O-G-Reg

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5days out

1. First couple of days
Sinking feeling -my old hacked pax 2might be better than this -

now not so - plenty rocks vs pax 2 in all respects besides flavor. Now flavor is personal but with my mod pax 2sends out low air resistance dense big flavorful while clouds. Not the plenty. But it wows the head and might be more economical too.

I tried plenty in the following modes. In the following order.

Reducer no capsule -disappointing
Herb all over the place

Reducer with capsule -loose pach-disappointing

0.2 gm with abv layered on top to fill chamber - finally start to appreciate it s bit but still second to the pax

Full pack 1-1.2gm herb -got around 10-12 sessions but the last few sessions you are just waiting for the bowl to finish

Reducer -packed firm w 0. 2gm -first time it outperformed pax 2 wrt head high/economy -but marginally


0.2 gm in full chamber with liquid pad cover ( for comparison to br accurate I packed both pax 2snd full chamber with s similarly packed capsule and then inverted ) - wow -getting 3sessiond At 9-10

Waiting for small size liquid pad to try 1/2 capsule .
With the Reducer no capsule method its 100% essential to nipple the top screen downwards to keep the herb inside. Prior to doing this i did not get good results either. Nippled it once, never had an issue.

NIPPLE
 

ChooChooCharlie

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Nipples !!


Wendy can't decide. Oh yeah. Oh no. For-Next Loop. 1980, witnessed her performance-art at a dive bar in Dover, NJ. She preferred black electrical tape when I saw her.

Go to your local hardware store and find a 5/8 inch washer. Make that nipple. Enjoy that nipple. Leave that nippled screen installed even for full loads, no switching required
 

Mrb58

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micro-dosing experiments on the plenty -part two

Tried using around 0.1 gm on the plenty large chamber with reducer-meh!!! 1.75 sessions 1st to 9-10 second petered out to 6-7 maybe. So looks like in large chamber better put minimum 0.2.

Still waiting for reducing cap for liquids magazine ( w small liquid pads)

In the meanwhile - reducing capsile filled 1/3 fresh herb &2/3 abv . Amazing best guess 0.05-0.075 g. To get to couch lock. Session lasted around 40-45 min. Fine to Med grind firm but not pill wrt the pack. Medium dry. Now that is extraction.
Plenty got plenty hot but NO combustion. I vaped till the herb would give no more nectar. Essentially vaped till I couldn’t detect any vapor in my exhale with my iPhone light.

In the meanwhile did my first clean of the “whip” by immersing it in a pickle jar filled with iso, for several hours. Iso nicely discolored with 4-5 days worth of deposit. Plan to keep reusing this for cleaning and then evaporate the iso off to see what I get

If roughly s quarter of the thc gets deposited in the collection path-this should be substantive and fairly effortless
 

Mrb58

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micro-dosing experiments on the plenty -part two

Tried using around 0.1 gm on the plenty large chamber with reducer-meh!!! 1.75 sessions 1st to 9-10 second petered out to 6-7 maybe. So looks like in large chamber better put minimum 0.2.

Still waiting for reducing cap for liquids magazine ( w small liquid pads)

In the meanwhile - red cap filled 1/3 fresh herb &2/3 abc. Amazing best guess 0.05-0.075 g. To get to couch lock. Session lasted around 40-45 min. Fine yo Med grind firm but not pill pack
 

ChooChooCharlie

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Sick Vape

Solar Dabs
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0147286

so what this is saying is that while the V ; P ; Solo give 58 ; 67; and 83 % recovery of THC in vapor
the fractionation is really interesting and has implications
residue ( ABV ) contains 15 ; 2 and 2 of THC
but the device itself ( the cooling coil in the case of P) contains 2; 24 and 18 % of the total THC

Very interesting paper. Good data.
They only used 0.05g of weed in the plenty filling chamber (probably the big one) for their test. :o



I have an early plenty that could get a little hotter so i thought I open it to see if i can change something.
plenty.jpg

You can see the bimetal element. You can also see that, I think, it is not a good idea to operate it prolonged in upside down position. I do put it sometimes upside down on a bong, waterpipe.

Well my technical knowledge is not enough to be able to change temperature or the bimetal thing, so I closed it again.
Maybe the picture is interesting for some of you.

Plenty is still my vapo number one :nod:
 

Sick Vape

Solar Dabs
If you put it upside down the hot air escaping from the heat element goes towards those 2 white cables and the heater indicator light. I guess it is not a good idea. This area is not meant to be heated.

I think I read somewhere of someone having a problem with an upside down Plenty, but cannot find at the moment.

I just put it on the bong take a draw and take it off at the end of the draw. So not much heat should go towards those white cables.
 

Some-new-user

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@ataxian I'll have to double check my plenty but as far as I remember these units are dedicated to the region/voltage

Do not plug your 110v plenty in to a European 230v outlet. At the best you will hear a pop/bang followed by deep regret and a faulty plenty. At worst you may cause fire and or further damage.

There are possibly ways around this - a step-down transformer may help (230 to 110v) but I'm not sure if it's recommended to use these with ANY vape especially S&B products - they have a disclaimer in the manuals regarding extension cords and outlets.

PLEASE PLAY IT SAFE AND DO NOT USE YOUR VAPORIZER OUTSIDE ITS INTENDED COUNTRY.


I'm going to go double check my plenty now some new electronics are made with switching power supplies that CAN handle this but from memory the plenty is dedicated to its intended country/voltage.

I'll be able to tell you for definite in a short while and will edit this post to update

*EDIT - 100% NO! My plenty is made for 220-240 Volts which covers Europe and some other territories. Your plenty which is compatible with 110 Volts will definitely be damaged by plugging it into an outlet in France. Save yourself a lot of heartache and trouble and find an alternative.
 
