Silver Surfer Vaporizer

[Raskin666]

@grokit Yes. I am a compulsive stirrer, and I rotate and turn the wand regular (standard).
@Korben I think the cord should go on the side of the knob and be deatchable, so you could replace it if you needed to.

 

[grokit]

Or how about a table...

...with a hole in it?

 

[Korben]

Yeah that's an SSV quirk. I think the overall unit is an elegant solution for looking clean in front with a downward-angled heater cover. This is what the slanted tube design is all about. If the tube wasn't slanted, or didn't have a cut-out (which wouldn't look as slick as a bullet-tube), the heater cover would have to stick out like a faucet so you could get under it. This would look goofy (we could call it the gonzo tube) and would be hazardous to have hot glass protruding from the design.

Another benefit though is that the logo/front looks super clean with no heating element or cord, and maybe kinda discreet too depending on your colors. Can't really tell what it is unless you're 420 smart and you recognize the blown glass, and then you can only suspect unless you inspect it or know the SSV already.

I'm still waiting for mine. I think I'll be turning it 90 degrees (sideways - left hand knob, right hand wand) for vaping, and squaring it up again when done... we'll see.

If you don't care about the SSV downward design, maybe you shoulda gotten a DBV ... BUT BEFORE YOU GET SICK WITH REMORSE, enjoy the downward design - you won't be fighting gravity as you try to keep herbs spread evenly on your wand's screen (no spin just to avoid mess) - and the SSV's heating element has a greater surface area, it has aluminum housing, hand-blown glass parts... you got the pimp vape.

edit: idea: put the SSV on one of those lazy susan spinning things?

I love the look of it when not in use and I constantly have the glass inserts with the melts its great. I am going look for a lazy Susan if they had one with a looking mechanism that would be absolutely perfect. Great idea.

 

[Korben]

Or how about a table...

...with a hole in it?

Is that the Rainbow Zen color? So dope.

 

[SavageCore]

Hello SSV users!

I come from modded Extreme Q land using your wonderful Ground Glass Wands!

Anyway, I had a quick search of this thread and saw people getting the blemished units but has anyone bought mouthpieces? I currently use a standard clear glass one (bought wand whip kit)

http://silversurfervap.com/glass/mouthpeices/blemished-custom-mouthpiece.html#

Those are the mouthpieces. I am just looking for pictures/info on what these may end up looking like.

Thanks

 

[xRUFUSx]

... I had a quick search of this thread and saw people getting the blemished units but has anyone bought mouthpieces? ...
http://silversurfervap.com/glass/mouthpeices/blemished-custom-mouthpiece.html#

NICE I've scowered the SSV site and didn't see these, thanks!! Posting pics when available

edit: just noticed "*These Mouthpieces were made in the training process*"
It's like college basketball. Everyone makes a lot of mistakes noob mistakes and has regularly has to draw on some natural ability to salvage the situation, so it's likely to be interesting.

 

[chimpybits]

Are those fine mesh?

I agree, ripping the ring off is a PITA, much better solution. I did two more this weekend.

Are the UD's screens adjustable? I just found out recently the e-nano screens are adjustable too.

Maybe I should try this instead of the EQ elbow screens, but I think I'm done with my SSV thanks to my crappy wand. Tweek's mod does not work for my wand. I think my bore of my wand is still too big - the rimless EQ screen just slips down and cannot stay horizontal.

I hate my wand. There I said it and feel better now. I've struggled with it from day 1 - years ago. It's too wide so tons of bits go through. When I used to hit it dry I would constantly be eating herb. The wand is also too deep so I cannot extract as others do - cannot achieve coffee dark ABV.

I've been using a cotton filter in the wand to catch the bits and oil and increase the resistance with helps a bit with extraction.

I should have picked up a better wand ages ago or the smaller vaporbros mini whip. I'm too broke at the moment (esp. after wasting 10$ on the EQ screens). I still have all original glass as I'm not clumsy.

And my ceramic element is way off-centre. I know blown glass varies, but still feel 7th Floor could exercise more QC. I'm looking forward to selling my SSV to help fund my HI. Whew, long overdue rant over.

 

[Tweak]

I hate my wand. There I said it and feel better now.

Sorry to hear this. I doubt I'll ever part with my SSV, it can kick my a$$.

