Discontinued RBT Splinter (All Versions)

[seki]

Haha yeah with 8 total splinters he even beats me! Although I also have four SplinterZ, but I only have one regular SplinterV2 ... And isn't it 4 Milaana you have @bossman?? I've got four too (plus OG beta with disconnected glass) though also three Zion (there was a fourth I gifted to a friend, one of the two that are actually betas) soooo call it a draw? I actually wish I had more still!

Do I win? I also have one more US custom wenge Z on loan to a friend not pictured, and technically I also own a Canary Mi2, but I think that one has been lost to USPS unfortunately.

 

[cybrguy]

Yeah, I'm only an amateur RBT collector, with only 1 Splinter and 2 Splinter Zs, 1 Milaana and a couple Zions, with one being a beta. I can't compete with you guys.

And ya, @seki so far you look to be the winner. So far.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Do I win? I also have one more US custom wenge Z on loan to a friend not pictured, and technically I also own a Canary Mi2, but I think that one has been lost to USPS unfortunately.

Oh man, I would kill for that canary Mi (did not know there were any 2's, is it the bottom cap or the whole thing in Canary??) but I promise I did not kill your mail person to take it... Seriously upsetting, I hope it turns up somehow someway, though it's already been a while? Also yeah you totally did trick out that Zion! A nice variety of wood here, I guess I will need to get a full family photo together at some point, huh?

 

[seki]

Oh man, I would kill for that canary Mi (did not know there were any 2's, is it the bottom cap or the whole thing in Canary??) but I promise I did not kill your mail person to take it... Seriously upsetting, I hope it turns up somehow someway, though it's already been a while? Also yeah you totally did trick out that Zion! A nice variety of wood here, I guess I will need to get a full family photo together at some point, huh?

I'm not completely giving up on it, but it has been some time. The case is still open with USPS so there's hope! All I have for now are these pics from the seller. And yes I think a family photo is in order. I don't think I recall ever seeing 3 Zions in a single collection before.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I'm not completely giving up on it, but it has been some time. The case is still open with USPS so there's hope! All I have for now are these pics from the seller. And yes I think a family photo is in order. I don't think I recall ever seeing 3 Zions in a single collection before.

Damn yeah I think I remember that now, that is such a gorgeous one, I really hope it turns up! Too good to be lost...

And here you go, from the Zion thread:

Alright I am shipping off my second Zion (early production body with thin front wall and some other rough bits, redesigned heater but no turbulator or any of the finalized newer parts/processes, it was sent with Ziggy's tuned hot/fast second coming and was tuned cold/slow for testing purposes) to an old friend who first got me into vaping with a Thermovape and created the monster you see before you... So I am finally getting some group family shots together with all four in their received order before the collection dwindles to a mere three:

Left to right we have Ziggy Sawdust (the OG redone with clear glass newer heater tuned super hot/fast with old beta body #4), then with a custom cut down smooth joint 18-14mm stem from JoDa is the artist formerly known as Zenon the Zequel who will soon be rechristened Zap BrainAgain I believe/hope, then after that is the finalized production model #69 with all the trimmings who will now be known as Zenon the Zequel proper with green glass just like my OG Zig but runs a little slow yet smooth with amazing vapor quality, then finally on the right end is the spalted capnand blue glass finalized model #150 running as it should for perfect controlled vapor across the dial with the appropriately sexy name Zsa Zsa Vapoor

The custom color stems you see here that I have also been meaning to share here for a while are from @mistvaporizer and his glass-working friend (check out the bubbler and 14mm stems they made too!) and they are an ideal I have been searching for ever since my early beta Zion days 2.5years ago... Love love love them!

The medium amber male to male has a 14mm tip and can fit loose in the storage slot (though its a little tall so not quite as secure as the clear one, it does fit RBT screens perfectly, unlike that one which can be a struggle as a cut down iso joint). The amber bent stem was imperfect but works perfectly for me, nice narrow mouthpiece and cool ergonomic shape, the angle smooths vapor well, but joint ID is a little wide so need wide RBT screens but they can fit mostly secure with a little glass rim as I like. The blue bent stem has a mouthpiece closer to stock but slightly narrower, still nice if not quite as nice as the amber, but it does have a normal joint ID and fits RBT screens perfectly secure with little glass rim, however it is so secure that I cannot get it out really since bent stem means no dowel to come from other end... So that one I just need to stay more on top of the cleaning, iso shaking the whole stem and rinsing with hot water. They all fit RBT vapes perfectly with the right 18.8/22mm size joints and are such a treat to use. Literally just like my color RBT stems only GonGed or bent making them even better! Expect to see more of them, likely in Zsa Zsa

