Discontinued Purple-Days Vaporizer

[KeepCalm]

KeepCalm, that is an excellent photo.

Seems like the PD would be a big hit among (licensed ) medical mj users. Do you guys bring ever bring it to the dispensary?

I use a delivery service to keep things discrete, but that is a great idea! It would be easy to keep a bunch of vapor tubes sanitary so each member could have a clean one.

 

[SpiralArchitect]

Rats. No PD today. Monday. *crosses fingers*

Unless the Mailman didn't leave it on the doorstep because their was 3 inches of snow..... *shrug* hehe, yup, you heard it , first snowfall!

 

[SpiralArchitect]

It has arrived! It's warming up now.

I took some pictures and stuff. I'll post them later today along with how I feel about the PD. So far it looks pretty sweet.

BTW; thanks for the munchies Tom & Pam. I'mma make that hot cocoa later today. You two are too kind.

 

[KeepCalm]

It has arrived!
BTW; thanks for the munchies Tom & Pam. I'mma make that hot cocoa later today. You two are too kind.

Did you get a moonstone too?

 

[Clear_Dome]

It has arrived! It's warming up now.

I took some pictures and stuff. I'll post them later today along with how I feel about the PD. So far it looks pretty sweet.

BTW; thanks for the munchies Tom & Pam. I'mma make that hot cocoa later today. You two are too kind.

cooooolll I wanna see it !!!NOWW

 

[SpiralArchitect]

hehe, OK. This will have to tide you off for now. The baby is still wrapped up.... I'll expose her beauty later today.....



And yup, came with 2 moonstones.

I'm eating the chips now. Good stuff.

//edit 12:16

Okay, I have been playing around with it for a while. I am high, but I can't seem to get any visible vapor. I did once but that was one hit. I'll have to keep experimenting. I really like how it feels in my hand, and I can taste the vapor really well.

Only one thing I am puzzled about, is that it makes a loud whistling sound when ever I inhale. Does it do this to anyone else? I switched to another tube and it doesn't make that sound anymore it seems.

 

[vaporcloud]

The PD wasn't an instant success for me either Spiral. I went from a box vape to the PD and it took me 3 days until I was happy with how I was hitting it. Just like you first time there was no visible vapor.

Biggest thing for me was to slow down my draw speed. I timed myself the other day and most standard draws for me take between 15-20 seconds. The slower the better ... so I go for a very light whistling sound

Keep at it bro you'll get the hang of it.

 

[KeepCalm]

I wonder if experience with other vapes is a factor? The first time I hit my PD was the first time I've used any vaporizer and I blew out a huge cloud. It's been nonstop since. Edit - mine whistles too, but not very loud.

 

[stonemonkey55]

I think you hit the nail on the head. If you are used to other ways of inhaling with other vaporizers, the PD inhalation is quite different. Now that I have had a week or so with the PD, the inhalation process is very second nature. Like the other posters in this forum have mentioned, slow and steady is the way to go. If I hear the whistling, then I tell myself to slow down. The method I like to use best now is a few mini gulps (like drinking from a straw) to get the vapor going, then the super long and steady inhale. The vapor that comes out is a ridiculous amount for the herb that you put in. Usually, I might have one mini puff to go after that routine. Oh yea, I am a firm believer in the straw technique for loading the stem and then packing down the material just a tad afterwards to make sure nothing is coming in contact with the steel spacer. Good luck!

 

[SpiralArchitect]

If I hear the whistling, then I tell myself to slow down.

I'll have to keep this in mind. Thanks for the pointers guys.

And yes, I am use to the VaporWarez, my draws aren't as slow as they are with the PD but I'm starting to get a better hang of the device. I think my initial problem was too much herb.

And now, the unveiling.....



Sexy......

 

[DigitalDavinci]

I'd try the useing of a small "ball" of bud (since I've seen the type of bud you're putting in there) Take a couple of old pipe style draws, like when you were trying to get the cherry started. Until you start to see a bit of vapor leave your mouth. Then start the slow draw like everyone has said. The whistle is how I tell if I'm hitting it right, or if my tubes are too clogged. I try to make the whistlew as faint as possible. Almost no existant. Not too sure but I think the whistle is comming from the slight passage for air around where the stem meets the heat exchanger. Once you get a nice size hit...and you'll feel it...take one more, crush the herb in your hand, and suck straw the herb back into the stem. You should get atleast one more monster hit. If not 2!