Do you have a pic of your wand? Have you tried contacting 7th floor about it(though I doubt they help you)?

My first wand was similar to your wand, but I doubt to your extremes. Had to switch to a bigger screen size.

But yeah I agree, the blown glass variable is real and can effect performance.

 

[Stthings]

How would you guys rate the SSV to the LSV? It's a toss up between the two on what I want to purchase next.

 

[Tweak]

I guess that depends on how you are going to use these vapes.

Do you have a waterpipe? Do you mind using a whip?

I've never used a LSV, but I'd figure vapor output is roughly the same, but I see no way the LSV could produce vapor as dense as a SSV w/standard HC. I'm curious myself, I've heard nothing but great things about the LSV though.

 

[grokit]

I just posted this in the lsv thread:

I think the ssv is more versatile as far as different uses (aroma, oil kit),
while the lsv is a bit more transportable and can be used directly with glass.
Also the ssv is better for leaving turned on, so can be always at the ready.

@chimpybits, is it the standard wand that's displeasing you?

 

[Stthings]

I guess that depends on how you are going to use these vapes.

Do you have a waterpipe? Do you mind using a whip?

I've never used a LSV, but I'd figure vapor output is roughly the same, but I see no way the LSV could produce vapor as dense as a SSV w/standard HC. I'm curious myself, I've heard nothing but great things about the LSV though.

Yeah! I've got a PN Pro WT as well as 2 14 mm bongs that I;d like to use. I like water vaping so that's a plus!

 

[chimpybits]

@chimpybits, is it the standard wand that's displeasing you?

Sorry to hear this. I doubt I'll ever part with my SSV, it can kick my a$$.

Do you have a pic of your wand? Have you tried contacting 7th floor about it(though I doubt they help you)?

My first wand was similar to your wand, but I doubt to your extremes. Had to switch to a bigger screen size.

But yeah I agree, the blown glass variable is real and can effect performance.

Yep standard wand. I didn't contact 7th floor about the wand. I've had my SSV kit for nearly 3 years so it's just something I've put up with and been too lame to rectify. Really should have picked up a better wand ages ago.

I did have the local CDN returns dept assess my SSV unit years ago as I was concerned about the skewed heater and incomplete extraction. They thought my SSV performed very well. However, they didn't use my wand so I'm sure my weaker performance is entirely attributable to my wand's deep, wide bowl.

I am curious how much better the experience could be with a better wand, but I'll never know. I'm done really and look forward to getting rid of the whip.

It's been strangely under-performing from the norm lately which finally precipitated my trying the 'Tweek', getting further frustrated, then posting a lil rant. I'm hoping it's the flowers as I tried a diff dispens. I also recently cleaned my wand which I feel diminishes performance due to decreased resistance (no resin to seal the gaps around the screen and fresh cotton filter).

 

[Burn]

if you're unhappy with your wand, definitely change it up. ssv is so versatile. i started w/the standard hc and stand wand and enjoy it. i also have a vapor brothers miniwand which works great for smaller loads and its inexpensive. i used that for quite a while.

then i got an lsv hc and it works great with the lsv wpa or 18mm gong. i use it handheld just like an lsv.

last night, i went back to the standard wand and have been using the underdog formed screens in it. one formed screen doesnt seem to catch well enough along the sides, but 2 work very well. i can set my bowl now at any level in the wand. tried it last night for the first time and nearly combusted. definitely need to adjust the heat depending how close to the heat you move your load. more experimenting needed.

 

[Vitolo]

Once you find a wand you are happy with, you become dependent on it. I used a Standard wand for 3 years before it broke at my own clumsy hand. I bought more wands, but had a hard time finding a replacement. When I got one I liked, I became very cautious with it!
The porridge was too hot...then too cold...
Now that I found one.. I treat it as gold!

 

[kp35]

any way to use a glass screen?

 

[Clunis]

Hey everyone, hope you're all doing well. This is my first post on FC; I have been vaporizing for a little over a year now with Extreme Q and I have been loving vaporizing. I thought this may belong in 'Ask FC' but I decided to try posting here before a created a new thread. Therefore I apologize in advance if this is the wrong thread for this.

Recently I've been considering purchasing a new vaporizer as I've came across some money I didn't expect to receive (always nice ). The idea of pure tasty vapors delivered by an all glass vapor path has perked my interest. The SSV and LSV are the main ones that I'm considering.

