Silver Surfer Vaporizer
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Tweak
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Did you buy the matching Heater Cover to go with the GG wand?
Confused me at first. There is a hands-free attachment for the Standard wand, then there is the Hands-Free Ground Glass wand.
As for tubing, I prefer Tygone Silicone tubing over the stock SSV tubing. Problem is you have to order 10' from USPlastics.
DogDad
Well-Known Member
Hi Tweak. I'm using this wand for the Extreme Q with the DDave adapter. I just didn't know what size of tube it took and wanted to order it before the wand arrived.
I assume you are referring to this one. http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=31573&catid=982
Vitolo
Vaporist
That one may not be as good as http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?sku=57243&catid=1003
It has a higher pressure rating, as well as vacuum rating.
Also like SSV tubing it does not bleed through resins.
Using the one you site, (sanitary Silicone), I found that when vaping concentrates, or after long sessions repeatedly the Non clear silicone by US Plastics gets "tacky" on the outer surface.
Anyone familiar with oils/waxes can attest to this fact.. that silicone will get sticky on the outside .. especially closest to the wand and at mouthpiece.
Tweak
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What has me worried about the Tygon B-44-3 is the Maximum Recommended Operating temp is only 165 degrees F (74 degrees C) and in the MSDS sheet it states the tubing has a slight odor. And that temperatures above 300 Degrees will slowly decompose the tubing material resulting in off gassing.
While the Tygon® Sanitary Silicone is rated for up to 400 degrees F (204 degrees C) and no odor listed.
Been using my silicone tubing on my VXC as the glass mouthpiece just gets too hot on my lips. I would wager the output is reaching beyond 165 degrees. Just something to keep in mind DogDag, if you plan on using tubing for other projects.
BJPennLWGOAT
Member
Enjoy brother! I'm currently deciding if I want to get a LSV or Da Buddha. Oh these Xmas decisions are tough
hoptimum
Well-Known Member
The more you use it the better it gets. Enjoy
SeaNvapor
New Member
Hey all you SSV'ers,
I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. With FC's help I purchased my SSV 4 years ago and it has been my primary vape every since. Recently, my screens are getting clogged around the edges after one session. I'm using the original wand, usually filled about 1/3 or less.
I'm wondering if someone can point me to a "best method" post for the SSV, I've looked around the thread but 200 pages!
Thanks!
I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. With FC's help I purchased my SSV 4 years ago and it has been my primary vape every since. Recently, my screens are getting clogged around the edges after one session. I'm using the original wand, usually filled about 1/3 or less.
I'm wondering if someone can point me to a "best method" post for the SSV, I've looked around the thread but 200 pages!
Thanks!
slicketyrickety
New Member
Does the standard out of the box SSV have everything to adapt to an 18mm bong? Or do I need adapters?
hoptimum
Well-Known Member
Youll need an adapter from the whip to your 18mm downstem
hoptimum
Well-Known Member
Stirring between hits and having a pointed tool to run around the outer part of the screen and loosen the edges up will help. Theres a lot of goodness there
SeaNvapor
New Member
Oh I stir, lift, shake, and poke but the edges still get gummed up. I'm going to give the ELB mod a go and see how that works.
Vitolo
Vaporist
I use a dry brush cleaning technique between sessions.
Check back in this thread...
See http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/silver-surfer-vaporizer.2/page-166#post-386477 and halfway down the page, in discussion of "avoiding wand hash buildup", you will find the pictures, and the explanation.
Check back in this thread...
See http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/silver-surfer-vaporizer.2/page-166#post-386477 and halfway down the page, in discussion of "avoiding wand hash buildup", you will find the pictures, and the explanation.
grokit
well-worn member
@Vitolo, do you have a link to the steps for adjusting/tightening the ssv's heating element? I just installed the oil kit, and in the process dislodged the element so it moves up and down freely now, about 1/2" of play. It still works fine, just seems like it wants to be tightened up and I'm not sure how to approach it.
Vitolo
Vaporist
I am not sure.. I always worked with them loose.
I found this:
http://silversurfervap.com/silver-surfer-vaporizer-information/heater-cover-help.html
about the HC, Then I found this page:
http://silversurfervap.com/silver-surfer-vaporizer-information.html
That refers to a section just about the ceramic element.
The links do not work, and I can not "get there" I will talk to them on Monday and we will get the links worked out.
I found this:
http://silversurfervap.com/silver-surfer-vaporizer-information/heater-cover-help.html
about the HC, Then I found this page:
http://silversurfervap.com/silver-surfer-vaporizer-information.html
That refers to a section just about the ceramic element.
