Phase3 Vaporizers
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I made a video showing how I do it some months ago, but I went to my Vimeo page and it looks like it never did actually upload. And it looks the file was recently deleted just a few days ago from my phone to make storage room. I’ll make a new video and try to post it a bit later, it’s only 4AM right now, so good morning Z Tribe
Good morning. I would really appreciate that. There is no rush. I managed to replace the screen. But I went through about 5 of them, as I damaged them. I think my technique was way off.I made a video showing how I do it some months ago, but I went to my Vimeo page and it looks like it never did actually upload. And it looks the file was recently deleted just a few days ago from my phone to make storage room. I’ll make a new video and try to post it a bit later, it’s only 4AM right now, so good morning Z Tribe
But a screen is in place, so I can keep using ZX
Dudemeister
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Cheers friends, I’m still waiting to get the pricing on the revised design.
If everything checks out I’d probably put them up on the website for preorder soon.
What is being changed in the revised design?
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It's inspired by the InVerzion 1.7 - my last quartz/glass vape design I built before I started PHASE3.
Compact design for 16MM coils
New screen ledge for increased bead security
Z8 air inlets
Threaded top cap for faster assembly
Possibly a new Ultra Low Profile bowl
always love to see people digging my work, thanks for giving it a chance!And yeah, I’m not sure if people realize how small the ZX really is. Here it is next to my quartz InVerzion 4
@invertedisdead Did you get a chance to test your designs in progress, like the cooling stem, and the conduction/convection design?
I had to cancel the order for those samples when my computer broke as the manufacturer requested a few file modifications on some dimensions, but I'm hoping to move forward with getting those samples ordered again and in for testing as I think the concepts are promising.
They sound very promising.
Sheeyit, sounds like i may be picking up another zxl
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Screen Installation Video
Note: to keep the video short I didn’t show any cleaning but after I pop the screen out I like to go in with a cotton swab or two on a still warm bowl directly after a session. This cleans out accumulated resin and contaminant. You could also soak the entire bowl in isopropyl alcohol between screen changes if you’d prefer.
Appreciate you supporting the ZXL! I’m glad the feedback was super solid on them. The only thing I didn’t like about them is they took a long time for me to assemble. I need to make things easier on myself to be able to continue offering these products.
The new ZXL would be like this.
Screen Installation Video
Note: to keep the video short I didn’t show any cleaning but after I pop the screen out I like to go in with a cotton swab or two on a still warm bowl directly after a session. This cleans out accumulated resin and contaminant. You could also soak the entire bowl in isopropyl alcohol between screen changes if you’d prefer.
Appreciate you supporting the ZXL! I’m glad the feedback was super solid on them. The only thing I didn’t like about them is they took a long time for me to assemble. I need to make things easier on myself to be able to continue offering these products.
The new ZXL would be like this.
I really appreciate you taking the time to make that video. Thank you.@RedZep
Screen Installation Video
Note: to keep the video short I didn’t show any cleaning but after I pop the screen out I like to go in with a cotton swab or two on a still warm bowl directly after a session. This cleans out accumulated resin and contaminant. You could also soak the entire bowl in isopropyl alcohol between screen changes if you’d prefer.
Appreciate you supporting the ZXL! I’m glad the feedback was super solid on them. The only thing I didn’t like about them is they took a long time for me to assemble. I need to make things easier on myself to be able to continue offering these products.
The new ZXL would be like this.
EasyVape
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Question about the ZXL/Diffuser setup. Will the heater have a coil wrap around the same area as the bowl/herb/screen placement? This could be a game changer for diffusers given the fast heat up/heat transfer times I can get from Zirc.
It’s an 18MM injector just like the original ZXL but with a 16MM coil body like the quartz 1.7 - but now I see how it sort of looks like a diffuser.
This one doesn’t do what you’re describing but the concept for the ZXHybrid is exactly like you mention and offers that “360” / BAKX type heating. I actually did one like that in a prototype almost 4 years ago but I never offered it or even posted about it as I didn’t think anybody would really buy a desktop with an emphasis on conduction - whoops lol
I apologize for my habit of collecting these alternate designs, most of these concepts are pretty much finished, I just never know what to build next as it’s so hard to gauge interest in such a niche offering.