Specifically, I was wondering about how much draw resistance (or drag, I'm not sure what the preferred term is) the SSV has? As well, if anyone here has used both the SSV and LSV, how does the amount of resistance compare? Furthermore if anyone could compare the amount of resistance they both have in comparison to the Extreme Q, that would be even better; although I realize that is a bit of a long shot.

Thanks all who have taken the time to read! In the meantime, happy vaping folks!

 

[SpruceGruve]

Hey everyone, hope you're all doing well. This is my first post on FC; I have been vaporizing for a little over a year now with Extreme Q and I have been loving vaporizing. I thought this may belong in 'Ask FC' but I decided to try posting here before a created a new thread. Therefore I apologize in advance if this is the wrong thread for this.

Recently I've been considering purchasing a new vaporizer as I've came across some money I didn't expect to receive (always nice ). The idea of pure tasty vapors delivered by an all glass vapor path has perked my interest. The SSV and LSV are the main ones that I'm considering.

Specifically, I was wondering about how much draw resistance (or drag, I'm not sure what the preferred term is) the SSV has? As well, if anyone here has used both the SSV and LSV, how does the amount of resistance compare? Furthermore if anyone could compare the amount of resistance they both have in comparison to the Extreme Q, that would be even better; although I realize that is a bit of a long shot.

Thanks all who have taken the time to read! In the meantime, happy vaping folks!

I really like my ssv,but I haven't tried a LSV to compair .

There is little to no resistance on my ssv,but it is not a all glass pathway because of the tubing on the whip......that being said I wouldn't worry about it.

If your looking for big bong rips I'd suggest the LSV,if your looking for whip usage and occasional bong use I would suggest the SSV

 

[Grim Chiclets]

but it is not a all glass pathway because of the tubing on the whip......that being said I wouldn't worry about it.

Just to elaborate for anyone who may not know already, the hose on the SSV and DBV is high temperature Silicone- resistance to 300+ degrees Celsius

 

[SpruceGruve]

Just to elaborate for anyone who may not know already, the hose on the SSV and DBV is high temperature Silicone- resistance to 300+ degrees Celsius

I should have mentioned that in my post,that's why I said I wouldn't worry about it

 

[Vitolo]

Just to elaborate for anyone who may not know already, the hose on the SSV and DBV is high temperature Silicone- resistance to 300+ degrees Celsius

And I will add.... p[lease feel free to verify with 7th Floor LLC at any time.
Years ago, when the owner of 7th floor wanted this hose formula, but with a softer feel to it...
had to commit on his first order of tubing, to purchase enough of the formulated hose he wanted to circle the earth 9 times.
That is a great deal of hose, but they were sure it would be good!

 

[Breathemetal]

And I will add.... p[lease feel free to verify with 7th Floor LLC at any time.
Years ago, when the owner of 7th floor wanted this hose formula, but with a softer feel to it...
had to commit on his first order of tubing, to purchase enough of the formulated hose he wanted to circle the earth 9 times.
That is a great deal of hose, but they were sure it would be good!

Thats 224109 miles i believe

 

[Tweak]

the hose on the SSV and DBV is high temperature Silicone- resistance to 300+ degrees Celsius

AFAIK, the SSV whip is NOT silcone, but a mixture of vinyl tubing and something else.

 

[Vitolo]

Not vinyl, although vinyl is similar in appearance.
It is a proprietary blend of Tygon©, and other high temp "elements"

 

[tuk]

7th Floor are a bit vague(almost evasive) on the subject of their tubing, but it does say on their site when describing the SSV accessories: 1 Glass Kit (includes heater cover, wand, 3ft. of 3/4" food grade vinyl tube, clear glass mouthpiece).

Having looked at the thermal properties of vinyl I wont ever be using their tubing. Food grade doesn't mean it's safe for vapor heat. The max working temp of vinyl tubing is around 180F, but it will start off-gassing at temps lower that 180F. This max temp is way too low to be safe for Vaping.

Of course, 7th Floor could clear this up by providing the standard data sheet from the chemical company that made their tubing.

Personally(After a lot of research) I think only high grade Silicone or PTFE(Teflon) approaches being safe for vaping even then I would prefer an all glass path.