The links do not work, and I can not "get there" I will talk to them on Monday and we will get the links worked out.
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grokit
well-worn member
Okay thanks, maybe it's supposed to be loose and I never noticed it before. I haven't messed with my heater cover/element in years, maybe never since I bought it with this one. I thought there might be a set screw somewhere to lock the element down but it doesn't seem so.
As far as the oil kit goes, the whole thing seems fragile but effective. The ti bowl heats up very quickly and gets extremely hot. I have only tried wand hash in it so far, not really the way to go. The bowl requires cleaning afterwords and it's a delicate operation requiring very small needlenose pliers to r&r it. So dabs is its new purpose, but I don't really have any access to concentrates atm so just aromatherapy for a while.
Which leads to me wondering if the new style aromatherapy dish will work with the oil kit, so I was planning on giving them a call myself regarding both matters. I have an older dish that works uncomfortably with the ground glass wand and heater cover I was using but it worked. I will get the new style aroma dish if it works with the oil kit installed, or...
I also have a really old aromatherapy setup for my 1st ssv that I was planning on passing along with the ssv at some point, which is the version with an ssv body extension held in place with a spring clamp, and holds a plain round glass bowl type of dish--remember those? If that's the only way to do aromatherapy with the oil kit, it will cause me to re-evaluate my plans for trimming my ssv collection to one because that is the goal.
The problem is the ssv I want to keep has a custom finish, and the aroma extension is black anodized to match my 1st ssv. I'll figure it out.
I will add that even in the face of all these newfangled vaporizers, the ssv continues to be a versatile heavy-hitter and I will miss using flowers with it. I think it's still a great investment for any vaporist.
As far as the oil kit goes, the whole thing seems fragile but effective. The ti bowl heats up very quickly and gets extremely hot. I have only tried wand hash in it so far, not really the way to go. The bowl requires cleaning afterwords and it's a delicate operation requiring very small needlenose pliers to r&r it. So dabs is its new purpose, but I don't really have any access to concentrates atm so just aromatherapy for a while.
Which leads to me wondering if the new style aromatherapy dish will work with the oil kit, so I was planning on giving them a call myself regarding both matters. I have an older dish that works uncomfortably with the ground glass wand and heater cover I was using but it worked. I will get the new style aroma dish if it works with the oil kit installed, or...
I also have a really old aromatherapy setup for my 1st ssv that I was planning on passing along with the ssv at some point, which is the version with an ssv body extension held in place with a spring clamp, and holds a plain round glass bowl type of dish--remember those? If that's the only way to do aromatherapy with the oil kit, it will cause me to re-evaluate my plans for trimming my ssv collection to one because that is the goal.
The problem is the ssv I want to keep has a custom finish, and the aroma extension is black anodized to match my 1st ssv. I'll figure it out.
I will add that even in the face of all these newfangled vaporizers, the ssv continues to be a versatile heavy-hitter and I will miss using flowers with it. I think it's still a great investment for any vaporist.
gattosauro
Member
Ciao a tutti!
Been reading the forums for a while and just registered because I received my SSV last friday and I need a bit of help since I think there's something wrong in how I use it or in the unit itself
I'm trying to vape some hash (I think you'd call it bubble hash, don't have anything else at the moment), very similar to the one in this video with the difference that I used less material. I turn on the SSV at full power for a couple of minutes and then vape.
No matter the temp (even at max, anyway I tried different temps adjusting my breath in any way I could think of) the air arrives cold in my mouth (should it be so? I tried ecigs before and in that case it's kinda warm), when I exhale only just a bit of vapor is seen (and only if the knob is in the last quarter/half of its rotation), after some hits I feel the back of my throat itching (maybe the hash maybe the dry air) BUT I don't get stoned (I kept vaping and stirring for 1-2hours while plaing Sleeping Dogs).
The heater cover gets hot and is touching the screws on the bottom of the unit so it can't go down. The ceramic element glows and I tried to pull it up but it doesn't move further,maybe 3mm down, and I'm afraid to break something if I try to pull it more. In the 7thF video I see that it can touch the glass cover and then be moved down a tad with the poker but mine is not so loose (maybe the one with the clip is supposed to be like this?).
BTW I can see the hash melting as I inhale and after some time, if I poke it, it's all gooey (like in Paul's video). I also tried bending a spare screen and achieved something like the EQ Elbow mod but nothing much happened (I can see that's a very cool setting to keep the wand cleaner, will def improve it maybe with EQ screens).
