The Arizer Air

[OF]

So I just bought an Air which I LOVE (except for the tightness of the stem; as the instructions say, the unit really needs to be warm before it can be inserted or removed.)

Shit, guess I'm just an Arizer Fanboy.

Funny isn't it, some guys love Air for just that reason (death grip on the stem). "Takes all kinds to make a horse race" as the saying goes?

I've found some stems are harder to fit than others. Usually the problem is they are out of round to some extent as well. You can feel it even rolling the stem in your finger tips and 'feeling' the mouth of the bowl. Even a few thousandths, hard to feel, can make an individual stem easier to insert 'one way' than another (that is with a different part 'started in first'). Usually it gives you a 'high spot' or two on the mouth, stems that are 'dead round' seem to fit easier I think.

And of course there are smaller stems (easier to fit) and the seals will wear in some, though they won't the single one in Solo does (I suspect that is part of the design in Solo?). I have a 70mm Air stem that has fit all the Airs I've tried (4?). After some (enjoyable) use, other stems were easier to deal with. Until then you know the drill.....

And not to worry about that Arizer fan thing. If you look around you'll notice you're not alone.........

Regards to all on a rainy Saturday morning.

OF

 

[BigJr48]

@zeebudz, @OF plantvape.ca sell stems for the Air/Solo that provide great airflow.

 

[OF]

@zeebudz, @OF plantvape.ca sell stems for the Air/Solo that provide great airflow.

Yep, sure do. PVHES, discussed here 'bouts a fair bit. 200 'hits' searching for "PVHES" on this thread alone, no doubt more on Solo? And they come at a couple of levels (including 'turbo' with the partition punched out). Also WTAs with and without vents. All guys interested should try them, IMO. I think, however, it's safe to say that most of us who did came back to factory stems?

They're probably more useful with Air since Air doesn't allow you to tip the stem to control flow.

You need to remember, however, they are not magic. Less restriction doesn't mean bigger clouds, just less restriction and, ironically, less dense clouds. Less dense. This is a conduction vape, air pulled in is cold and actually robs heat that would otherwise make vapor (less pounds of THC delivered per minute). It is more dilute, but easier to get to? Since heat has to be conducted in so fast, vapor can only be made up to the rate that is determined by that flow. Any calories taken to heat the incoming air subtracts from that production.

Watch 'the pros' when the "milk" or "chalk" a WT full of lovely, very dense, vapor. Notice they draw very slowly, no faster that vapor can be produced to do this? Then dump the contents in one big hit. Now you know why.......

Thanks for the tip, but PVHES has been with us a while, some really like them, most I think came to pass on the idea for one reason or another.

OF

 

[RUDE BOY]

Does anyone here know if it's possible to get one of the air/solo bubbler mouthpieces and Black stems they sell at VapoShop.com here in the U.S.A. since VapoShop doesn't ship here at this time? (makes one wonder why they show the price in $ USD when you can't get it shipped here.)

I've searched as much as I can online and can't find another source for these stems.

Thanx.

 

[CarolKing]

@RUDE BOY This is from @PlanetVape. Kinda spendy. Maybe DHgate has a knock off. Even a Pinnacle Pro Micro shower knock off water tube. @OF had a little glass tool that he used a while back.


Nibbler X Micro Bubbler
$118.99


Edit
I don't have a nibbler.

 

[RUDE BOY]

Thanks for the reply @CarolKing, but I was really looking for one of the bubbler stems to keep it all one piece so as to make transport easier.

How does the nibbler x attach to the Air?

 

[BigJr48]

Yep, sure do. PVHES, discussed here 'bouts a fair bit. 200 'hits' searching for "PVHES" on this thread alone, no doubt more on Solo? And they come at a couple of levels (including 'turbo' with the partition punched out). Also WTAs with and without vents. All guys interested should try them, IMO. I think, however, it's safe to say that most of us who did came back to factory stems?

They're probably more useful with Air since Air doesn't allow you to tip the stem to control flow.

You need to remember, however, they are not magic. Less restriction doesn't mean bigger clouds, just less restriction and, ironically, less dense clouds. Less dense. This is a conduction vape, air pulled in is cold and actually robs heat that would otherwise make vapor (less pounds of THC delivered per minute). It is more dilute, but easier to get to? Since heat has to be conducted in so fast, vapor can only be made up to the rate that is determined by that flow. Any calories taken to heat the incoming air subtracts from that production.

Watch 'the pros' when the "milk" or "chalk" a WT full of lovely, very dense, vapor. Notice they draw very slowly, no faster that vapor can be produced to do this? Then dump the contents in one big hit. Now you know why.......