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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Yes, should be fine then.

If it works with your plenty at the moment then it will work in any 12 volt vehicle outlet - you need to be careful with wattage though. make sure your inverter is capable of handling more watts than your vape.

Have a good time
I didn’t have CANNABIS until 1970 = we grew it 2.
We did it 4 fun!
Now 2 MEDICATED properly!

Thank U 4 helping!

I will try my PLENTY with a car charger & if it work’s?
 

Old Toker

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Well my technical knowledge is not enough to be able to change temperature or the bimetal thing, so I closed it again.
Maybe the picture is interesting for some of you.
Very informative. Thanks!
With my technical knowledge....if I didn't break it taking it apart.....I'd still never get it back together correctly and probably have to use it duct/electrical taped together. Thanks again for the photo.
 

LesPlenty

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Absolutely NOT
I read somewhere that a user had trouble combusting herb on 5 and above, turned out they were using a 110v unit on a 220v circuit. They said they just turned the temp dial down to 3 and it performed fine, bullshit story or what?
 
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Some-new-user

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@LesPlenty

Possibly. There doesn't seem to be that many sensitive components in the plenty. I just prefer to use extreme caution.

If it's only a heating element then doubling the voltage input would certainly make the unit run hotter, perhaps too hot for the medical quality we expect from s&b with offgassing from the plastic or the unit running too high.

ALTHOUGH I thought that the plenty used some sort of thermocouple to monitor/control the temperature and the readout. Maybe it uses something else.

To put it in to maths. P=V x I

P = power
V = volts
I = resistance

If I remember correctly my plenty is 110 watts so that's the power. My volts is 230 so the resistance works out about .47 ohms

To do this in a 110v scenario 110 divided by 110 is 1. So I guess the US version could be calibrated different or they may be using a different element.

I wonder if anyone can confirm the watt rating (power consultation) on a 110v plenty? Is it 110 watts or 55?

If it's 110 then the story sort of rings true, it would take around half the power to reach whatever temperature the unit is set to so a setting of 3 would be similar to a 6. In this case a 6 would definitely combust.

DISCLAIMER TIME - I CONSIDER MY KNOWLEDGE BASIC AND AMATURE ALTHOUGH I AM STUDYING ELECTRONICS AT THE MOMENT SO KNOWLEDGE IS BUILDING MORE DAILY. MY HEAD IS A LITTLE FOGGY TODAY -WORK DRINKS LAST NIGHT SO PLEASE TAKE THIS INFO AS IT IS - RAMBLINGS ORF AN AMATURE ON A FORUM. THIS ISNT EXPERT ADVICE AMD IT ISNT ME TELLING PEOPLE IT WILL BE FINE TO PLUG A 110V DEVICE IN TO A 230V SUPPLY.

STAY SAFE USE EXTREME CAUTION
 
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Solar Dabs
Closer view of the thing that switches the heating element on and off. (3 Metal strips, one is bent). Its a 220-240V unit.

It is mechanically connected to the dial.
The dial is not a potentiometer I think, so it does not affect the voltage. You cannot turn down 220V to 110V by the dial.
It may be that the heater of a 110V unit can handle 220V and heats at double speed or so. But then I don't see why it would help to put the dial at 3...the temperature to reach is still the same, no?
Still it might have worked as @LesPlenty read. I wasn't there.

But it would be enough to just transform the voltage beforehand, no need to adapt the Hz, I think.

Just another amateur with basic knowledge thinking... it may be all wrong.

Maybe someone qualified can identify the components.
Plenty2.jpg


I think @ataxian 's solution with the car lighter charger (if it can deliver the 110w) is brilliant! I would try that.


DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME and TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK :cool:

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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Closer view of the thing that switches the heating element on and off. (3 Metal strips, one is bent). Its a 220-240V unit.

It is mechanically connected to the dial.
The dial is not a potentiometer I think, so it does not affect the voltage. You cannot turn down 220V to 110V by the dial.
It may be that the heater of a 110V unit can handle 220V and heats at double speed or so. But then I don't see why it would help to put the dial at 3...the temperature to reach is still the same, no?
Still it might have worked as @LesPlenty read. I wasn't there.

But it would be enough to just transform the voltage beforehand, no need to adapt the Hz, I think.

Just another amateur with basic knowledge thinking... it may be all wrong.

Maybe someone qualified can identify the components.
Plenty2.jpg


I think @ataxian 's solution with the car lighter charger (if it can deliver the 110w) is brilliant! I would try that.

DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME and TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK :cool:
I tried and own many vaporizer’s however the PLENTY in part of da rotation (Flavor)

Thank you 4 looking into my desire 2 use a PLENTY during my trip 2 FRANCE & Da UK. (OXFORD)
 

Sick Vape

Solar Dabs
I tried and own many vaporizer’s however the PLENTY in part of da rotation (Flavor)

Thank you 4 looking into my desire 2 use a PLENTY during my trip 2 FRANCE & Da UK. (OXFORD)

@ataxian
I love the flavour too. I wonder if it could get even better with an all glass air path.
Sometimes I can detect a little of what was vaporised with it last time.

Now that I opened it I like it even more.
Such a simple clever design all analog and it works great. Better that some digital models.
I nowadays prefer taking small dense flavourful hits, because of my lung. It just allows that perfectly with the coil. No need to take super long draws.
It is like they say in the users manual: Take half the draw you could and adapt from there on.
So cool to see that in '68 you were rocking/surfing while i shat my diapers. Great honour to talk to you.:wave:
 
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