No problem friend I hope it helps!
So i had the ZX for three days now. Three wonderful days. And thats it. Its broken now. Doesnt heat up anymore for no reason. Worked just great yesterday, i did not even move anything. The pid still gives out the 230v heater voltage, but the coil does not heat. Tried it with two different pids. Looks like a broken coil to me. Argh!
That's a nightmare. Very unfortunate. I guess it's the great thing about ball vapes though, in that it's only the PID and Coil can breakdown. This is little consolation when it happens so quickly however.
How will these changes impact performance and experience compared to the old version and the ZX? Especially the 16MM coil and those air inlets, and possibly also the new bowl of course.
Why do you think people want to add conduction to the experience and how does it differ from your products? What is the added value of having such a product in short.
Do you think hybrids can increase the high?
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Ernielicous
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I feel like these changes will serve as a nice compression to the already great package the og ZXL delivers. One of the reasons why I still reach for my z8 is because I love staring at those inlets, they seem really classy to me(can't wait to see them on a black zirconia!)
It helps that they also provide Uber airflow on par with the high airflow we all know from the SS screen.all while also improving purity from the added zirconia & safer bc it prevents the balls from ever falling out from the top side.
Can't wait to see if there's another bowl!
It helps that they also provide Uber airflow on par with the high airflow we all know from the SS screen.all while also improving purity from the added zirconia & safer bc it prevents the balls from ever falling out from the top side.
Can't wait to see if there's another bowl!
That's unfortunate, can't say it happens often but that did happen once or twice in the last ~2 years.
If they work going out there's no real way to test against it.
Please send me an email with your order number.
It will be the same essence for sure, most of the changes would be for me for quicker assembly.
I did this 16MM coil sizing 3 years ago before I started building my 14MM zirconia desktops.
The InVerzion 1.7 was my first design I offered for sale here, before I started PHASE3.
Wireless vaping in 2021 with the 1.7
Well on one hand I think people enjoy my vapes and just want to see my take on a conduction or hybrid design.
But I think it's largely from the common claim that conduction is more sedative and no matter what gear folks are using a lot of people are still trying to get more stoned. I find that people tend to assume it's always a device issue but with the gear available today the conversation needs to be had that there's a real issue with the input material. I think I had one or two strains last year that I would truly consider stony and sedative.
This entire thread is dedicated to the mission of achieving a 100% pure convection vape in an ultra pure true medical grade package.
With all the iterations in this thread it was always about removing as much conduction as possible.
There's already lots of conduction vapes already on the market and most of them work well without being plugged into a wall.
Pure convection is the hardest thing to achieve with a vaporizer design and requires the most energy input by far so I don't feel there's any real alternatives to something like the ZX.
But it is true that what enthusiasts are interested in now is different from when I first started this thread years ago.
Perhaps, but it would take a lot more consideration than just choosing a method of heat transfer to truly produce a harder hitting vape.
One of the three prototypes I was supposed to get in for testing I designed from the ground up specifically with the goal of achieving more potent effects based on the last 4+ years of continuous research and development.
I still want to try and get some samples ordered for testing, but I spent a bunch of money on another prototype concept and unfortunately the finish quality isn't up to my standards so I'm going to have to take the loss on that one.
Yeah the Made-in-Japan Z8 really is a sleek one, especially with the Rolex bezel
Definitely a collectors item for the few folks that have one.
I liked that era of my designs, it's too bad more people weren't interested in that line, I had really thought/hoped that's what the community wanted was true high end boutique gear.
It would have allowed for some really advanced stuff like the Z-Pro.
Even though the original plan was a bit different with offering dialed in, purpose built products, it seems necessary to make it easier for folks to experiment with since people seem interested in trying different options.
Also all zirconia would work much better in this smaller housing anyways.
That said this revised ZXL is just a concept at this point, and as usual would probably take a preorder to gauge enough interest to produce it.
