Micro-dosing

[Ramahs]

Where in my post does it infer what i'd prefer?

It actually doesn't. My apologies if I was reading too much into it.

 

[MegaMan2k]

I used to micro dose with my volcano and stick to 0.5-1g herb per day, as long as i remembered to exercise daily and ate only home cooked food, that would keep my tolerance at a perfect level / imo i havnt ever been able to peak higher than that-

Strain was : Strawberry banna via DNA genetics,


Last few years ive been on to heavy dabbing as i got into making rosin my consumption just kept going up, even with high tolerance i feel im able to still hit that intense peak, over and over again-

however, i came to realize it might be a dangerous path- as i have seen in my consumption going up from 1 gram of herb per day to instead 1 gram of oil! sometimes more (lol!)


so for the last 5-10 days ive been lowering my tolerance and i try to micro dab now,
sticking to 0.1-0.2gs of oil on the daily,

but DAMN micro dosing with dabs IS HARD!
But its really amazing when dosage is right! I just feel i sometimes take an accidently too large dab and with low tolerance a too large dab is not even funny (imo)

Any others trying to maintain low tolerance with dabbing??

I cant stop to wonder if i will ultimately just go back to dry herb on the volcano for micro dosing. Only time will show i suppose-

Also wondering if anyone is micro dosing with edibles in here?

 

[biohacker]

@MegaMan2k Low Temp Micro Dabbing is the only way I enjoy using cannabis for the past year and a half+. I went from high temp macrodosing flower (2.5g/day) to about .1g of extract per day. My dabs are under 0.02g, and when/if I return to cannabis eventually i'd like to get that down even further to .01g. I find that the best way to keep receptors sensitive and tolerance low is to only use cannabis infrequently, and maintain a healthy lifestyle (low artificial dopamine floods) and body composition.

The key is to use an accurate 0.001g scale, proper dab tool, and gemstone insert to get the temps nice and low. The best part of this is not ever needing to use water, and basically zero reclaim. Super efficient micro dabbing high quality extracts FTW!

Not sure about edibles, but I think that would be kind of tricky to dose with, even with commercial gummies, etc. Only one way to find out!

 

[MegaMan2k]

I did not consider going water-less, thank you for that one!

healthy foods really changes the game along with intense exercise i find that i can indeed replicate the "intense" high everyday at the same time, as long as i dont get that accidential sized dab, and its not even funny because you do struggle for a few days lowering tolerance just to have it "bumped" up by accident xD

 

[biohacker]

I did not consider going water-less, thank you for that one!

Enjoy the flavour explosion! Like a Starburst candy if you have some good extract!

healthy foods really changes the game along with intense exercise i find that i can indeed replicate the "intense" high everyday at the same time, as long as i dont get that accidential sized dab, and its not even funny because you do struggle for a few days lowering tolerance just to have it "bumped" up by accident xD

Diet is imperative indeed, especially fat since that's what are brain is made up of and most people don't get enough Omega 3's, especially DHA. Seafood FTW!

And yes, consistency in the micro dabbing is also crucial, as it's much too easy to scoop up more than a micro dab, and inch up toward that 1g/day! Always weigh your dabs! It's a complete myth that concentrates wreck your tolerance if you adjust properly compared to flower.

 

[invertedisdead]

I used to micro dose with my volcano and stick to 0.5-1g herb per day, as long as i remembered to exercise daily and ate only home cooked food, that would keep my tolerance at a perfect level / imo i havnt ever been able to peak higher than that-

Strain was : Strawberry banna via DNA genetics,


Last few years ive been on to heavy dabbing as i got into making rosin my consumption just kept going up, even with high tolerance i feel im able to still hit that intense peak, over and over again-

however, i came to realize it might be a dangerous path- as i have seen in my consumption going up from 1 gram of herb per day to instead 1 gram of oil! sometimes more (lol!)


so for the last 5-10 days ive been lowering my tolerance and i try to micro dab now,
sticking to 0.1-0.2gs of oil on the daily,

but DAMN micro dosing with dabs IS HARD!
But its really amazing when dosage is right! I just feel i sometimes take an accidently too large dab and with low tolerance a too large dab is not even funny (imo)

Any others trying to maintain low tolerance with dabbing??

I cant stop to wonder if i will ultimately just go back to dry herb on the volcano for micro dosing. Only time will show i suppose-

Also wondering if anyone is micro dosing with edibles in here?

To each his own, but IMO 1g a day of flower is pretty far from micro dosing.