Thanks for the tip, but PVHES has been with us a while, some really like them, most I think came to pass on the idea for one reason or another.

OF

I enjoy these stems better than stock because they're easier on the throat and besides I enjoy more of a flavored hit than a huge milky cloud.

 

[zeebudz]

@zeebudz, @OF plantvape.ca sell stems for the Air/Solo that provide great airflow.

Thanks BigJr48 (typo though, planetvape.ca). Interesting how the fit on the Air is completely different than my Solo. The stem in the Solo fits quite loosely while the Air is super tight. But neither has given me any problem with draw or airflow.

 

[BigJr48]

Thanks BigJr48 (typo though, planetvape.ca). Interesting how the fit on the Air is completely different than my Solo. The stem in the Solo fits quite loosely while the Air is super tight. But neither has given me any problem with draw or airflow.

The stems fit perfect on the Air it also comes with a O'ring for the Solo along with instructions. You can buy a pack of screens for the stem and extra O'ring.

 

[GetLeft]

Thanks BigJr48 (typo though, planetvape.ca). Interesting how the fit on the Air is completely different than my Solo. The stem in the Solo fits quite loosely while the Air is super tight. But neither has given me any problem with draw or airflow.

The stems fit perfect on the Air it also comes with a O'ring for the Solo along with instructions. You can buy a pack of screens for the stem and extra O'ring.

I'm as enamored of the Air as the next guy. But there does seem to be anecdotal evidence (mine included) that some recently purchased stems fit too tightly, even some bought directly from Arizer. While it's smart not to let that get too much in the way of enjoying the Air, it's probably ok too to say it if you notice it. That way our friends at Arizer might make some adjustments.

 

[BigJr48]

@GetLeft
Today I received my second PVHES stem and it fits perfect, same as the first on my Air.
The airflow problem has been fixed with the new Solo 2, hopefully a new Air 2 will follow soon with the increased airflow.[/QUOTE]

 

[zeebudz]

The stems fit perfect on the Air it also comes with a O'ring for the Solo along with instructions. You can buy a pack of screens for the stem and extra O'ring.

Ya, it fits nicely. All is well. After I got the feel of inserting the stem into the Air (while cold) I've come to like the tight fit. Guess I was just used to my very loose fitting Solo stems.

 

[geemayn]

hey guys i got my arizer air and its pretty dang nice i gotta say

i noticed though if you hold the power button for a good amount of time both lights will turn white... what is that? im guessing like a developer mode or something?

 

[mag76]

They might, but it's not recommended. Mechanical fit can be an issue, for example. It's mighty tight in there. Not all 18650s even fit, some that do are too long to allow the cap to be screwed fully down (which can cause contact problems, even damaging the spring loaded pin.

And it voids your warranty.

IMO you really only need at most one spare? I have one to support 3 (or 4?) Airs and very seldom use that one. Ten bucks to be sure, I think this is a bad time to get cheap? You can also get a 'power bank' to recharge as needed when away, which is also useful for other tasks? It is a USB chargeable device with a cheap cable you know like this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NQCMRJ6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

Your call, but I have piles of 18650s from various projects around, like I said I bought a spare from PIU and recommend you do likewise. Well, OK, not necessarily from PIU but stick with the 'factory battery', one of the experts on such things, CentiZen, did a lot of testing and research and decided that exact 18650 was the best available for the duty and long life........Arizer made an educated Engineering decision, who'd have thought?

OF

I have now used two of these cables and cannot get them to work. It will charge the battery at first but then, the flashing green light turns to a red flash. I thought at first, it was a bad cable but have tried two with the same result. Any advice? Thanks.

 

[OF]

I have now used two of these cables and cannot get them to work. It will charge the battery at first but then, the flashing green light turns to a res flash. I thought at first, it was a bad cable but have tried two with the same result. Any advice? Thanks.

Interesting. A length problem showed up with another cable (from EBay IIRC) it was a bit too short for reliable contact (Air intentionally tries to block the same size, but shorter, connector used with Solo at 12 Volts, fatal to the Air almost certainly? Here's the photo of that:

On top is the factory charger cord for Air, in the middle is the too short aftermarket one. At the bottom is another cable with a 'doughnut' sliced off the rubber part. Easy to do with a utility knife or razor blade. Slice down to the metal and slip the doughnut off? The tape is to keep the cut square.

Think that might be it? I just dug out what I'm sure is mine from a couple years ago (it still works....). I've been using a white one I got somewhere since it's easier to spot in the pile of loose cables at the charging station. I've given that link out dozens of times, this is the first 'bounce'.....I wonder if something in the cable or Air has changed????

Good luck, please keep us posted?

