Silver Surfer Vaporizer

[Nevertheless1090]

Hey everybody!

Been doing research on my fair share of vaporizers over the past two months. Currently, I own an iolite and my newest addition is the amazing SSV. It's everything I expected plus more but I have one HUGE problem...

I get humongous rips consistently but I also get bud in my mouth almost each time I hit it (with or without mouthpiece) I don't know If the screen is in the wand properly but it's far from air tight and I've tried 2 different screens. Can someone please help me ASAP so I can enjoy my next session tonight without half my bud I put In the wand in my mouth by the end of my sesh? Thanks peeps and hopefully I'm the dumb one and everybody else doesn't have their herbs in mouth :/

 

[aesthyrian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Lomhls8J4&feature=channel_video_title try that video

 

[TerrorTurkey]

well i have a few ideas..
1. it could be the holes in the screen are too large, and you need finer screens, or stick with 1 and after a few days use it will kinda gum up.
2. maybe the screen is the wrong size and not fitting in right. does it seal nice and tight around that groove to catch the screen? you could try cutting it down to size if its too big.
3. you might try turning the temp down a little bit and drawing slower.

if all else fails i have read about people using a second screen in the tubing near the mouthpiece to catch anything that gets through the first screen.

 

[arkadiy]

I used to have an extreme q but it broke and I got an SSV. So far, I think the extreme q was a much better whip vape. I just can't seem to get hits nearly as good on the SSV. Maybe because it has such a small heater?

 

[Raf007]

You should get even denser hits from your SSV.

Try using the elbow screen from your EQ on top of your wand, pack it, put your SSV at 7 , plug and draw hard if you don't want to combust

 

[FLskwat]

I used to have an extreme q but it broke and I got an SSV. So far, I think the extreme q was a much better whip vape. I just can't seem to get hits nearly as good on the SSV. Maybe because it has such a small heater?

Hmmm, there must be a problem there. I've owned both, just kept the SSV.
Even without the elbow screen mod, the hits from an SSV are hands down thicker then the Q ones!!!
On what position do you start vaping? Usually crank your knob to 12'o clock position, leave it 2 mn. heat, pack your wand with grinded material, to 1/5 of its capacity, no need to tight pack.
Start inhaling, not too slow and moving the wand around the HC hole axis...if you don't get ENORMOUS RIPS something is going wrong!
The knob marking can be slightly different (and modified) from one SSV to another, but when hot you can generally start vaping around 11 o'clock (blue low temp vapor) till 4 o'clock (draw faaaast!). 4 o'clock and more is concentrate field!

Please let us know your results...and the Q screen mod is second step, when your SSV is such a big hitter, you want to make it a little more conservative!

 

[arkadiy]

Hmmm, I never even go to the 12o'clock position. I usually put it on the 3o'clock for 2 - 5min and let it heat up, then turn it down to 10 - 11o'clock.

When I first received it, I would try the 1 - 3o'clock positions but noticed that every once in a while it would combust. I do not want the bowl to ever be able to combust if I am not mistaken.

I was assuming the SSV would have much bigger hits that is why I am so surprised.

 

[wilf789]

You combusted in the 1 - 3 range? I have never heard of that, nor have ever combusted myself with the SSV even when taking a bowl up to about 5 o'clock. Were there actual hot embers still lingering after you'd pulled? The SSV hits so hard when you get it right that it's like a bong

While it's easier to get the hang of than the MFLB for example, you still need to play around with your start/end temperature and your draw-speed, even how you pack the wand, to get better and better results.

The Q screen mod is good if you have only a little bud or are in a hurry to finish, otherwise I'd recommend just using it normally.

 

[FLskwat]

Yes Wilf, if inhaling real slow, like if your SSV was a MF... you will create scorching in the middle of the bowl.
Arkadiy: Please test the 12 o clock setting, do not fill the wand more then 1/3 and drow not to fast/not to slow...and as stated by Wilf, a working SSV will even fill a bonger's lungs in no time!

 

[weedemon]

also the draw speed is important on ssv right? you need to draw air more quickly than normal right? that would also help avoid combustion.

 

[AGBeer]

Yes, I have found that if you draw like you would normally through a combustion pipe, you are about in the ball park.

Also, the position of the knob is subjective to where the knob is physically. One thing that 7th Floor suggests is to play with it until you find your sweet spot. (I can usually tell by the intensity of the glow of my HE) From there, PULL the knob and reset it at high noon. This has helped take the guesswork out of where the best vaping temp is for me. (Oh yeah, and adequate warm up time works wonders too)

 

[wilf789]

I'm worried that I may be combusting without even realising or something now? I used to take my SSV all the way up to full temp eventually, but there still seemed like there was never any embers/ash etc. just dark brown avb.
Nowadays I only go up to about 5, but still it's fine. Sometimes, considering I pack the bowl so full, it's very hard to pull at all, so there's barely any air going through it seems. Although I feel as if I don't have great lung capacity, so my idea of slowly inhaling may be different to most!

 

[arkadiy]

Yes Wilf, if inhaling real slow, like if your SSV was a MF... you will create scorching in the middle of the bowl.
Arkadiy: Please test the 12 o clock setting, do not fill the wand more then 1/3 and drow not to fast/not to slow...and as stated by Wilf, a working SSV will even fill a bonger's lungs in no time!