I think a lot of us try to load small-ish bowls throughout the day and call it micro dosing (me included) but IMO one inhalation is a microdose, not a whole bowl - not even generally a small bowl, and not really a giant one hitter either.

I used to do giant one hitters with the FP and tried to call it a microdose cause I finished it in one hit, but there was nothing really micro about it. Not like the folks that do one .025g Vapcap session per day.

I generally find it easier to micro dose with concentrates, I feel like most flower vapes like a certain threshold dose for adequate performance, but with my gem dabs even the tiniest pinhead can be pretty satisfying when tuned in properly.

If you're trying to do multiple dabs per day you might try weighing out yours days allowance and just chip away at that, might help keep things more accountable.

 

[Alexis]

most people don't get enough Omega 3's

True, but of greater relevance is the fact that most people, almost everybody in fact, even very wise health conscious people, get way TOO MUCH Omega 6.


Like eating walnuts for example, under the guise of adding Omega 3 to the diet- the ratio of Omega 6 to 3 is huge. Not only will the omega-3 be of little benefit but the imbalance will actually be more harmful than good overall.

Too much high omega 6 foods are eaten vs omega 3. Pro-inflammatory trumps it in most bodies.

To each his own, but IMO 1g a day of flower is pretty far from micro dosing.

Too right man. To consider 1 gram a day being microdose amounts is highly delusional this is actually very heavy consumption when we are seeing the wood which makes up the trees.

On the subject but separately I took my first ever psychedelic microdose yesterday and had really quite a surprisingly profound and beneficial experience from just 10 micrograms of acid.

I have read and studied much about microdosing in recent months and have been handing out advice like I'm some sort of expert lol and my first experience was incredibly interesting and has given me such an insight into the way microdosing works and has really impressed me in terms of its usefulness and efficacy and potential which appears to be everything it has been built up to be by others.

Very encouraging anyway and I think potentially extremely beneficial for so many different people with very little Downside if any. Anybody considering microdosing psychedelics I can strongly recommend it based on this experience not just for mental health but I also can see immediately how much it could enhance creativity and flexible thinking and problem solving.

Today it has felt like everything is in slow motion and under my control with nothing panicking me. Just clear, calm and focussed.

But yeah man, 1 gram vaped weed in a day is a lot. We should never get to "needing" that much. I have actually cut back considerably the amount I vape since this year's harvest and I'm nowhere near a gram a day whereas I was easily reaching that and over at times a while back.

I think the benefits from the herb are generally diminished when we fail to keep our tolerance much lower using less herb.

Right gonna read the rest of your posts now guys haha, Im always responding to comments before I've even read the whole post.

 

[MegaMan2k]

Great with some more input, i do respect all of your opinions :-)

Do you guys take any "special" omega supplements like fish oil pills or such? Or is your diet just very very on point for all these things?

Im coming from using 5-10grams of herb daily- So 0.5-1grams is often what i end up calling my microdose

I think i would need to do a complete break for 3-4 weeks to completely reset my tolerance
to get sensitive enough again to use less than 0.5-1gram, and still have the benefits im looking for,

Its so hard to take a break after heavy dabbing for 2.5 years without a single day off, lol..


Also, for how many years have you guys been using cannabis, if you dont mind me asking of course?


Edit: Im gonna give it a shot with edibles only today, very light mixed coconut oil where i can almost dosage in 1-2 mg thc intervals

 

[virtualpurple]

I have at times taken what some might consider to be large doses of fish oil. I used the bottled fish oil rather than any sorts of capsules. Using a high quality oil I never experienced digestive issues (with capsules of cheaper oils I would often have burps that tasted disgusting).

it’s been some time since I’ve taken fish oil, but once I feel like I’ve got enough financial stability it may see itself come back into swing.

I also take Mct oil, primarily mixed in with my coffee. I usually fast throughout the day. Lots of times I’ll fast without using any mct oil, but I will often have a tablespoon (sometimes more, sometimes less) with my morning cold brew. It’s emulsified oil so it mixes in quite well and doesn’t separate or clump.

I’ve been consuming cannabis regularly since 2014ish if I remember right.

 

[Alexis]

Great with some more input, i do respect all of your opinions :-)

Do you guys take any "special" omega supplements like fish oil pills or such? Or is your diet just very very on point for all these things?

Im coming from using 5-10grams of herb daily- So 0.5-1grams is often what i end up calling my microdose

I think i would need to do a complete break for 3-4 weeks to completely reset my tolerance
to get sensitive enough again to use less than 0.5-1gram, and still have the benefits im looking for,

Its so hard to take a break after heavy dabbing for 2.5 years without a single day off, lol..


