Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

[shredder]

I don't generally use a dab rig, but have found those jars sit comfortably on top of my nano log vape. After a few minutes the glass warms up enough to liquefy any leftover wax. I rub a small piece of organic cotton around in there and clean up the last of it, then vape it through my gong adapter.

Plus I love the look of those thick-bottomed glass jars. Talk about mud flaps, my jars' got 'em.

I googled 6 ml lipless jars and when I seen them I realized I had some, lol. I bought ten somewhere a while back, but for some reason I settled on those screw top jars. I think they seemed thicker or something, but a lot of the problem is those threads that get so gummed up. That and the foam liner under the tops. I'll have to try the lipless on patients.

 

[Madri-Gal]

I googled 6 ml lipless jars and when I seen them I realized I had some, lol. I bought ten somewhere a while back, but for some reason I settled on those screw top jars. I think they seemed thicker or something, but a lot of the problem is those threads that get so gummed up. That and the foam liner under the tops. I'll have to try the lipless on patients.

Let us know how it goes, @shredder, if you don't mind. Need to order jars soon, and now I don't know what to get. Thank you, either way. See you in the funny papers.

 

[Hackerman]

I get zero results from searching 'lipless'. Are they called something else?

 

[Stu]

Plus I love the look of those thick-bottomed glass jars. Talk about mud flaps, my jars' got 'em.

 

[psychonaut]

Check ebottles.com there are lots of size glass concentrate jars with straight sides various price and quantity.

 

[Dangus]

For storage I like the PTFE squares from Terp Proof...think there's comparable products from oil slick as well.

 

[MegaMan2k]

Ya right, no longer complain, lol.

If you read my post, I've already switched to glass and they no likey. I'm looking at alternatives, not force feed them something they don't like. Theyre telling me they like the silicone better. I think glass is safer myself, but that doesn't solve the messiness. I know glass can be cleaned.

I'm looking for a third option.
If there is none I'll give them what they want, but also give them some dab jars and encourage their use. Not sure what else I can do.

I did read ur post m8
I just wouldnt say trying to share some info on why glass would be safer and easier to handle is the same as "force feeding", the idea is to make them want that glass by themself

U could serve on straight parchement if u want zero waste :-)

 

[miguelovic]

@Hackerman

No neck 6ml jar.

Nifty how that worked out.

You gotta link for those jars? I've been buying dab jars off amazon. Silicone as well from amazon, but those are coming from china.

https://m.dhgate.com/product/hot-food-grade-non-stick-dab-glass-jars-wax/415617831.html

50c/piece. You can specify clear lids only. Shipping is quick.

 

[Hackerman]

Thanks @miguelovic , just ordered some.

 

[btka]

Do someone have pictures of rosin under microscope? maybe different types of rosin (flower, bubble, dry sift, different temperatures and pressure...)

could not find anything...

 

[Hackerman]

What a fucking nightmare... has anyone considered marketing this shit as industrial adhesive? Fucking shit sticks to everything. Needs that Super Glue warning.... "Warning, bonds skin instantly". LMAO

I have been pressing for some time, now. And, I have pressed a dozen or so strains as well as sift and hash.

I NEVER get that waxy, easy to scoop stuff. Mine is ALWAYS super sticky. On rare occasion, I'll get a runny press but I let it sit out for a day and it gets sticky and easy to collect.

How do you get that 'waxy', 'buttery' texture?

I use DabPress plates usually set between 180F and 220F. I press down slowly until it gets a little tight and then I let it heat the load of 30 or 40 seconds. Then, press harder and it starts to flow. Wait for flow to stop (usually 15 to 30 seconds) and then (sometimes) a last press of maximum pressure (until it stops flowing).

Fucking shit is so sticky, it's a PITA to deal with. I would love to make some wax or butter.

Do someone have pictures of rosin under microscope? maybe different types of rosin (flower, bubble, dry sift, different temperatures and pressure...)

could not find anything...

I can do that. I'll snap a couple shots today and post them.

EDIT: Sorry, I may need to renig on that. I either sold my microscope or it's already packed (I'm moving). I did get some neat close-up shots from a cheapo digital scope I found. Not what you were looking for, I'm sure.