From beta testing, the first two are rough cuts and from well before the actual production finally got rolling, after way back when I was one of the first to pre order at $150. The new one #69 off the production line I bought from an early pre order, friend of a member here who reached out to me (I had originally pre ordered a new one from RBT in the last batch at high cost but decided to switch it to an exotic Milaana and Splinter pre order after a snag, so jumped at the opportunity to grab one later at the same high cost here...) and since it was a little slow I sent it in to RBT. Of course it was working perfectly fine as all mine have been, tested in spec and was producing amazing vapor nevertheless. But when RBT sent it back to me he threw in a spare blue glass spalt cap, #150 one of the final Zions made, running more standard despite a rougher body than #69 (which really is superficially flawless). I imagine that one was originally intended for another zteam member who maybe has since moved on from herb/vapes and/or was impossible to get in contact with anymore (there were a few like that) as each member was to get a new finalized Zion to compliment their beta. The first five got them when you got yours the first time, but then we had that other big long pause after you and the other two first non zteamer users discovered new issues. Since my second unit (the one I just sent to my friend, that arrived along with revived anew OG beta Ziggy) was one of the first built with the production body, it was also quite rough in many ways as I've mentioned so it was more of a beta really. So all said and done I kind of ended up with two beta Zions for my initial purchase of one, then two final production units for the price of one

Edit: damn page 300, fitting that its a trip down memory lane too, these Zions tell a story and it is all posted here in this massive sacred tome

 

[Salvaged_Title_Robot]

Since everyone is showing their collection, Here's mine + my story!

I got my first Splinter v2 about 3 or 4 months ago from another user, and I had it sitting for a while because I couldn't find a mod until Scott from Vgoodiez helped me out with one. After that, I experimented a ton and learned a lot searching through here, and I found that I loved everything about it especially the taste, efficiency, and the customization of the settings and firmware. Soon after, I slowly built my collection by obsessively scouring Entexchange. I now have a Walnut U.S. Custom OG 4-hole (thin German glass), Splinter v2, PurpleHeart Z, Wenge Z, And Canarywood Z. These are the grails of my collection and I basically switch through each one everyday like I dreamed of doing when I only had one! lol

My Collection.

 

[FearAndLawyering]

Hmm well i don’t have any zions or canarywood Z.

https://imgur.com/a/9O88tpX

 

[vapviking]

That one might prove to be under powered for even the V2. This isn’t the best deal but here’s a better option, it’s pricier and comes with a tank, but looks like there’s a 15% off Father’s Day coupon included as well. You’d be happier with this, color screen so Red Panda compatible https://vapesourcing.com/wismec-sinuous-ravage230-with-gnome-evo-full-kit.html?sscid=61k5_pzqvi.

Element Vape has them in stock as well. The sale price on these when you can find them is half what these are going for. But they are in stock.

Thanks, I have a couple of Ravage 230's already, and a P80. I believe I paid less than 40 bucks each for them.
The one I linked is factory set up with temp control, sounded interesting.
Maybe a little underpowered, though settings I use with the other mods are under 40w.
Sometimes a built in battery has some appeal.

 

[CanikUser19]

Man, you all make my VAS life so much easier, and you all keep me from thinning the herd when I don’t really want to. When my wife asks why I need another vape, I can look her straight in the eye and say “because everyone on FC is doing it”. Brings out the kid again in this old man!

 

[Trackrat]

Ryan, Happy Father's Day. Thanks for creating all those little buggers that we enjoy playing with. Love you, brother

 

[bossman]

Wingardium leviosa!

 

[vapviking]

I recently got @bossman's profile for Red Panda and have used his V2 TC settings on my Ravage 230 with a Splinter V1+ mounted (it has the same internals as a V2).
First, thanks to @bossman for sharing the knowledge and helping so readily.

I have two or three points to make here, all having to do with these settings in this mod.

I tried the V2 settings as-loaded, not locking resistance, TCR 135, temp setting 300. The result was near-combustion on the first (10 second) hit, so I knew there would be tweaking.
(The previous profile for TC I was using was made by me using a lot of trial and error, but I always still needed to "modulate" i.e., back off on the power before combusting like with a Milaana, so bossman's seemed similar to that...)