Also, for how many years have you guys been using cannabis, if you dont mind me asking of course?


Edit: Im gonna give it a shot with edibles only today, very light mixed coconut oil where i can almost dosage in 1-2 mg thc intervals

Since 1997, aged 17 for me. I never really allowed myself to become a very heavy user. I used to make do fairly happily with about 7 grams a week as a smoker (joints, bongs).

But I always used psychedellics, MDMA, and my cannabis use was regulated more easily and worked better for me as a supportive complement and medicinal aid.

But really I was always very conscious about not becoming dependent on using large amounts and boosting my tolerance while failing to actually enjoy and appreciate the effects as I had seen with so many other people.

My intake varies a lot currently. My aim, I'm realising now, is not to actually set out to use at all, in reference to vapor.

I need our home made coconut oil edibles everyday or I would never be able to eat anywhere near enough and I don't think I would be alive right now without the (indispensible lol) edibles.

So my daily highs are always a combined effect of vapor and edibles in a totally flexible and random order according to needs and fancy.

I honestly aim to vape as little as posdible while not missing it and being content and motivated enough. I have been doing quite well at going longer periods without vapor, without it even being certain that I would vape that day.

Only about 7 or 8 days off vapor this year and not a single day without any cannabis at all.

When I got up today I was still extraordinarily stoned from yesterday's edible and vapor. I vaped some good weed before a very late bed. I was so stoned that my head was spinning when I got in bed I was really able to perceive how unnecessary it was for me to be that stoned as a direct result of my LSD microdose.

I recognised how I am always too stoned for my own good most nights and how I have been addicted to this pattern. Suddenly, I dont want it. I dont need to be that wasted every day. I didn't like it, seeing clearly how unclear everything was lol, thanks to my new fresh detached perspective from 10ug of Acid.

I vaped half a vapcap bowl of our strongest plant Fantasmo Express, it's really amazing weed, to get back to sleep this morning. So when I got up today I will still very stoned from the pre bed and morning Potent herb.

I did all my allergy management, shower etc. I have fhe worst digestive and intestinal upsets to deal with everyday day so I was definitely going to have my afternoon edible dose which always kicks my digestive system into gear processing undigested food and recovering to a digestible state.

5 grams of canna coconut oil, about 0.35-0.4 grams herb. A very effective dose though.

I was really determined to possibly not vaporize at all until later in the evening but I did finish the fantasmo Express load I started this morning which surprisingly still had quite a lot left and that was all I needed at the time of the evening on top of the edibles.

Could have vaped more and usually would have had at least one more full load on top. I'm realising I don't need to be dependent on this behaviour and I can be very flexible and minimal and long things out more regularly.

A lot of this is due to incredible fatigue also the complications of my allergies when it comes to vaporizing.
On heavier days, I would easily vape a half gram, or gram if several Elev8r bowls happen (very rare lately, WS mainly for herb conservation and ease of use).

So I am no microdoser yet. But I have cut down, lowered my tolerance and kept it there easily. Its easy come, easy go really IME. I dont have objectives really. Just one day at a time.

Microdosing acid just one time has already greatly increased my confidence about being able to address my cannabis use, in anyway I like and make a decision and commit to it without suffering dilemma and uncertainty.

Psychedellics in general often lead to a positive modification of cannabis usage and dependance. I am instantly feeling less dependant on cannabis, in an emotional and habitual addiction sense.

It's like certain ties or attachments have been severed and now I am just deciding each moment what I feel like I what I want and need to do do if I feel like getting stoned and I want to do it then I will and I can.

For many years the simple thought or idea that I need to have a break or stop using cannabis or be less dependent was a scary one which I suppressed. Now it's like that thought pattern has been cleared and I'm genuinely looking forward to see what might be practical and possible, without the fear and actually with a feeling of empowerment and excitement.

So @MegaMan2k Im not sure what your approach should be. I would think your best bet would simply be too to suffer it out in the short and long run and accustom yourself to increasingly lower daily dosages you would probably have to go a few weeks at a time without really experiencing any conscious effect but but then I would predict at some point you would start to feel the same level of effects and even more enjoyable and worthwhile overall from less herb but you would have to put up with a period of feeling very little more than some.

But I think it would be worth it and you would still be receiving medicinal benefits from the herb even without any consciously experienced effects.

I'd just stick with it for a while if you really want to lower your tolerance and receive more benefits from smaller amounts.