 

[Hackerman]

delete, please

 

[JCat]

What a fucking nightmare... has anyone considered marketing this shit as industrial adhesive? Fucking shit sticks to everything. Needs that Super Glue warning.... "Warning, bonds skin instantly". LMAO

I have been pressing for some time, now. And, I have pressed a dozen or so strains as well as sift and hash.

I NEVER get that waxy, easy to scoop stuff. Mine is ALWAYS super sticky. On rare occasion, I'll get a runny press but I let it sit out for a day and it gets sticky and easy to collect.

How do you get that 'waxy', 'buttery' texture?

I use DabPress plates usually set between 180F and 220F. I press down slowly until it gets a little tight and then I let it heat the load of 30 or 40 seconds. Then, press harder and it starts to flow. Wait for flow to stop (usually 15 to 30 seconds) and then (sometimes) a last press of maximum pressure (until it stops flowing).

Fucking shit is so sticky, it's a PITA to deal with. I would love to make some wax or butter.

2 major factors here I think ...

1) strain
2) temperature

Personally, I have found some strains are more sap like or runny or like shatter, however, as you lower the temp you get that more crumble budder texture; this varies quite a bit, and some strains I have will almost never budder. That being said, I like somewhere in between (ie. get the temp as low as possible for the strain while still able to maintain a stable consistency)

 

[hd_rider]

Fucking shit is so sticky, it's a PITA to deal with. I would love to make some wax or butter.

I had the exact same problem yesterday. I have a smaller press and squished four grams of some White Widow x Big Bud. It came out all gooey and stuck to every freaking thing it touched, except the parchment paper of course. I think I wasted a good 1/3 gram with it sticking to everything.

Pissed off and discouraged, I came here looking for help and help I found. Here's what I'm doing now:

(1) Immediately after pressing and collecting my rosin, I put my rosin tool in the freezer. After a couple of minutes, the rosin has hardened to the tool and it's just a matter of chipping / breaking off the rosin chunks. After pressing four grams of bud, I typically end up with a bunch of various sized pieces of rosin on my parchment paper.

(2) Next, I carefully take all of those rosin pieces and push them into a small pile on the parchment paper. I then take a heat gun (a hair dryer would probably work) and melt the pile of bits into one pool of melted rosin. I then place my piece of parchment paper / melted rosin back in the freezer for hardening.

(3) After a couple of minutes, I pull my parchment paper / hardened rosin back out of the freezer. Now what I do is carefully take that big chunk of rosin and while it's cold I start rolling it out like a single long noodle or piece of dough. I strive for about 1/8" in diameter. Once I have my noodle, I use a sharp knife to cut the noodle into small pieces about 1/4" long, the perfect size for an "individual serving."

Once I'm done making my servings, I just put them all in a small glass container (lined with parchment) and keep it in the fridge. Then it's just a matter of going to the fridge and grabbing a dab-a-doo when the need arises.

Hope this helps.

 

[nosmoking]

I would also add that the stage of life the bud itself is in will have a great effect. Older dryer stuff seems to be more sappy and fresher stuff (East Coast so fresh is still far from Harvest) often gives me more of a budder result.

Quality, temperature and pressure all seem to play a role too, but I limited those categories down to High Grade @ 185F with pressure applied slowly until the 7g puck was about .25mm thick over about a minute then I would let it sit for another 30-60seconds. Using this method consistently for monthes led me to find quality and stage of life seemed to be most important for budder like results.

 

[MonkeyTime]

What a fucking nightmare... has anyone considered marketing this shit as industrial adhesive? Fucking shit sticks to everything. Needs that Super Glue warning.... "Warning, bonds skin instantly". LMAO

I have been pressing for some time, now. And, I have pressed a dozen or so strains as well as sift and hash.

I NEVER get that waxy, easy to scoop stuff. Mine is ALWAYS super sticky. On rare occasion, I'll get a runny press but I let it sit out for a day and it gets sticky and easy to collect.

How do you get that 'waxy', 'buttery' texture?

I use DabPress plates usually set between 180F and 220F. I press down slowly until it gets a little tight and then I let it heat the load of 30 or 40 seconds. Then, press harder and it starts to flow. Wait for flow to stop (usually 15 to 30 seconds) and then (sometimes) a last press of maximum pressure (until it stops flowing).

Fucking shit is so sticky, it's a PITA to deal with. I would love to make some wax or butter.

I've also had great success with the silicone tipped tools, as long as its soft, the tips last quite a wwhile. It will hold, but releases nicely.

