will make cleaning harder, but easy to remove mouthpieces.
- Screen might be truly optional. The size of the 4 holes in the stem is much smaller than the 4 holes of an Arizer solo stem (M107). Add that to the restrictor hole on mouthpiece and one may not need to deal with screens.
- The diameter of the charger plug seems to be a bit smaller with the Air vs. Solo, so no hope of Solo wall/travel charger working with Air.

My unit did not include a sticker with the color options (Black, silver, titanium). My unit included: a first time use warning, instruction manual, metal stir tool, two different length stems, potpourri dish, wall charger, wild flowers, white silicone protective skin, and carrying case.
 
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photobooth

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Yeah there is no need for a filling funnel for the Air or the Solo, the herb is loaded into the glass stem and then insterted, not directly into the metal heater.

If you are still worried and want to prevent particles from falling into the heater, use a second screen to hold the herb in the stem.
 
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