peterpiper
(peter-ex-piper)
I agree, would hate to stretch it, as it is i can hold upside down, pick up with the stem etc, would hate it to end up like the solo where it just falls out
The Arizer Air
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stark1
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KidFated.
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I don't think Arizer would even send out replacements, if the did happen to be replaceable :/Oh, boy. hope those rubber O rings are user replaceable....
stark1
Lonesome Planet
Naw.
Here, it translates to Old Friend, helpful in many instances; a bit like Gabby Hayes, at times, but helpful.
Justpassedu
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Well Arizer sells replacement O-rings for the Solo ( or whatever they are called ) , i don't see why they couldn't offer them for the air. I actually have a few from the solo and if i remember correct somewhere in this thread OF has taken his unit apart and replaced them i believe. Don't quote me on that , but someone did take the unit apart and replace the rubber gaskets/o-rings. Mine have def loosened up and using solo stems stretches them out. I don't mind a stem being a bit loose but i just don't want my stems falling out if upside down using with water tools. Arizer states this is normal and the nature of the machine. If we pre heat without the stem inserted and than put the stem in they fit easy if using a solo style stem so that is 1 way to avoid some stretching but not fully, plus i like to pre heat my flowers so that method does not really help me.
I hope they do. My top oring has a little peice missing from putting my crooked PVHE GonG in my Air while the unit was cold.
One of the bowl cuts got caught on it.
Kid Lightning
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Thanks for the heads up on size.
The reason i was going to get the nitecore battery is because im from uk and on vapefiends website they sell nitecore i2 battery charger under the arizer air accessory category for £17 which is nearly half the price of the arizer air official battery charger (£30). Off ebay the nitecore battery was about £14, so i could get a battery and a charger for the price of just the official air charger.
How much bigger were your nitecore batteries compared to the official air battery? At the moment the cheap batteries i have are about 2mm bigger than the factory arizer battery and also have a little nip on the end, im using UltraFire 18650 5000mAh 3.7v li-ion, like i said earlier though, they are quite weak.
KidFated.
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Those are actual o rings, which the solo doesn't actually come with. The air doesn't come with o rings either, but a multi ridged seal thing. Big difference imo
tree master
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Im sure they will come out with a replacement in the future. The air is only a couple of months old, i dont think they thought the seal would get damaged so quickly. i could be wrong.
KidFated.
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With the included stems, I think, that they thought it is a prime system. I don't think they cared about aftermarket stems thb
Batteries with the "little nip on the end" have built in protection and are a little longer. Any protected battery is not physically compatible with the Air. As you have probably read it is not recommended not to use the officially sanctioned Arizer battery but if you do I have used the NCR 18650B or genuine SONY VTC4/VTC5 batteries. The NCR lasts considerably longer than the stock battery. I do take the precaution of replacing the battery as soon as the red light comes on. Looks like they are still at at least 3.3 volts at this point.
I use an Efest V2 charger with a digital display and it seems to work fine.
I am not recommending anything here just saying what I am doing and maybe I am a fool!
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OF
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Careful here, lad. Air needs unprotected cells, protected ones are exactly wrong.....even if they do fit. I get it the official ones are hard to get, but how many do you need? Perhaps buying one or two with the unit will cover it?
The cover is no doubt a custom molded part (different from, but similar to Solo). Unless Arizer sells or gives you one your down to looking for a used one or living without?
Oh, boy. hope those rubber O rings are user replaceable....
What o-rings, there are none......
No, they don't sell replacement o-rings, there still are none in Solo or Air. We invented the aftermarket o-rings, supportive dealers (like PV and PIU) include them, but not Arizer. That could lead to replacing broken tabs if nothing else?
Their stand with Solo is loose stems are normal, I suspect that they'll stick to that with Air.
Yes, I'm the guy that opened his up and reported there are no rings, two seals, the top one of which Arizer might someday consider user replaceable (but not effective at fixing 'loose' fit I think). Getting to the lower (harder) '3 step' seal below requires taking the tiny screws out of the heat shield (and even if you don't loose them they tread into plastic so folks will goof that up). More over, a burr on my heat shield kept it from going back on until some file and emery paper action cleared it. I bet they don't want that grief either?
They may some day offer the upper seal I think, but same as Solo the key seal below needing tools isn't gonna happen. And there's still no o-rings in either unit as designed.
OF
It's a shame Ed's stems do not fit. They would look really nice on the air. Has anyone ever tried to sand down (maybe with a dremmel) an Ed stem to make it fit? I am curious if it would work well since it is steel and not glass.
Vapormatic
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Arizer lists the Air stems for both AA & Solo but the Solo stems are listed only for Solo.Looks like its theirbad for suggesting the larger diameter Solo stems would fit the virgin AA?
Bad misrepresentation, poor AA.
My guess is that they're aware of the issue and have already reduced their stem diameters to reduce stretch factor, here's different diameter measures,
- .574" original 70mm all glass stem,
- .573" original 60mm MP stem
- .568" replacement 60mm MP stem, New & Improved,
- .567" replacement 70mm MP stem,
The seals should be under warranty too, but like different batteries, all bets are off when using Solo, Wong, Gong, PVHES, Vortex or any other stems in The AA.
tree master
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I dont see them not honoring the warrentry because of the stems. I been using a gong in my air and no damage. I heat my unit up before i insert any stem. Plus theres nothing stating you will loose your warrenty for using other stems. Just states about batteries.
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
My new version 60mm's i just got straight from arizer are way tighter in my air than the ones that originally shipped with the air.
OF
Well-Known Member
Nor do I. But, based on the experience with Solo, Arizer doesn't consider a loose stem to be a failure. No doubt part of the decision to not sell the seals, but there it is. I'd think they'll replace a failed seal (like one that broke, tore or came out) but would continue to hold a loose stem still meets their spec?
While on the topic of stems, there's a lot of variation (including out of round) on Solo stems, not so much so on the Air stems I've seen. Also, please remember straight Solo stems came with the first batch (like mine), they cannot be consider taboo in Air for that reason IMO.
OF
Randy Savage
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It came. With a bag of ketchup chips inside
NinjaMindTriks
Ninja Vapor Enthusiast
Yes!!! It has arrived! I also got a bag of ketchup chips and my vortex stem. Very impressed with the feel of it so far, much smaller than I thought it would be. I have the batteries charging now. Will report back with my findings!
Randy Savage
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From what I discerned from my search, the initial charge on this is not as long because it's 1 cell, but I couldn't find if it still needed a long first charge. Do I need to charge it for awhile longer than a normal charge on the first charge ? How long?
Justpassedu
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Nope just charge it to full and start vaping , that's only with the solo everyone recommends going a few hours over the full charge , with the air and the single 18650 cells you are good to go when its charged .