When it comes to collection, no more tools for me! Paper to paper right off the plates, most of the rosin will stick to one side. Working it a little gets it all to one sheet, then I form it on that same sheet and drop it into it's container to prepare for decarb.

 

[shredder]

What a fucking nightmare... has anyone considered marketing this shit as industrial adhesive? Fucking shit sticks to everything. Needs that Super Glue warning.... "Warning, bonds skin instantly". LMAO

I have been pressing for some time, now. And, I have pressed a dozen or so strains as well as sift and hash.

I NEVER get that waxy, easy to scoop stuff. Mine is ALWAYS super sticky. On rare occasion, I'll get a runny press but I let it sit out for a day and it gets sticky and easy to collect.

How do you get that 'waxy', 'buttery' texture?

I use DabPress plates usually set between 180F and 220F. I press down slowly until it gets a little tight and then I let it heat the load of 30 or 40 seconds. Then, press harder and it starts to flow. Wait for flow to stop (usually 15 to 30 seconds) and then (sometimes) a last press of maximum pressure (until it stops flowing).

Fucking shit is so sticky, it's a PITA to deal with. I would love to make some wax or butter.

Welcome to the brown thumb club! Soon all your tools will look like your thumbs. Keep some alcohol gel handy.

2 major factors here I think ...

1) strain
2) temperature

Personally, I have found some strains are more sap like or runny or like shatter, however, as you lower the temp you get that more crumble budder texture; this varies quite a bit, and some strains I have will almost never budder. That being said, I like somewhere in between (ie. get the temp as low as possible for the strain while still able to maintain a stable consistency)

Good post! I agree lowering the plate temps on runny rosin can help.

Maturity of the product being squeezed makes a difference as well. I don't get a lot of buttering when I squeeze older well cured buds. And if you squeeze too early you can get gooey rosin very hard to collect.

And I shoot for the lower temps when I press, like you do. Lower temps can lower yields but you can strike an acceptable balance with experience. As a caregiver I squeeze quite a bit (60+ grams in my freezer, lol) and I'm better at it than a couple years ago when I started.

Btw older buds generally make darker rosin, but it's not inferior. Sometimes it makes harsh terpy rosin squeezed early to smooth hitting, great tasting, but still hard hitting rosin on the same buds squeezed after they mature. Although I admit there is an certain appeal to blond buttered up rosin, lol.

 

[invertedisdead]

You can try to manipulate the stability with post-processing. Whipping, agitation, taffy-pulling, etc.
Also on the contrary, hotter temps can sometimes make more stable rosin, just depends on the starting material. Some strains will yield shatter in the 250F region.

I highly recommend wearing a pair of nitrile gloves when pressing rosin if you have a habit of getting it on your hands. The good rosin doctor @psychonaut got me on that train!

Realistically the rosin shouldn't really touch anything besides parchment, the collection tool, and its final glass jar resting place.

 

[psychonaut]

My current flower meds are mostly buddering up when left long enough. I press all my flower at 200F as it's a nice balance between yields and flavor. I've pressed the darker hued strains lower and it's lightened the color a little, but the rosin remains mostly a pull and snap consistency. Pressed between 1k-1.2k PSI at the bag.

All flower has been curing for 6 months, color has changed a little over the course of curing, not a whole lot. Buds weren't to my satisfaction until they hit the 4 week mark in cure, 6 weeks was better, hasn't lost anything as far as I can tell except for harshness compared to fresher.

White Widow presses out bronze, budders up after about 4 days, pull and snap until it budders.
Orange Hill Special presses out gold, budders up after 4-6 hours, sappy until it budders.
Pennywise presses out bronze and sappy and never budders up.
Strawnana Magic presses out bronze and sappy then turns to pull and snap, never budders up.
Swiss Cheese presses out gold, budders up after 2 days, sappy until it budders.

Everything stored in sealed glass jars at around 55-60F. I've not tried pressing those bronze strains lower than 180F, pretty much gave up trying to make them look pretty and will just hope I get my desired consistency on the next cultivars.

All the strains that budder up seem to be more potent, the sappier ones are about 2/3 as potent, I feel like those have a more complex cannabinoid profile, maybe CBD?