Also I've found over the weekend that the PD herb is still useable, and useing your method of lowering tolorances...I vape the PD duff with the VG. Works great. (At least I think it does. I'll get the hang of the VG soon I hope.)

I was a little disappointed at first to be honest, but I came to find out it was user error. Now I couldn't imagine giving the PD up. Since I've figured her out...I haven't combusted in a couple of weeks, and I don't intent to combust with her around ever again.

DD

Nice PD wood SA! SHE"S A BEAUTY!

 

[vaporcloud]

Also I've found over the weekend that the PD herb is still useable,

Me too ... very usable. Even a re-grind will go back thru the PD for one more nice hit. I save the PD duff and re-use it on a higher temp through my box vape. No nice taste but nothing foul either and still plenty of effect.

I finished the last bit of ABV last night from an ounce purchased 23 days ago. Thats at least 20% longer than I'd expect one to last ... and that was with a 8 days annual leave factored in ... and I consume at least 50% more on my days off.

But sadly it also means I am now dry

But thankfully I have put in an order for a refill which should only take a couple of days

 

[DigitalDavinci]

Good luck VC. I hope you don't have to go too long without the MJ. I never though of regrinding the herb. Don't you crush the bud and rehit it? Do you still regrind the crushed bud, or is it already too fine? I've been useing the VG for my PD duff, and it works ok for the need of a higher temp. I have still come to the conclusion that without a major breakthrough with the VG...I'm going to sell it and get DBV. That will give me the temp to reuse the PD duff, and give me a heavy hitter for company/bad days/good days .

Sadly it takes my portable capabilities down to an area that has an outlet for my PD. Still...I can't say I see a portable unit with materials I trust, that has been around long enough to test time, and/or has a good company reputation for me to purchase right now. I think if I'm out-and-about, then a good old fasioned spliff will be the way for me. Until someone can come up with a vape the meets my previous criteria. IMO of course.

Good luck bro. Here's to GREENER pastures ,

DD

PS: Chillin to your tunes again. Lovin' the Kiwi vibes man

 

[partially veiled]

That's some sexy wood you've got there Spiral.

Haha ewww, but really: that PD is seriously sleek. The Tea Tree is beautiful stuff, right?? You should take a shot of the top of the PD (looking down into the SS cap)--I find that's where the most interesting grain patterns are visible on mine. I hope you're starting to get the hang of it; it took me a few days but now it's like riding a bicycle...I don't know how it ever didn't feel natural, it feels so damned natural in my hands right now...

SM55 you're using the straw method to load now, are you? That's what I use as well, and I find it works wonders. The real trick is to inhale softer than you would normally inhale for a hit--doing this seems to not pack too much bud in the bowl and leave enough space to take good, unrestricted hits. So my method is normally to gently suck up some pre-grind, tamp it down with my finger (all I ever do is tap the top of the bowl a few times with my pointer finger...just to settle everything into place/knock any excess away from the top) and then I insert the tube into the cap, hold it there for just a few seconds to let everything get nice and warm, and start hitting it, nice and soft.

The "whistling" sound is indeed a good indicator...lots of people have mentioned this, and somewhere on this forum vapor cloud was saying it reminded him of wind blowing under the crack of a closed door--or something like that. That's a great description, because that's where you want to stop. I find my best hits come from a slow, steady draw...hard enough that you can begin to hear that whistle, ever so softly. If you hit it harder it will get louder, but JUST as it begins to whistle seems to be a really, really sweet spot (for me at least). You can hit the PD all sorts of ways (I always hit it HARD to finish off a bowl, and I still get vapor...) but there seems to be a concensus here that hititng soft and slow yeilds the best results. I certainly feel that way.