I then inspected the hose, the wand and the HC and there are no holes nor cracks. Is it possible that I get too much "fresh" air from the connection between the HC and the wand itself? I took the HC from the unit and shut the base+carb hole with my fingers, matched it with the wand, sucked and I still got a lot of air so the joint between the two is not very tight (again I don't know if the STANDARD wand is supposed to be like this, I thought about this after seeing the ground glass version that I think won't let air pass - plus it would be kinda hands-free).
Yesteray I just rolled a joint with the supposed ABV and got high. It was a bit darker than before the SSV test, still soft and smelly so at least I didn't burn it (still, I used for the most time the max temp possible or a bit less).
Sorry for the long post but I'm a bit frustrated
I really hope to start vaping soon! I am thrilled at the idea of dropping combustion, also my brother (heavy smoker for 20+ years) was talking about quitting smoking cannabis because of health concerns regarding smoking and I talked to him about vapes, so he's now really interested in them too
Cheers.
Been reading the forums for a while and just registered because I received my SSV last friday and I need a bit of help since I think there's something wrong in how I use it or in the unit itself
I'm trying to vape some hash (I think you'd call it bubble hash, don't have anything else at the moment), very similar to the one in this video with the difference that I used less material. I turn on the SSV at full power for a couple of minutes and then vape.
No matter the temp (even at max, anyway I tried different temps adjusting my breath in any way I could think of) the air arrives cold in my mouth (should it be so? I tried ecigs before and in that case it's kinda warm), when I exhale only just a bit of vapor is seen (and only if the knob is in the last quarter/half of its rotation), after some hits I feel the back of my throat itching (maybe the hash maybe the dry air) BUT I don't get stoned (I kept vaping and stirring for 1-2hours while plaing Sleeping Dogs).
The heater cover gets hot and is touching the screws on the bottom of the unit so it can't go down. The ceramic element glows and I tried to pull it up but it doesn't move further,maybe 3mm down, and I'm afraid to break something if I try to pull it more. In the 7thF video I see that it can touch the glass cover and then be moved down a tad with the poker but mine is not so loose (maybe the one with the clip is supposed to be like this?).
BTW I can see the hash melting as I inhale and after some time, if I poke it, it's all gooey (like in Paul's video). I also tried bending a spare screen and achieved something like the EQ Elbow mod but nothing much happened (I can see that's a very cool setting to keep the wand cleaner, will def improve it maybe with EQ screens).
I then inspected the hose, the wand and the HC and there are no holes nor cracks. Is it possible that I get too much "fresh" air from the connection between the HC and the wand itself? I took the HC from the unit and shut the base+carb hole with my fingers, matched it with the wand, sucked and I still got a lot of air so the joint between the two is not very tight (again I don't know if the STANDARD wand is supposed to be like this, I thought about this after seeing the ground glass version that I think won't let air pass - plus it would be kinda hands-free).
Yesteray I just rolled a joint with the supposed ABV and got high. It was a bit darker than before the SSV test, still soft and smelly so at least I didn't burn it (still, I used for the most time the max temp possible or a bit less).
Sorry for the long post but I'm a bit frustrated
I really hope to start vaping soon! I am thrilled at the idea of dropping combustion, also my brother (heavy smoker for 20+ years) was talking about quitting smoking cannabis because of health concerns regarding smoking and I talked to him about vapes, so he's now really interested in them too Cheers.
grokit
well-worn member
The oil kit works very well, and the heating element is directly attached to the ti bowl. I just dabbed some sublimation with it, and found it to be a very pleasant experience with the dial @ 12 noon, then it cleaned itself on max for a few. So if I really want dabs to explode there is plenty of room to turn it up. The way I did it, it was much more efficient with the oil than the apollo's intake is.
I turned two sub hits into about six, this is a very cool setup. The only knock is that you have to be careful when you r & r the ti bowl, because the ceramic heating element is quite fragile. The bowl has to be installed after the heater cover so it's a somewhat delicate operation. I have a great tool for it though, some very tiny needlenose pliers because there's hardly any clearance.
I turned two sub hits into about six, this is a very cool setup. The only knock is that you have to be careful when you r & r the ti bowl, because the ceramic heating element is quite fragile. The bowl has to be installed after the heater cover so it's a somewhat delicate operation. I have a great tool for it though, some very tiny needlenose pliers because there's hardly any clearance.
gattosauro
Member
Well I read in different forums that people effectively use the wand with hash (i.e. the video I posted by tokinGLX), temp should not be a problem and with something like the EQ elbow mode I can't see how it would not work. Maybe someone who does it will chip in.