After everyone started commenting how high they set theres, I started playing with mine. For me 12o'clock is the golden spot. Thank you guys, it is now working MUCH more to my liking.

 

[arkadiy]

I'm worried that I may be combusting without even realising or something now? I used to take my SSV all the way up to full temp eventually, but there still seemed like there was never any embers/ash etc. just dark brown avb.
Nowadays I only go up to about 5, but still it's fine. Sometimes, considering I pack the bowl so full, it's very hard to pull at all, so there's barely any air going through it seems. Although I feel as if I don't have great lung capacity, so my idea of slowly inhaling may be different to most!

Maybe it was only the first unit I had (mine got replaced, first one broke from eBay).

On this unit, not combustion even up to 1o'clock so far. When it combusted, it was obvious. It was SMOKE coming, not vape. The bowl turned red (ember) and was lit. As soon as I stopped pulling, it went out. No ash was in the bowl, but the bud was black. This hasn't happened in a long time, but it scared me from the higher temps.

 

[FLskwat]

Yes Wilf, if inhaling real slow, like if your SSV was a MF... you will create scorching in the middle of the bowl.
Arkadiy: Please test the 12 o clock setting, do not fill the wand more then 1/3 and drow not to fast/not to slow...and as stated by Wilf, a working SSV will even fill a bonger's lungs in no time!

After everyone started commenting how high they set theres, I started playing with mine. For me 12o'clock is the golden spot. Thank you guys, it is now working MUCH more to my liking.

Nice to hear Arkadiy! Hope you will enjoy your functional SSV now and you should discover soon the thick hits it can deliver compared to the Q! And yes, you sould not combust from 12 o'clock to 4 o'clock if you draw to correct speed! If you increase the temp, just increase a little your draw speed too and you should be good!

 

[vapoMonde]

I agree with FLskwat, the speed of drawing is in a direct relation with the temperature of the vaporisation. If you control this balance you'll get the vape you expect. For me also the 12o'clock is a right spot , after I can go to 3 or 4 o'clock without combustion and as already said above I also must be carefull with my draw speed that I increase progressively. I've tried Extrelme Q of my friend, and I find SSV better also especially his thick hits...

 

[FLskwat]

Hh, more French vapists!

 

[vapoMonde]

Yes we're coming better late than never

 

[nlferret]

Hey folks. SSV lover here, long time lurker. You folks actually helped me to decide on the SSV when I decided to take the plunge and move from combustion to vaping. Cheers!

Just to respond to some of the more recent topics on here... for me, 12 o'clock is about halfway. If I set my SSV I get light vaporization, yummy flavour, absolutely no combustion no matter how slow I pull. I personally like it set a little higher than that... say 1-2 o'clock.... I just make sure I pull hard enough not to burn it, and I get big hits. The only time I've really had combustion was when I set it up a bit too high and packed the bowl a bit too full anyhow.

I've noticed some folks talking about getting plant material in their mouth, I've personally never experienced that, but after the unit collects a bit of wand hash, sometimes that will come off the bottom of the screen and make its way to the mouthpiece. A little trick I learned for that... I use a brass screen that I bought for pipe use back in the day, really soft, and put it over the end of the mouthpiece, ie. kind of folding it back over it, and then fitted the whip over that in such a way that the screen covers the entry to the mouthpiece... it fit fine, and collected whatever bits of wand hash came loose and managed to make their way down there.

 

[Raf007]

Yes we're coming better late than never

Hey Hey, bienvenue sur FC !! Hope you 'll feel as good as us here !

 

[CombustionJunction]

OK.... so I just read this whole thread (promised the wife I would read it before buying, so I read the whole thing in 1 night lol) and I'm pretty sure this will become my next vape in about 5 minutes. I'm pretty psyched. Getting a Zen, Standard.

 

[weedemon]

the whole thread in a night eh? haha nice one man the zen looks really nice! I wanted it but i didnt really have the extra cash for it, so i went standard black on black.

It certainly does look like it's a great vape, big tasty hits, and also a great vape for hash and bong applications. I'm really looking forward to mine too. should be here this week i think. ill post back with comments on that when i've had a chance to use it.

what about his vape got you the most sure it was the one you wanted to buy next?

 

[CombustionJunction]

I got a really good deal on Vapeworld.com using the FC discount code, so I went for the Zen, especially after the all the pictures people have posted in here. The Zen definitely caught my eye most.

I just suddenly got the itch for a new vape. It's really just about the only thing I'm missing. I have the PD as my daily driver for efficiency. Bags from the ION for parties or when I just want to get FUCKED UP or for insomnia. I have two portables. I just needed a good whip vape; something in between the PD and the ION. So this gives me just about every option I could want. At some point, I may get a Vapexhale Cloud. LOL

 

[AGBeer]

I would say that this is a nice 'in between' from what you mentioned. I think this will be the equivalent of what your Ion can accomplish (via the whip) but a much thicker and denser cloudage. If you dont have a bong of sorts - get one. Not because its 'necessary' but because its awesommmmmme.

 

[CombustionJunction]

I do have one. I'm looking forward to using it!