I must be doing something wrong. I just can't seem to get flavor. I know the flower has flavor (in my FW9) but nothing with the SSV . I have the 6mm balls, running at about 50% or 6pm position, clean glass, new tube. Would going to a silicone tube help? It does the job really well, just miss tasting the goodness as well.
Silver Surfer Vaporizer
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Flow
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Did you try to turn the knob down a bit ? try to turn it on in doing just a quarter rotation of the knob ?
How long do you let your SSV warm up ? with balls, you need to let it warm up a bit longer.
Do you use a bong or an ash catcher to cool down the vapor ? it's a flavor stealer, particularly with water...
what's the lenght of your whip ? is your vapor hot or harsh ?
Any pics ?
There is a tip about how to set the knob to the zero position… just turn your device off, then pull on the knob and then replace it to the position you want for the start position… Mine is set on a socket with a switch sothat i barely use the knob once it's fine tuned ^^
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I have been leaving it on, haven't turned it off in three weeks. No bong, using the standard 3ft hose that it comes with. Vapor is cool, not hot until it is spent. The vapor isn't harsh, it is smooth. The case isn't hot, I can hold on to it for as long as I like, of course the end of the whip is really hot. I have the aroma dish on top. Thank you for the suggestions.
Flow
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Ok, that's a good start !
Everything you describe seems fonctionnal to me.
What stem do you use with it ? factory OG ? Ground glass ? Spherical ground glass ? how covered is your screen ?
You need to fill around 1/3 of the standard OG stem with fluffy botanicals. no draw resistance
maybe take the aroma top off when you vape… but i don't think this will be the master change...
Do you make big clouds or do you sip whispy vapor ? how's your first draw ? slow and long or fast long or fast short ?
Try to vape 'n stir on each draw first… stirring IS important with this vape (when you use it with the standard equipement)
Ever heard about @DDave ? he makes mods and kits for many vapes…
Everything you describe seems fonctionnal to me.
What stem do you use with it ? factory OG ? Ground glass ? Spherical ground glass ? how covered is your screen ?
You need to fill around 1/3 of the standard OG stem with fluffy botanicals. no draw resistance
maybe take the aroma top off when you vape… but i don't think this will be the master change...
Do you make big clouds or do you sip whispy vapor ? how's your first draw ? slow and long or fast long or fast short ?
Try to vape 'n stir on each draw first… stirring IS important with this vape (when you use it with the standard equipement)
Ever heard about @DDave ? he makes mods and kits for many vapes…
I’m using the stock wand and mouth piece. I do not use the hands free attachment. Spherical round glass, the screen is clean, I scrape out all I can then use a small stiff bristle brush for the tiny bits. I was filling the little area in the wand about half way but I think I was packing it too much. No draw resistance usually big clouds and first draw is usually slower than normal. I have not heard of @DDDave but I’ll check them out. I think if I play with the temp a little more I will be fine.What stem do you use with it ? factory OG ? Ground glass ? Spherical ground glass ? how covered is your screen ?
You need to fill around 1/3 of the standard OG stem with fluffy botanicals. no draw resistance
maybe take the aroma top off when you vape… but i don't think this will be the master change...
Do you make big clouds or do you sip whispy vapor ? how's your first draw ? slow and long or fast long or fast short ?
Flow
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If you get big clouds from the first draw, then you should try to turn your SSV down a bit...
First draw IS whispy anyway
if you want flavor so turn your SSV down and see if it taste better… best flavors occurs often without any visible vapor !
straight ground glass heater cover with a stem is my favorite BTW... easy, hands free…
Don't forget to STIR sir !
First draw IS whispy anyway
if you want flavor so turn your SSV down and see if it taste better… best flavors occurs often without any visible vapor !
straight ground glass heater cover with a stem is my favorite BTW... easy, hands free…
Don't forget to STIR sir !
Oh, I thought you meant in general, first draw is a bit more than wispy but not by a lot. Definitely stirring much more and it does help.If you get big clouds from the first draw, then you should try to turn your SSV down a bit...
First draw IS whispy anyway
Marcus
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A stir and a few crumbs of fresh on top and tamped down with the hatpin marble thingy really does stretch the flavour out in a bowl.
Some strains can lose flavour after a couple of lungfuls I find, so topping them up helps.
Other strains will keep pumping flavour out with just a stir.