Yesterday, after having tweaked a couple of settings I had several very pleasant bowls, not needing to modulate the power.

The obvious was the heat setting. Unfortunately I did not do these tweaks incrementally, checking progress with each. I kinda reverted to one of my older settings, plus tweaked the heat.

On the topic of "P-I Regulator". To be clear, I have no idea wtf it is, but a member a while back suggested I change the "P-I Regulator" value, (next to mode, Temp Control, click setup). For reasons idk, I have checked the box to enable the PI regulator, accepting the default settings. Then I looked at the Performance Monitor's live read-out.
Without P-I enabled, some measurements (particularly temp) were spiking erratically up to very high values, then dropping back to near "set temp".
With P-I enabled, no spikes, all the numbers stay near their "set" range.

I have left the P-I Regulator enabled.
Left resistance unlocked.

Temp setting. I reduced from 300 to 250, stepping to 280. I'm getting a good cloud on the first hit, lots more thick ones and near zero hot-spot. I tend to rotate the stem mindlessly, so that likely helps.

Sorry to @bossman for not just sticking with his profile; I think maybe I should have tried just reducing set temperature from the 300 down to 250, but that would have been too easy...

Can anyone offer a brief explanation of this "P-I regulator" thing? Whatever it is, it seems to work?

 

[KeroZen]

You need to enable PI(D) regulator if you want smooth and precise temperature control. When disabled (default) you only get a bang/bang regulator.

If you want an analogy: the bang regulator would be trying to dim your bedroom lamp just by frantically clicking the on/off switch like a deranged man. While the PID regulator would be like using the dimmer slider on your halogen to smoothly change the output power.

 

[bossman]

Temp setting. I reduced from 300 to 250, stepping to 280. I'm getting a good cloud on the first hit, lots more thick ones and near zero hot-spot. I tend to rotate the stem mindlessly, so that likely helps.

F or C? Those temps sound unusual to me. I have all my Red Panda mods switched to Celsius just to make for less clicking through my preferred temp stepping range. I mostly go from around 170° to 210°C. When I was still using Fahrenheit I stepped from maybe 350 to 400°.

One thing that would risk combustion would be using the Z profile for the V1/2 by mistake, so make sure you're just using the Splinter profile with lower numbers. You can also try lowering the max wattage in TC. I've settled on TCR 165, 36W max for my V2s but they don't get nearly as much use as my Zs and I recall only having a 32W max on some of my old myevic/arctic fox mods.

I suppose I should try enabling PID for the reasons @KeroZen suggests, it's just that all my Zs work really well as is. I've emailed that Red Panda profile to a bunch of folks at this point, I wonder why it'd be so erratic for you out of the gate.

 

[FearAndLawyering]

> splinter acting erratic

PSA - make sure the screw on the 510 connector is tight

 

[vapviking]

F or C? Those temps sound unusual to me. I have all my Red Panda mods switched to Celsius just to make for less clicking through my preferred temp stepping range. I mostly go from around 170° to 210°C. When I was still using Fahrenheit I stepped from maybe 350 to 400°.

One thing that would risk combustion would be using the Z profile for the V1/2 by mistake, so make sure you're just using the Splinter profile with lower numbers. You can also try lowering the max wattage in TC. I've settled on TCR 165, 36W max for my V2s but they don't get nearly as much use as my Zs and I recall only having a 32W max on some of my old myevic/arctic fox mods.

I suppose I should try enabling PID for the reasons @KeroZen suggests, it's just that all my Zs work really well as is. I've emailed that Red Panda profile to a bunch of folks at this point, I wonder why it'd be so erratic for you out of the gate.

It's F, and yeah, these temp numbers sound unusual to me as well.
Your temp numbers sound normal, same as I would see in other portable vapes.

Yes, take a look at the Monitor and you can see the numbers level off with P-I enabled.

In fairness, it is very possible I had your Z profile cued up. "I'm old!" (to quote Uncle Leo), so imma go back and reload to try this all again. After all, it's for science.

Edit;
I'm winding up at the same place (except I changed from F to C readout).
Using @bossman v2 settings was leading to combustion in my case. I did enable and lock P-I, and after trying unlocked resistance, have now locked cold resistance at .247.
It seems the range of use for goldilocks, given this profile, is far reduced temp setting. Initial sweet spot looks like 120C to 135C. Again, these seem odd, but this is what's giving good result atm. At 140C I got some charring.
Weird.