OF

 

[mag76]

Interesting. A length problem showed up with another cable (from EBay IIRC) it was a bit too short for reliable contact (Air intentionally tries to block the same size, but shorter, connector used with Solo at 12 Volts, fatal to the Air almost certainly? Here's the photo of that:

On top is the factory charger cord for Air, in the middle is the too short aftermarket one. At the bottom is another cable with a 'doughnut' sliced off the rubber part. Easy to do with a utility knife or razor blade. Slice down to the metal and slip the doughnut off? The tape is to keep the cut square.

Think that might be it? I just dug out what I'm sure is mine from a couple years ago (it still works....). I've been using a white one I got somewhere since it's easier to spot in the pile of loose cables at the charging station. I've given that link out dozens of times, this is the first 'bounce'.....I wonder if something in the cable or Air has changed????

Good luck, please keep us posted?

OF

I saw that problem. It felt like it engaged fine stock, but I cut it back as your picture shows. Still same result. I chocked it up to a defective cable, so I ordered a second one. I cut that one down as well with the same result. I ordered from the link you provided. There are reviews in the listing of people having success with their airs.
What does the flashing red light mean on the air? Thanks for the fast response.

 

[OF]

I saw that problem. It felt like it engaged fine stock, but I cut it back as your picture shows. Still same result. I chocked it up to a defective cable, so I ordered a second one. I cut that one down as well with the same result. I ordered from the link you provided. There are reviews in the listing of people having success with their airs.
What does the flashing red light mean on the air? Thanks for the fast response.

Not much to the cable to go wrong except fit on the Air end I think. For sure not two in a row. As long as there's a bit of a gap under the shoulder when plugged in you're Jake.

Not sure about flashing red, generally that's a fault. Maybe the USB voltage is a bit high/low? Have you tried other sources? Maybe a dicey battery or contact????

It charges normally with the provided charger?

TIA

OF

 

[mag76]

Not much to the cable to go wrong except fit on the Air end I think. For sure not two in a row. As long as there's a bit of a gap under the shoulder when plugged in you're Jake.

Not sure about flashing red, generally that's a fault. Maybe the USB voltage is a bit high/low? Have you tried other sources? Maybe a dicey battery or contact????

It charges normally with the provided charger?

TIA

OF

Yea it charges fine with oem charger. Behaves the same with two different oem batteries. Air is only a few months old. I tried a few different usb plugs including oem apple.

 

[RUDE BOY]

I didn't think the air would charge straight off a usb connection. Can it?

 

[OF]

I didn't think the air would charge straight off a usb connection. Can it?

Sure can. At least for all but one of us.....for the time being. Arizer thinks so, too, they'll sell you a cable like this with a 'bargain priced' auto to USB converter at a not so low price:
https://www.puffitup.com/Arizer-Air-Car-Charger-p/arz.air-102_car.htm

I've been using this scheme (USB port) for so long I'm no longer sure where the factory charger is.

Solo is, of course, a different case. It uses 12 Volts not five.

OF

 

[JoeKickass]

Happy 4/20 Everyone!

I went to Golden Gate park in SF and had a great time with my Arizer Air, ran two batteries flat, vaped right in front of at least 8 police!

Even though I was surrounded by huge joints, the Air had the best flavor and blew clouds with the best of them!

I had a great time, there was food, music, and I saw this cool cat:

https://www.facebook.com/events/450268802031884/?active_tab=discussion

 

[debaserrrrr]

I've got an Air coming soon. Where would you guys recommend as a cheap place to grab some screens?

 

[OF]

I've got an Air coming soon. Where would you guys recommend as a cheap place to grab some screens?

Forget cheap (or get 5/8 inch SS ones from EBay if you insist), you really what a few of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200981331675?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

They are thicker material, molded to shape, and the edges are fused so they hold their shape. When fouled hold them by the edge in 'metal fingers' (like that old roach clip you no longer use?) and 'flame them'. That is heat them with a small torch until they glow.

Then brush off the ash and put them back. The same fellow sells larger and smaller quantities, but 10 should outlast the Air......hard as that is to do?

You can put them in 'dome down' for normal volume loads but with the advantage that since the screen doesn't sit against the glass partition (with the glass blocking most of the screen so it fouls very fast) and go a long time between cleanings or 'dome up' which cuts the load size roughly in half (about what most of us need for a single session).

Forget cheap, this is the time to spend a whole dollar for what is a superior product.

OF

 

[debaserrrrr]

Thanks, will do!

 

[BigJr48]

Thanks, will do!

Also pick up a PVHES stem from planetvape.ca for much better airflow.
Highly recommended!!!