I still love my SSV. The balls have made it even better.
Is it possible to use the balled super surfer in fan mode, using just glass, no bags or whip?
So like the below pic another user shared. Could I have a set up like this, but use the fan to blow the vapour into my lungs like the Volcano Hybrid. Is this possible? or does it come with problems?
So like the below pic another user shared. Could I have a set up like this, but use the fan to blow the vapour into my lungs like the Volcano Hybrid. Is this possible? or does it come with problems?
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Garybuchanen
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Is there a video somewhere with the ball version of the ssv ? Would love to see it,such a special vape this is was my first true desktop heavy hitter. I remember taking it after school in a friends shed and blowing down lol.
And red that should work for sure!! All glass ssv sounds freaking amazing !!
And red that should work for sure!! All glass ssv sounds freaking amazing !!
When you clean the wand and whip, do you try to save the reclaim? if you do, how do you do it? Also, how do you clean the tube? Thanks!
The Elev8 website has links to several videos on their YouTube channel.
Cervical CBD
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I’m about to retire mine after replacing the heater and the dimmer switch breaking less than 24 hours later. Elev8 should include the dimmer switch when you buy the heating element instead of labeling it as an option. Now in order to fix mine, I’ll have to pay $25 plus shipping again and pull the entire unit apart a 2nd time. I refuse to do that because insure a feeling that these things are worthless once they break the 1st time. It was good for 6 or so years but I’m looking for a replacement…
hoptimum
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I progressed from an SSV to a ball vape and haven't looked back.
Reclaim from a pvc whip does not sound too yummy...
Meanwhile just wanted to update that I have gone back to the 3mm ball heater cover with 3mm balls. I have to order the 4mm ones to see if they fit in this heater cover in order to form a bottom layer of 4mm balls and try to cover only the red hot part of the ceramic rod with 3mm balls, in an attempt to improve the airflow.
With the 6mm heater cover filled with 3mm balls, while amazing for daytime use, combines great airflow with good clouds, even at max temperature the load never gets to the brown colour I like for night time use. Since getting the tempest I have been using the SSV only at night so a heavier hit is wanted. I believe what happens is, since the 6mm heater cover is much wider, and the ceramic rod not too powerful, I believe the balls on the outer edge of the heater don't heat up as much.
The 3mm heater cover is very narrow, so the ceramic rod heats the rubies very well. It is just a beast. I will try improving the airflow of this one, instead of trying to make the 6mm one more powerful. Maybe a few terp rods or 4mm balls thrown at the bottom of the 3mm heater cover would work if they fit, upto maybe an inch from the bottom, and then fill the rest with 3mm balls. This or 4mm balls throughout. More testing needed, but I am sure the balance can be found as it has more than enough power when filled with 3mm balls (I only use it below 12oclock power).
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Allen Ginsbud
I have seen the best minds of my generation
Yes you can use just glass as a pathway for the vapor. Elev8 even sells an all-glass wand: https://www.elev8glassgallery.com/h...for-silver-surfer-super-surfer-and-da-buddha/
But you do still have to inhale, if that’s what you’re asking. The fan is not strong enough to blow the vapor into your lungs.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
Yeah, that picture is mine
. It's a pure convection, super tasty glass powerhouse with the baller cover and >300 rubies added but there's no fan that I know of... at least not on the DaBuddha. Don't know about the SSV. I remember that you have TMJD but there really is no restriction at all in this setup. It's quite wide open and around 11am on the dial, it's extremely flavorful.I thank @coolbreeze for the recommendation. I was going to order the much more expensive Vaporbrothers VB1.5 (which I hear is great too).
Yep. Exactly my experience too.
Flow
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I guess it is.
Did you try it ?
No fan on DaBuddha, no fan on SSV but there is one on a SUPER
Mine is a SILVER Surfer
cluffy
Vaker
Cheers all. I've been away from FC forca while, but just wanted to drop in and say something. I've been without my Da Buddha (it has SSV type glass, so I'm posting in both forums) nearly all Summer. I just didn't want to clean the wand, my buddy and I got carried away putting shatter on bud in it. It was a mess. So I finally cleaned it, put in a new screen and hot her hard today. Used the Vapor Tamer, and took some huge rips, bigger than I think I can with the Vapexhale Evo. Da Buddha/SSV is by far my favorite vape.