 

[NimChimpsky]

Speaking of odd issues with Splinter / RP. My SplinterV2 cold resistance on my Lost Vape Grus (with AF) is ~0.24 ohm. However, with the same Splinter, the cold resistance on my Ravage230 (with RP) is ~0.3 ohm. Is it normal for different mods to have different resistance like this for the splinter?

 

[bossman]

It's F, and yeah, these temp numbers sound unusual to me as well.
Your temp numbers sound normal, same as I would see in other portable vapes.

Yes, take a look at the Monitor and you can see the numbers level off with P-I enabled.

In fairness, it is very possible I had your Z profile cued up. "I'm old!" (to quote Uncle Leo), so imma go back and reload to try this all again. After all, it's for science.

Yeah, the Z profile has a 50W max and I could totally see that overheating a V1+. I'd double check it's the regular Splinter profile and then maybe nudge the max wattage down from 36 to 32W or something if you still need to tame it some.

Speaking of odd issues with Splinter / RP. My SplinterV2 cold resistance on my Lost Vape Grus (with AF) is ~0.24 ohm. However, with the same Splinter, the cold resistance on my Ravage230 (with RP) is ~0.3 ohm. Is it normal for different mods to have different resistance like this for the splinter?

I do think my Red Panda Z mods might read a bit higher but I've sold or gifted all my myevic/Arctic Fox mods so I can't be sure. And really one of my favorite things about Red Panda on the Ravage and Espion is that I can trust it to manage resistance and never need to lock, check, or adjust it. Sorry not to be more helpful. Does it work well apart from the higher cold resistance reading?

 

[NimChimpsky]

I do think my Red Panda Z mods might read a bit higher but I've sold or gifted all my myevic/Arctic Fox mods so I can't be sure. And really one of my favorite things about Red Panda on the Ravage and Espion is that I can trust it to manage resistance and never need to lock, check, or adjust it. Sorry not to be more helpful. Does it work well apart from the higher cold resistance reading?

It does work very well indeed! Just as well as the Grus, if not better considering 2 batteries over 1. Thanks again for the RP presets! I lowered the TCR to 125 but otherwise kept the same settings. Ive used Splinter in TCR mode more than any other vape since it arrived. I fucking love it.

 

[Shit Snacks]

For what it's worth, I also was not able to use the standard bossman settings setting up my Splinter ZV, the ZV1 was okay at first, but then when I got ZV2 the same settings were not working properly, also setting up on a different ravage and an espeon, I did a whole long post about it here, ultimately each one ended up having a pretty different resistance value, so I tweaked those manually and lock them... The results are pretty consistent now, though it is possible to scorch despite temp settings depending on which splinter and mod, I understand them both now well enough to control, I use auto fire and click it off at the right moment, turning the splinter as I hit it, typically with splinter upside down on a hook or waterpiece. I use a different temperature range between the two setups, one is the flavor chaser and one is the power hitter, both are quite capable though!

 

[Bazinga]

With all the latest and greatest devices that have come to market, and I bought, I haven't used my Splinter Z in over a year. Last night I retrieved it from storage . Damn was it nice. It is now back in rotation. It's so simple. yet effective. Cleaning couldn't be any easier. I have not paid much, if any attention, to this thread. Now that I re-appreciate the Splinter I would like to get another. It appears that RBT in one form or another is back in business? Please tell me this is true !!!!

 

[Shit Snacks]

With all the latest and greatest devices that have come to market, and I bought, I haven't used my Splinter Z in over a year. Last night I retrieved it from storage . Damn was it nice. It is now back in rotation. It's so simple. yet effective. Cleaning couldn't be any easier. I have not paid much, if any attention, to this thread. Now that I re-appreciate the Splinter I would like to get another. It appears that RBT in one form or another is back in business? Please tell me this is true !!!!

Yep, currently you can email Leerbtmd @gmail, they have Splinter V2 and Milaana available

 

[Bazinga]

Holy Merde !! Thanks !!!

 

[buckhakeesah]

The Z has been getting it's fair share of use since my Bowle went down. Fills that gap really well. Good to hear RBT and splinter is back.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Well, back for the last time:

The Splinter and Milaana that are in stock (and now being finished, including some exotics and art customs for auction on IG) are the final ones, aside from more Uncle Mark customs, then we've got ZionM followed by Ryan's customer driven design future non-company innovations!