@VGOODIEZ I’m really interested to give it a go. You mention you have an OHV. Do you like it? What does it compare to from your viewpoint? The inhalation of butane was always a concern but I’m beyond that now since it seems apparent that a proper working torch is burning it up before it gets near my lungs. Actually I realize I have used a torch based vape. I own a Lotus! But I’ll still enjoy learning the nuances of this general design. Would you say this, the Sticky Brick, etc all work pretty much the same?