Silver Surfer Vaporizer

I've been using Alumina Ceramic balls in my SSV43 for awhile now, ordered them from AliExpress and they seem to hold more heat than borosilicate balls, they have similar thermal properties to SiC for a significantly cheaper price. I've checked them after a month of everyday use and they're still in perfect condition.

Here's where I bought them, I got 200 and had a few to spare. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1941197528.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.32.2d9b1fd05Pvrib

This seller also sells 3mm SiC balls but you have to buy at least 500 and that comes out to $125 vs $35 for 200 Alumina Ceramic balls.



Why did you pick Alimina ceramic? The properties look very nice, especially with anti-wear and being used in plumbing applications:


"Al2O3 ball is anti-wear, heat-resistant, anti-oxidant, and corrosion resistant, in salt solution
and other chemicals. One feature of Al2O3 ball is its size remains unchanged up to 1100degC.
Al2O3 ball is mainly used for pump, valve and flow-meter

Note:
1. Al2O3 content is 99.5%
2. Non-standard size could be supplied
3. Fracture toughness is relatively lower
4. Al2O3 ball is not suitable for application in HCI acid, HF acid and strong alkali"

Sounds perfec. A the temperatures we're using, we probably won't be experiencing any dust, we're well below the meltiing point, it's size won't even change, but 2000 knoop (what I can find as a rating for alumina ceramic), that's ~9 or corunom on the mohs hardness scale. That's not what concerns me. What concerns me is

"Alumina is produced by firing a tightly packed powder form of Al2O3 which includes some binder material. Commercially available grades range from 90% up to 99.95% with the higher purity generating somewhat higher hardness."

What is that binder material as well? We're .45 off of max purity, can that binder change? Call me overanxious if you want, but I don't trust a seller with so few sales and I'd like to know what that binder is. The MSDS for alumina looks very nice, no known health hazards, and this is the toxicology report:

"In general, aluminas are efficiently eliminated from the lung and are considered to be nuisance dusts; their role in fibrogenic lung disease remains unclear. High aluminium levels (between 400 and 1080 mg/kg of wet pulmonary tissue) have been found in the lungs of subjects exposed during 10 to 37 years to alumina dust.Animal experiments indicate that prolonged inhalation of alumina involves a rise in the concentration of aluminium in the brain. A review of the literature (1957), on the pulmonary toxicity aluminium carried out in the USA concluded that aluminium, aluminium oxide and aluminium hydroxyde Al(OH)3 do not cause pulmonary effects; the lesions reported by some authors would result from the presence of other substances."

Only negative I can think of is a study re. inhalation of alumina dust, but again, resistance to wear and these aren't really moving since they aren't changing size.
 
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SquirrelMaster

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Why did you pick Alimina ceramic? The properties look very nice, especially with anti-wear and being used in plumbing applications:


"Al2O3 ball is anti-wear, heat-resistant, anti-oxidant, and corrosion resistant, in salt solution
and other chemicals. One feature of Al2O3 ball is its size remains unchanged up to 1100degC.
Al2O3 ball is mainly used for pump, valve and flow-meter

Note:
1. Al2O3 content is 99.5%
2. Non-standard size could be supplied
3. Fracture toughness is relatively lower
4. Al2O3 ball is not suitable for application in HCI acid, HF acid and strong alkali"

Sounds perfec. A the temperatures we're using, we probably won't be experiencing any dust, we're well below the meltiing point, it's size won't even change, but 2000 knoop (what I can find as a rating for alumina ceramic), that's ~9 or corunom on the mohs hardness scale. That's not what concerns me. What concerns me is

"Alumina is produced by firing a tightly packed powder form of Al2O3 which includes some binder material. Commercially available grades range from 90% up to 99.95% with the higher purity generating somewhat higher hardness."

What is that binder material as well? We're .45 off of max purity, can that binder change? Call me overanxious if you want, but I don't trust a seller with so few sales and I'd like to know what that binder is. The MSDS for alumina looks very nice, no known health hazards, and this is the toxicology report:

"In general, aluminas are efficiently eliminated from the lung and are considered to be nuisance dusts; their role in fibrogenic lung disease remains unclear. High aluminium levels (between 400 and 1080 mg/kg of wet pulmonary tissue) have been found in the lungs of subjects exposed during 10 to 37 years to alumina dust.Animal experiments indicate that prolonged inhalation of alumina involves a rise in the concentration of aluminium in the brain. A review of the literature (1957), on the pulmonary toxicity aluminium carried out in the USA concluded that aluminium, aluminium oxide and aluminium hydroxyde Al(OH)3 do not cause pulmonary effects; the lesions reported by some authors would result from the presence of other substances."

Only negative I can think of is a study re. inhalation of alumina dust, but again, resistance to wear and these aren't really moving since they aren't changing size.
Alumina ceramic is what a few vapes use in the heating element construction including the SSV.
 
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stickstones

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Yo Sticks, I only just read this post because currently, since FC's little re-vamping, most new posts I see, when I click on them, direct me to page 1 of the thread, not the actual newest post as did always used to happen.