I did receive the pricing though so it's buildable at the current price point if the demand is there.
Realistically I still need to produce something more sustainable for this business than these ball vapes, but I don't want to overlook the base I've already built, so it's still an option, albeit I'm still looking for other opportunities.
Speaking of other opportunities, there's just a number of ZX kits left in stock and none currently on re-order so if anyone following along has been thinking about picking one up now might be a reasonable time to do so. Again I can only ship one day a week while I'm away so they'd be moving by Monday. Also a good amount of 25MM ZXXLs available for preorder reservation still. Thanks for your considerations and support to everyone supporting the vision.
Yeah I'm lacking a conduction vape. I have my doubts about it. I used to get decent conduction effects from Volcano Hybrid on whip mode. However taste suffers, and you burn off Cannabinoids and terps while you are not hitting it. I also had the strong impression that conduction highs don't last as long.That's unfortunate, can't say it happens often but that did happen once or twice in the last ~2 years.
If they work going out there's no real way to test against it.
Please send me an email with your order number.
It will be the same essence for sure, most of the changes would be for me for quicker assembly.
I did this 16MM coil sizing 3 years ago before I started building my 14MM zirconia desktops.
The InVerzion 1.7 was my first design I offered for sale here, before I started PHASE3.
Wireless vaping in 2021 with the 1.7
Well on one hand I think people enjoy my vapes and just want to see my take on a conduction or hybrid design.
But I think it's largely from the common claim that conduction is more sedative and no matter what gear folks are using a lot of people are still trying to get more stoned. I find that people tend to assume it's always a device issue but with the gear available today the conversation needs to be had that there's a real issue with the input material. I think I had one or two strains last year that I would truly consider stony and sedative.
This entire thread is dedicated to the mission of achieving a 100% pure convection vape in an ultra pure true medical grade package.
With all the iterations in this thread it was always about removing as much conduction as possible.
There's already lots of conduction vapes already on the market and most of them work well without being plugged into a wall.
Pure convection is the hardest thing to achieve with a vaporizer design and requires the most energy input by far so I don't feel there's any real alternatives to something like the ZX.
But it is true that what enthusiasts are interested in now is different from when I first started this thread years ago.
Perhaps, but it would take a lot more consideration than just choosing a method of heat transfer to truly produce a harder hitting vape.
One of the three prototypes I was supposed to get in for testing I designed from the ground up specifically with the goal of achieving more potent effects based on the last 4+ years of continuous research and development.
I still want to try and get some samples ordered for testing, but I spent a bunch of money on another prototype concept and unfortunately the finish quality isn't up to my standards so I'm going to have to take the loss on that one.
Yeah the Made-in-Japan Z8 really is a sleek one, especially with the Rolex bezel
Definitely a collectors item for the few folks that have one.
I liked that era of my designs, it's too bad more people weren't interested in that line, I had really thought/hoped that's what the community wanted was true high end boutique gear.
It would have allowed for some really advanced stuff like the Z-Pro.
Even though the original plan was a bit different with offering dialed in, purpose built products, it seems necessary to make it easier for folks to experiment with since people seem interested in trying different options.
Also all zirconia would work much better in this smaller housing anyways.
That said this revised ZXL is just a concept at this point, and as usual would probably take a preorder to gauge enough interest to produce it.
I did receive the pricing though so it's buildable at the current price point if the demand is there.
Realistically I still need to produce something more sustainable for this business than these ball vapes, but I don't want to overlook the base I've already built, so it's still an option, albeit I'm still looking for other opportunities.
Speaking of other opportunities, there's just a number of ZX kits left in stock and none currently on re-order so if anyone following along has been thinking about picking one up now might be a reasonable time to do so. Again I can only ship one day a week while I'm away so they'd be moving by Monday. Also a good amount of 25MM ZXXLs available for preorder reservation still. Thanks for your considerations and support to everyone supporting the vision.
Having said that I would really like to have a high quality conduction vape (unicorns) to confirm these aspersions. I don't have anything in my line up that offers any significant conduction.
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@invertedisdead Is there an FC discount for the ZX?
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