Have you ever considered microdosing psychedelics yourself? I do actually think it could help somebody with your own situation to become less dependent and use smaller amounts of cannabis without missing anything or suffering in the process much more easily than without the assistance of psychedelics.

 

[MegaMan2k]

Wanna report back for today :
Edibles for microdose is win, felt like it was easier to dose thru out the day compared to dabs-
And also, a small sized dab feels amazing on even few mgs of edible thc-
Feels just like the kind of entourage effect i only thought was possible to get with way larger doses-

Im on day 11 of reduced thc tolerance-
i have some servere adhd that im dealing with thru cannabis instead of regular medication,
so i do need a little thc thru out the day to keep my self functional
I will say this tho even getting my tolerance down to this level (1g/day) feel way better than 5-10g/day!

I even told my self for a long time that it "must" be better with way large amounts to keep my anger down etc.
It kinda seems the opposite is true, with lowered tolerance i feel the psychoactive effects much more and for longer,
starting to make the conclusion that in the future i will only use larger doses if im in a situation where i have to deal with some serious pain, where i would have normally have had to take stronger and more harmful drugs-

Edit : @Alexis
We were writing at the same time xD nice post! :-)

I kinda had the same experience as you on microdosing lsd this summer just 1 time tho,
Made me think about things differently-
However, That stuff also makes me sing, like it feels like im dying if i dont sing, I know it sounds crazy but thats how i feel when i use psycedelics xD

 

[Alexis]

I kinda had the same experience as you on microdosing lsd this summer just 1 time tho,
Made me think about things differently-
However, That stuff also makes me sing, like it feels like im dying if i dont sing, I know it sounds crazy but thats how i feel when i use psycedelics xD

This is interesting to hear and I don't think a coincidence that you have had a fairly recent psychedelic microdosing experience and are currently committed on this path to reducing your dependence and tolerance and improving your relationship with cannabis for the better.

And it sounds like you are experiencing what I have been myself for many years whereby the combination of edibles and vapour enables you to be much more flexible and less dependent on getting medicated by vaping whereby a little can go a long way and will surely reduce your tolerance and dependence in the process.

You are definitely on the right path and have already noticed improvements you just need to be realistic and practical now and ride it out and things will continue to improve in the way that you wanted to if you put the work in and have faith and maintain discipline.

 

[Krazy]

i dont normally post hopped up on opiatess but replied to a time sensative thread and apearently decided i should then reply to others as well.

medical issues this year have bumped up dossage. low dose edibles as a base with low dose vape as needed lets me keep it still low dose.

micro dose psychedelics for Cluster and migraine headaches . https://clusterbusters.org/

i do d3 + vit k + fish oil for the clusters as well

 

[Verax]

Some great information here. My wife gets horrible migraines, and I've been trying to help with alternatives to western medications, as they don't really work well for her, and are filled with things she doesn't want in her body.

Really appreciate all the great and detailed information on what is working for them. Thank you all for sharing, and helping others learn from your experiments / experiences.

cheers!

 

[Alexis]

i dont normally post hopped up on opiatess but replied to a time sensative thread and apearently decided i should then reply to others as well.

medical issues this year have bumped up dossage. low dose edibles as a base with low dose vape as needed lets me keep it still low dose.

micro dose psychedelics for Cluster and migraine headaches . https://clusterbusters.org/

i do d3 + vit k + fish oil for the clusters as well

@abracadaver hello mate. I hope this alert reaches you. This kind fellow above has dropped in to share very useful information for other's benefit, good on you @Krazy .

 

[mephisto]

Thanks to all who contribute! Big thanks for the head's up @Alexis.

 

[Alexis]

Thanks to all who contribute! Big thanks for the head's up @Alexis.

No problem bro, we gotta look out for each other right? This thread is really cool,mwith so many really open minded people with lots of life experience and wisdom, openly sharing the knowledge and experience to try and help everyone else.

Hope you are good this evening mate. Doing my best to be high and merry here in UK tonight.

Only 2 1/2 Woodscents loads today for me, Durban. But sizeable edible dosing so very medicated really but nothing monstrous. I'm able to keep a much better balance and longevity to my medicating and highs since commencing the psych microdosing. My mum also made a fresh batch of Canna coconut oil from some last year's unused sugar leaves, which has gone down very well on top of my vapor high.

Tomorow is due to be the next microdose day, with 3 days off between but it is flexible after that even.

Have a good evening fellow FC'ers.

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

Im coming from using 5-10grams of herb daily- So 0.5-1grams is often what i end up calling my microdose

Holy shit. That is all.