Probably related to my tablet's software and FC upgrades or something, and it doesn't happen every time, just most times.

So I landed on page 1 here today, hence me reading your post here. I almost rubbed my eyes lol, like day 1 at school lol!

We all start somewhere, some time I guess, and we definitely take that for granted as time goes on.
That looks like an old post! Yeah man... Most of my journey is documented on this site, from noob to now
 

Alexis

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That looks like an old post! Yeah man... Most of my journey is documented on this site, from noob to now
Yeah I concluded so. I only made that comment, because it was both initially startling to me, to see how green bananaed even somebody I regard here as the most humbly but highly educated and experienced vaporists...

To see YOU , a mortal vaporist after all haha! Actually being so new to it once.

I got my first vaporizer in 1999 myself at 19, crappy old conduction Master Blaster.

But I think by at least 2006 the concept of different actives and effect profile are acheivable at different temps, had started to become a stronger part of my awareness.

I just always have seen you as being so wise and knowledgable about all aspects of cannabis vaporisation, including one of the widest range of top and all different vapes.

You put so much into the paster year, developing vape thteads i.e VHW and LSV, many more and still equally to this day still full credit.


So...it just made me laught to read that, not SOOOO long ago.
It put something into perspective for me. Sorry, too high right now to figute that out lol!

Anyway, do hope you are coping well brother and thanks for answering.

I always appreciate your sounding board inputs.
 
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stickstones

Vapor concierge
Yeah I concluded so. I only made that comment, because it was both initially startling to me, to see how green bananaed even somebody I regard here as the most humbly but highly educated and experienced vaporists...

To see YOU , a mortal vaporist after all haha! Actually being so new to it once.

I got my first vaporizer in 1999 myself at 19, crappy old conduction Master Blaster.

But I think by at least 2006 the concept of different actives and effect profile are acheivable at different temps, had started to become a stronger part of my awareness.

I just always have seen you as being so wise and knowledgable about all aspects of cannabis vaporisation, including one of the widest range of top and all different vapes.

You put so much into the paster year, developing vape thteads i.e VHW and LSV, many more and still equally to this day still full credit.


So...it just made me laught to read that, not SOOOO long ago.
It put something into perspective for me. Sorry, too high right now to figute that out lol!

Anyway, do hope you are coping well brother and thanks for answering.

I always appreciate your sounding board inputs.
You're too kind!
 

Alexis

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You're too kind!
Just purely honest always mate in thought and feeling.

I will gladly accept the label of kind, because yes I guess I am kind.

Most people probably just don't understand how to be kind enough, and we really need a kinder world with fuller acceptance of, support for, and kindnesd towards each other, IMO.

So I guess I just naturally try to lead by example.
 

arb

Semi shaved ape
Just purely honest always mate in thought and feeling.

I will gladly accept the label of kind, because yes I guess I am kind.

Most people probably just don't understand how to be kind enough, and we really need a kinder world with fuller acceptance of, support for, and kindnesd towards each other, IMO.

So I guess I just naturally try to lead by example.
You indeed make me post in a kinder and gentler manner,thank you.
🙂
 

Alexis

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You indeed make me post in a kinder and gentler manner,thank you.
🙂
Thank YOU my friend!

And lol, I can pretty "cutting" when I feel like it too!
Maybe a kind knife stays sharper? Is more powerful when it comes to slicing through turkey haha.

What a provoking analogy.

So I'm all for speaking mind and being critical, when it is justified and serves a purpose. But I still try to be the bright lantern in the face of wrong or evil, at such times.
 

arb

Semi shaved ape
Got a replacement wand and I keep sucking in ABV. Maybe it’s my Shredder...it’s tough for me to not grind it too fine.
Is the glass where the screen lays flat?
They sent me a couple wands where the joint was made unevenly resulting in duff falling through no matter what.
I sent them a pic and had a new one in a couple days,that was a couple years ago.
 

Cervical CBD

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Is the glass where the screen lays flat?
They sent me a couple wands where the joint was made unevenly resulting in duff falling through no matter what.
I sent them a pic and had a new one in a couple days,that was a couple years ago.

No the screens always sit above and you can see duff get underneath it.
 
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No the screens always sit above and you can see duff get underneath it.
@arb was asking if the glass surface that the screen rests on is flat. It sounds like your wand is not flat in that area? My screen moves around easily and I stir constantly but I'm also running through water most of the time so I haven't noticed any bits in my mouth.
 
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arb

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@arb was asking if the glass surface that the screen rests on is flat. It sounds like your wand is not flat in that area? My screen moves around easily and I stir constantly but I'm also running through water most of the time so I haven't noticed any bits in my mouth.
Yes the frit was all uneven creating a gap.
I have a box full of wands different heater covers and the quality is great mostly but some have flaws.
Hand production pieces will have wider variations?
 

Cervical CBD

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Yes the frit was all uneven creating a gap.
I have a box full of wands different heater covers and the quality is great mostly but some have flaws.
Hand production pieces will have wider variations?

I sent them an email and they asked for pictures which I sent. The screen curves up and I’ve tried several screens...
 
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