This is turning into quite the group we've got going here, no? Tom and Pam, look at what you've started!! Oddly enough, I'm just coming into my own with my PD again. When the SSV arrived it was so flashy and had such a huge bowl capacity (relative to the PD) that it was really stealing the show for a while...my usage (in terms of weight vaped) was probably about 70% SSV and 30% PD. The newness and flashiness of that machine is starting to wear off...and while I don't want to send the wrong message (I DO love my SSV, and wouldn't trade it for any other whip vape at the moment), I will say that the PD has been seeing me more and more these days...I find it hard to rationalize, so I'm not going to claim that this is ANYTHING but subjective testimony, but I've been getting higher with WAY less in my PD than I was with vaping a lot more in my SSV...and the taste...I have the tendency to vape on a higher temp with the SSV and it never tastes as good as the PD; the PD is just right on every time. So I guess what I'm saying is max and vtac were not kidding when the started saying this thing can contend with the SSV and the like (SM55 I'm sure you can attest to this as well): it may not be able to do the same things as those units, but as far as creating absolute quality vapor...I don't know, I'm really leaning towards the PD as my first choice these days. The SSV still gets the skank weed, and I pull it out every other evening or so for a few nice fat rips...but realistically, I'm probably at about 85% - 90% PD usage these days.

Don't know why I felt compelled to write that out, but it is very true. I am so happy I have one of these units; I'm glad I got the whip unit as well, so I have that and know what that's about, but it really has made me realize just how special the PD is...those of us who have one are probably all well aware of that special stature! Right now there is NOTHING on my list of indulgences which ranks higher than high quality bud run through my PD...vapor heaven.

Ah yes, and I've been thinking of some experiements. I think I'm going to pick up a beer cozy soon and see what that does. Obviously it should retain more heat, so we'll see. I don't think the PD needs this (at all), I'm just curious and I always love to try new shit. So that might be fun. SM55, speaking of experiments...that's a pretty snazzy filtration/cooling set up you've got going there (nice 7th Floor piece, as well ). You MUST have a sensitive throat though. Maybe it's not so bad: I'm a horrible judge because I have lungs of steel...BUT...I can not imagine ever needing to cool the PD vapor. Despite the stem being so short I find that the vapor is a comfortable temperature, and I never get irritated from using my PD unless its for extremely extended periods of time. That system does look really cool though, and if it makes the PD more enjoyable for you, then hey it's all good my brother. I'm just happy to see so many people turning on to this beautiful vaporizer.

 

[max]

I save the PD duff and re-use it on a higher temp through my box vape.

Me too. Mine goes in the Surfer the 2nd time around. And if I don't feel like uping the heat when vaping fresh in the SSV, I'll save that and put it back through too. It's like eating leftovers from a good meal. Not as good as it was fresh, but filling and too good to throw out.

 

[vaporcloud]

Chillin to your tunes again. Lovin' the Kiwi vibes man

thanks DD ... jammed with the band yesterday and 'The Dunga Classic' sounds mean with a full band set up

I never though of regrinding the herb. Don't you crush the bud and rehit it? Do you still regrind the crushed bud, or is it already too fine?

I actually don't regrind as such, I just crush the plugs and reload the PD stem. Most of the time my product is dry enough so I don't have to do the hit / crush / re-hit routine. I just hit a freshly pack stem 3-5 times and blow the plug into the small bag supplied with the purple-days. Only if the weed is to tacky to grind up, then I'll just roll-up a piece of bud and do the hit / crush / re-hit thing.

Most of the time here we get buds that are not quite dry enough for the PD but its not a problem for me as I store my herb in an old tabacco tin and after a day or two of sitting in there the herb loses its initial 'plastic-bag' sweaty dampness and gets pretty much perfect for the PD. I only store in air tight containers when I have a few ounces at once.

And I like the DBV / PD combo. Would be my duo of choice but I am refraining from importing another vape. The PD was different because I am able to deal directly with the maker so if I ever needed to send my PD back (unlikely) Tom and I can work something out together. Dealing with a bigger company like the 7th floor, vaporwarez or vaporbrothers just seems like to much of a headache with international postage, customs both ways and our exchange rate just hitting .US 54cents per 1 kiwi dollar.

 

[stickstones]

DD -- I can't stand for you giving up on the VG. We gotta figure this out because it is becoming my vaporizer of choice!

I used it tonight, thinking of you,and I thought "You should err on the side of not getting hot enough. Don't even let the flame go into the upper bowl. You may have to take more hits than normal, but you won't combust. Combustion in this unit is plain and simple...your flame is too far in the bowl. Start with this technique and gradually get the flame closer until you combust. Then you will know how close you can get. Keep it in the sweetspot."

Sorry for posting this in the PD thread, but I saw DD mentioning it here.

 

[Purple-Days]

Of course these guys have hit the high points, draw speed is an important factor.

KeepCalm seems to have hit it right down the middle, first time. Glad to have you in the family KC.