 

[Madri-Gal]

I picked up a freezer gel pack at the dollar store, and when I press I freeze my metal tools, then pull out the pack. The tools rest on the pack, and as soon as it's pressed I put the parchment with rosin on the gel pack, then press some more. The rosin has been much easier to deal with, and has gotten waxy at times, crumbly others. At worst, it's like managable rosin. I'm mostly pressing Chem Dawg, GG#4, Tutankhamom and Emperor Cookie Dough . The Chem Dawg and GG#4 can get runny to where it sinks into the paper if I don't use a cold pack. I imagine thus would work if you only had a bag of frozen peas, though I wouldn't speak for the peas.

 

[miguelovic]

Ringo, baby, ya wee specky bastard, I know you.

@MonkeyTime

I fucking love paper on paper. I can clean a pressed lb in less time than it takes to tool a few sheets clean. Wipe wipe mafuckin' wipe.

I try to explain it to people but no one bites. I am happy to see someone else do it.

 

[Madri-Gal]

You can try to manipulate the stability with post-processing. Whipping, agitation, taffy-pulling, etc.
Also on the contrary, hotter temps can sometimes make more stable rosin, just depends on the starting material. Some strains will yield shatter in the 250F region.

I highly recommend wearing a pair of nitrile gloves when pressing rosin if you have a habit of getting it on your hands. The good rosin doctor @psychonaut got me on that train!

Realistically the rosin shouldn't really touch anything besides parchment, the collection tool, and its final glass jar resting place.

100% agreement on the nitrile gloves. I thought everyone did this anyway. Keeps hand clean from rosin, and rosin clean from hands. I buy mine from Costo and it's $10 for 400 gloves. I use them when cleaning glass, trimming, making bubble hash or edibles. Thanks for the tip, @invertedisdead

 

[shredder]

My current flower meds are mostly buddering up when left long enough. I press all my flower at 200F as it's a nice balance between yields and flavor. I've pressed the darker hued strains lower and it's lightened the color a little, but the rosin remains mostly a pull and snap consistency. Pressed between 1k-1.2k PSI at the bag.

All flower has been curing for 6 months, color has changed a little over the course of curing, not a whole lot. Buds weren't to my satisfaction until they hit the 4 week mark in cure, 6 weeks was better, hasn't lost anything as far as I can tell except for harshness compared to fresher.

White Widow presses out bronze, budders up after about 4 days, pull and snap until it budders.
Orange Hill Special presses out gold, budders up after 4-6 hours, sappy until it budders.
Pennywise presses out bronze and sappy and never budders up.
Strawnana Magic presses out bronze and sappy then turns to pull and snap, never budders up.
Swiss Cheese presses out gold, budders up after 2 days, sappy until it budders.

Everything stored in sealed glass jars at around 55-60F. I've not tried pressing those bronze strains lower than 180F, pretty much gave up trying to make them look pretty and will just hope I get my desired consistency on the next cultivars.

All the strains that budder up seem to be more potent, the sappier ones are about 2/3 as potent, I feel like those have a more complex cannabinoid profile, maybe CBD?

My gorilla glue used to always be runny, (200F) then I tried squeezing at 190F. At that temp it firmed up enough to make collection a breeze. It doesn't butter up, and is very strong in effects and terpenes.
It always seems like you find exceptions.

Anyone squeezed 9# hammer yet?

Mine came out almost white, buttered instantly. After a day it turned yellowish. Very little taste, maybe slightly fruity. And crazy strong. A real head high, a brain scrambler. Never had one quite like it.

 

[anda1anda2]

Anyone squeezed 9# hammer yet?

Mine came out almost white, buttered instantly. After a day it turned yellowish. Very little taste, maybe slightly fruity. And crazy strong. A real head high, a brain scrambler. Never had one quite like it.

I pressed some Bruce Banner recently that looked awesome and was labeled at 31%, but pretty mild on flavor and odor.

It pressed super light colored butter and tasted kind of generically sweet, but it kicks my ass in a similar way - bit of a head trip.

I wondered if it was high thc/low terpenes?

 

[Madri-Gal]

I pressed some Bruce Banner recently that looked awesome and was labeled at 31%, but pretty mild on flavor and odor.

It pressed super light colored butter and tasted kind of generically sweet, but it kicks my ass in a similar way - bit of a head trip.

I wondered if it was high thc/low terpenes?

Might I ask at what temperature you pressed Bruce Banner? I have a jar here, and would love to crush a few nugs.