 

[CANtalk]

Any others trying to maintain low tolerance with dabbing??

I cant stop to wonder if i will ultimately just go back to dry herb on the volcano for micro dosing. Only time will show i suppose-

Also wondering if anyone is micro dosing with edibles in here?

Also, for how many years have you guys been using cannabis, if you dont mind me asking of course?

To not make myself sound too old I'll say I've used cannabis on and off for 'more than' two decades now . Plus more regularly for the last decade, and I'm really now very much enjoying legal cannabis in Canada .

It's been great to follow your posts here . I myself have been successfully microdosing for much of this year now after significantly higher use, and I've been able to incorporate and enjoy microdose dabbing in that routine. I don't measure weights but the recommended "rice grain" size for microdosing concentrates has been good to me, while still concurrently microdosing flower successfully . In the end it's all about dosage control...see what works for you. And one can certainly enjoy different intake methods.

On the edibles question, people definitely microdose edibles successfully too. I have edibles but they have been on hold for most of my microdosing journey so far... because edibles just aren't aren't as strong as vaping for me. Lucky people... those who get big effects from edibles .

Let us know how it goes and please by all means share your journey .




Lots of other great contributors too .

 

[MegaMan2k]

@CANtalk

Great to hear from someone that has been using for decades that its possible to still microdose xD
(I know this is not supported by any science etc. But i was always was afraid of the fact that what if i had used such high amounts daily for so long that my tolerance will never go back to normal etc )


It went pretty good with the edibles for me the first couple of days, but i accidently took 1 too large dosage and i am just coming back to life now after being fried for 3 days straight

 

[Alexis]

It went pretty good with the edibles for me the first couple of days, but i accidently took 1 too large dosage and i am just coming back to life now after being fried for 3 days straight

Haha, only JUST overshot the microdose then!

It's a fine line, and a dangerous business this microdosing. You might not feel a thing, then just a few MG's more and you may find yourself being strapped down by paramedics.

Or wait, hold on. Am I thinking of when you accidentally reach for the Lsd to add thise few extra MG's?

 

[MegaMan2k]

@Alexis

Its because i use infused coconut oil, and in the beginning i was weighing each piece i ate,
Then i got confident and tried to eye ball it, big mistake!!

 

[Alexis]

@Alexis

Its because i use infused coconut oil, and in the beginning i was weighing each piece i ate,
Then i got confident and tried to eye ball it, big mistake!!

Yeah same here man. I am loving starting my medicating routine lateish afternoon with a sizeable dose. But I am quite OCD about weighing it. But not for fear of overdosing just about conservation and living within my means and having some sort of control and measure over things as I go along and reflect back.

Currently I'm enjoying 5 g of our coconut oil as my startomg dose. I mix it up up with a big teaspoon of sunflower lecithin and lots of black pepper plus some unrefined salt and it's all emulsifiers into a sort of sorbet type paste which I refrigerate to stop from melting and then enjoy as a delicious little appetizer lol.


The black pepper slows down the degradation of cannabinoids, inside the receptors, and it honestly makes a difference to the potency and effects of cannabis, exactly what we eat and supplement with makes a difference to how much herb we need to experience a certain level of effects.

I do spontaneously dip into the jar(s) at times, but only rarely. 8 lbs to get messy on those occasions and I don't get as much out of my weed so Im mostly disciplined and regimented about it.

My advice- weigh weigh weigh!

 

[MegaMan2k]

Oh man i will definitely weigh out dosages from now on

This is what happend last night when things couldnt get any worse ( xDDD)
literally stepped 1 step outside my door to welcome a guest, 1 sec later i just hear the door closing behind me... Well 2 hours later i was finally able to get back into my home, oh yea and 230 euros for the locksmith xDD!!!!!

Sure, my own fault!, But its a perfect defintion of the state of mind i fall into when either using too much thc or am trying to come down from having used too much thc- : Un-alert, Short term memoery, over-all slow movements etc.

 

[biohacker]

Okay after over a year and a half cannabis flower free i'm entertaining the thought of purchasing a flower vape for micro dosing. What are your favourites? Ideally i'd like to vape less than 0.05g in one hit, with an absolute max of .1g from time to time. Most vapes need like .25g to operate well, and I only vape bong through water, never direct/dry with flower. I've pretty much had all the desktops, and nothing really satisfies. Am I wasting my time and should just stick to micro dabbing?

The Tinymight has my eye, but flavour is imperative to me, and I can't stand uneven heating and stirring. It's gotta be a one snap ripper like my old school bong smoking days!