Change my mind... lol
Change my mind... lol
Just wanted to add something that I did not mention before. The ball modded ssv is very versatile in terms of usage and dosage. It can be used to one hit a small amount (the minimum effective dosage is one that covers the screen at the bottom, this will vary depending on your wand system), or it can be filled with a good amount and enjoyed slowly over half an hour, with infrequent pulls like a hookah. Obviously stirring will improve the experience, but this can be also not be done at a minimal loss. I also find that the material does not cook too much in the oven as there is some distance to the heat source and the wand only gets hot enough that you can still touch it comfortably.
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
SOOOOOOO Excited!!!
Many moons ago I managed to procure one of the last 'Mind Eraser' designs before they started heavily leaning into the sublimation series.
I loved and cared for that vaporizer for many years before I sold it to a good buddy of mine who said that he would gladly hold it until the time came for me to reclaim it.
This is that week.
I am shopping for all new internals and glass for my OG showpiece.
Can't wait man!!!
Many moons ago I managed to procure one of the last 'Mind Eraser' designs before they started heavily leaning into the sublimation series.
I loved and cared for that vaporizer for many years before I sold it to a good buddy of mine who said that he would gladly hold it until the time came for me to reclaim it.
This is that week.
I am shopping for all new internals and glass for my OG showpiece.
Can't wait man!!!
blackstone
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It's amazing I'm hearing someone else say it! Yes,
This was exactly me when I first SSV43"d my 240V SSV!
Ball modding a 240V SSV can heat the air too hot for herbs even on the lowest setting.
I might have tried it once using a 110V transformer and it's possible it didn't quite heat enough on full power then.
But eventually I either asked Elev8 or found a discussion where they said it was perfectly fine to just use a regular dimmer switch for incandescent lighting on your source socket.
So I made up a little ext. lead with a dimmer inline.
With the dimmer I used it just took a little bit of setup to dial out some flickering or pulsing in the indicator lamp or some buzzing and it has been perfection ever since!
You just need to use an incandescent dimmer which works a min. load as low as 30-45 watts, I can't remember if the one I used is rated this low as it's zip tied in place in a box now, but it works fine!
I saw a 40-250W one online just now.
You could also search 420Vapezone content for SSV43 to get a general idea of balls in an SSV performance.
It's interesting reading your findings from your fun experimenting! I imagine it probably is down to where the glass is located in each cover and the volume or thickness of the glass parts and/or the balls, plus maybe the properties of rubies.
Maybe also the shape and size of the holes in and out of each cover.
From reading your posts, something makes me wonder is your ceramic rod height ok.
The rod can fall down a little in its sleeve and sometimes needs periodic checking or adjusting or it can cause symptoms like what you have mentioned.
Is your SSV a 240V? And you could turn it up full with some balls and still not be too hot?
I think the right height is a few millimetres below the heater cover ceiling in a regular spherical cover.
Maybe you knew this.
Thank you for making me aware of these new official baller cover kits through your postings around FC!
What a great, multi talented company, so dedicated to all of their ideas and systems. What other company could or would renew an older machine of theirs for another life, and can also pimp it up, tune it. Even fix a broken bong too!Well, the wait is going to be a bit longer now that I got it back...
Apparently it wasn't taken *as* good of care of as I had hoped and some repairs have to be made.
Its on its way to CO to be repaired and to acquire some new accessories.
Still excited to have it back
Mixing electrical engineers and glass blowers with amazing imagination and impeccable customer service is always going to work out great for us!
Hope you enjoy your new old vape, it sounds cool.
Thanks for your comment. I am not 100% sure if the rod height is still ok, but when I did set it up I had the care to check and it seemed in line with what I saw on videos. With the 6mm ball heater, even on full heat, it never blackens the load. With the 3mm ball heater on full heat, it can blacken the load and I only use it like this if I want to pull slowly, I imagine that a fast pull at this temperature would probably combust (not really wanting to find out though!). Mine is a European plug version, not sure on voltage.
blackstone
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Ah, maybe it's fine so. And it probably doesn't make as much difference when using balls anyway.
It's probably more to do with airflow in your different heater covers.
I saw this video about heater rod adjustment earlier, it says there is a silver line on the rod to help.
Also, here is a good official Elev8 video from Steve that I found earlier on the baller vape @Garybuchanen
I wonder do any of these rubies move around when you inhale or do you just stuff it completely full like I did with mine?