Like PV said, "like riding a bicycle...I don't know how it ever didn't feel natural". It's hard to remember but our first A-zap experience seemed to take a few days to get the hang of. Now the whole thing requires almost no thought.

Packing is another important factor and the soda-straw method seems best to start with.

On the whistle... It is an indicator as mentioned... 12 of those 60 radiating fins sits directly below that top disc, and the two air inlet holes, on either side of the heat exchanger tube. The air entering and making the quick turn and the turbulence from the fins makes that noise.

The A-zap had six air entry holes and a very simple cylindrical HE mass. I knew we needed better, and one way to improve was to slow the air flow then expose it to more metal surface area via the fins.

Several prototype heat exchangers narrowed the design down. One hole was too restricted. Three was too many. Me and Goldilocks settled on two, just right for us... and it whistles (a little when the draw speed is just right).

PV the can coozie will bump the temp a little. So interesting to hear where the road has taken you. Good to see you back.

On the 'moonstones'. Those are agates and jade pebbles that Pammy likes to look for on the beach. The cocoa is a bit of padding that we think is a bit nicer than bubble wrap. The chips serve the same purpose in your larger package Spiral.

Oh yeah get him on track with that VG, I think if I still hiked it would be my portable vape of choice, sticks.

 

[DigitalDavinci]

Stickstones...just moved the VG conversation to the VG thread. Wanted to let you know. I'm going to figure this thing out if it kills me. OR drives me nuts...whichever comes first. lol

DD

 

[SpiralArchitect]

^
I'll have to write up some of my tips too. I love the thing. Vaped out of it with some friends for their first time a while ago, they also loved it. We'll make you get the hang of it!

Oh and I am making the hot cocoa right now. I got some weed that is ground up and has been sitting out to get nice and dry and crispy. I think the more dry/brittle the better it seems to hit. I got a movie ready (Event Horizon) and I am gonna have a mad-session.

 

[DigitalDavinci]

Enjoy your new PD man. Just like a woman...you got to learn how she likes you to put your lips on her before the fun can really start. Enjoy the movie...nerver saw that one.

See...you and your friends are the reason I'm almost too embarased to keep the damn pipe. If noobies, and someone that got their VG weeks after myself can have it mastered...well then maybe it isn't for everyone (myself only I guess). We'll see. Too tired to care right now. I'm sober and have the wonderful taste of burnt popcorn in my mouth. F@#K IT for today. Tomorrow is another day to fight the fight.

DD

 

[Hennessy1414]

what if i give you an exotic wood to use.....like this
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/ebony, pale moon.htm

shit would be too ill.

TO EVERYONE: HOW DOES THIS UNIT COMPARE TO THE EXTREME VAPORIZER?

 

[DigitalDavinci]

Pale moon is a beautiful wood. I've never heard or seen it before. Thanks for that...nature is awesome. As for the Extreme, SM55 and StickStones will be your best to anwser, for they have (had) both.

DD

 

[Purple-Days]

Sorry, Hennessy1414, ebonies are too dense and will conduct the heat away from the core and produce a lower vapor temperature. They still work, but are at the lower end of the vapor zone.

Hardwoods with a medium weight work best because of their ability to insulate, rather than conduct heat.

We prefer not to use endangered woods, but it is your choice, choosing renewable and sustainable woods fits our vision better. And choosing a wood with the right SG is best considered first.

 

[Hennessy1414]

Sorry, Hennessy1414, ebonies are too dense and will conduct the heat away from the core and produce a lower vapor temperature. They still work, but are at the lower end of the vapor zone.

Hardwoods with a medium weight work best because of their ability to insulate, rather than conduct heat.

We prefer not to use endangered woods, but it is your choice, choosing renewable and sustainable woods fits our vision better. And choosing a wood with the right SG is best considered first.

wow man can i take a side note and say that you are truly fucking amazing! i mean you saw flaws and problems with the way other vaporizers worked at the time and said,"fuck this im gonna make something better and make some scrill on the side while enjoying working for myself everyday...and the chronic!"
like seriously you are the mirror image of an idol!

anyways i was looking at your site for the wood and the setup confuses me. can you give me a list of the wood available. also whats the most wood usually bought for the vape unit?

love your knowledge of wood and how ur world works! im myself, one day, going to move to canada and become a caregiver for medi patients growing rooms and rooms full of plants.......god my absolute DREAM!