Discontinued Inhalater INH05/5S/6

[Old School]

How can you tell without opening it up. From where I am it looks the same lol

No your correct it is very hard to see from the pics..... I think the 3rd one down would be the best to actually make it out....but there is a Polyimide film now over the opening..... easily noticeable in person at just the right angle you can notice that it is a shiny Polyimide coating the sleeve opening....

@Old School - any chance of whipping up a quick usage vid? I really want one, but I want to know more about them first... And now that there is an S coming out, I'll likely hold out for that - nothing beats a fast warmup on a cold day!

I'll have to work on the video request.... as far as knowing more....ask away and I'll do my best to answer all your questions as best I can....
I think you should wait for the "S" mod..... I know I have one earmarked for myself just as soon as they become available that is.... "more power" I feel my Tim the Toolman Taylor coming on..... Errr er er er errr

 

[phattpiggie]

Thanks Old School

 

[Ruta]

So it's basically the same unit with an added button?
Nice to see them admit the batteries can't be changed, shame previous customers had to pay the price for that previous mistake!! It all seems pretty suspect as i bet the design is the same as the previous where they said the batteries were interchangeable, just changed to 'not' now?!?
I can't see how adding further technology to a unit that has had so many problems is going to work, anybody thinking of investing in this company needs to read the INH05 thread to get a fair picture before investing .
I have no qualms with how good it delivers when it works, it's just a shame you've had to 'jump ship' from the last thread, as there are clearly a lot of unanswered issues concerning it's stability, and the companies customer service.
You can't polish a turd, but you can wrap it in carbon fiber and put a switch on it

Also, it looks weird how @Inhalater have not started this thread, or answered any questions about the previous units unreliability in the 05 thread, or is that normal??

 

[Old School]

As far as the thread goes I was asked to open or create this thread by one of the administrators of the forum..... and they did ask me if I felt it was warranted beforehand.... after a couple days to think about it... I agreed because I do feel it operationally is very different.....

I know you guys were very upset by the other member THC's comments about how we should all have known better....sighting the flimsy ribbon cable as a common sense measure.....we all should have been smarter than the manufacturer.... well that member was very clearly looking to stir things up for whatever reason..... wouldn't be surprised if they were actually from another camp as throwing this thread into a tail spin downward..... I too was more than a bit miffed by many of those comments.....

It is my understanding that the addition on the button meant adding wires to the bottom pcb so we are no longer able to safely remove the battery like we could with the INH05....
So you see this feature being lost or taken away has to do with the addition of the "Turbo button" and absolutely nothing to do with the thread stirring comments made by our friend THC....

EDIT: I was further told that these wires would be later cleaned up so that we would once again be able to replace batteries on the fly in the next release perhaps.... lets hope that turns out to be true.....

You can't polish a turd, but you can wrap it in carbon fiber and put a switch on it

I'm sure I must come off as the head cheerleader for Inhalater...... but I must say I really enjoyed this comment..... cause I sorta thought the same thing when I first opened up the box.... Turns out it just looks like a "Turd" with a button on it.....

 

[Ruta]

Only you know the difference, 3 different units in under a year, looks to me like the new thread is to escape bad publicity, only my thoughts mind. I think i remember a mod saying it wasn't justified to start a new thread, and you also said it as i recall?
I understand your 'turbo' button makes it different, but with the companies track record of faulty units and bad customer service i feel it is in future customers interest to know this history, i mean where are @Inhalater in all this? Surely if they had faith in their new unit it would be them pointing out the positives in owning this vape, at least once!
As for THC, he sure has posted a lot in the Inhalater threads, 122 of his total 124 posts have been in the 05 and XP threads, that looks a lot different to your 'another camp' theory, don't you agree?

 

[phattpiggie]

It's not safe to remove the 05 battery especially if it's your daily driver as it is mine and yours. 2/3 years is not on the fly unless they intend on changing the existing ribbon at the same time?

 

[Old School]

Absolutely correct..... I did in fact say that at that time I was like most everybody else here it looked like the same unit with a button slapped on the outside..... hardly seemed like a good reason for a new thread.... well this silly little slapped on button....aside from needing to be cleaned up to look like it wasn't such an obvious after thought..... it really is pretty amazing.... who woulda thunk it.....

I do agree with you about the unusual silence of the manufacturer throughout all of this and your observation about THC's posts...... could just be another fan like myself then perhaps several years younger some of those comments were fairly outlandish.... maybe even leaning towards childish..... I'm sure if you were to look at my posting habits most of them are here as well..... intriguing for sure.....?

It's not safe to remove the 05 battery especially if it's your daily driver as it is mine and yours. 2/3 years is not on the fly unless they intend on changing the existing ribbon at the same time?

I too what to hear from Inhalater directly in this forum..... not doubting your posts about what has been said.... its just important enough I think that they need to come out with an official public stance.....

Until that day.... I have been extremely interested in this issue and would love to see a pic or 2 of what this fracture looks like and in-particular where along the ribbon it resides.... like is it down near the extreme fold the manufacturer puts on this "flimsy ribbon cable".....

 

[phattpiggie]

I do agree with you about the unusual silence of the manufacturer throughout all of this

Sounds like an invite Pharmacor.

 

[Ruta]

Well @Inhalater follow you old school so we can almost guarantee they are seeing all this!!
I do not doubt the 'turbo' button adds something, i've never said this unit does not deliver, it's just the stability of the product that i am questioning, if they haven't got it right in the 05 and 05s then how will this one last, it's got even more technology to go wrong. Am i to take it you have not had to return any of their products and have no experience of the unreliability?
I will post the picture i sent Pharmacor, and i've been meaning to show the innards anyways so i'll get snapping tomorrow and post them all together to,orrow

 

[killick]

I'm glad it has a new thread. I know some of you guys love your inhalaters, going back a few revisions, but I have no clue how or why an XP works. Nor the 05 in either incarnation. So thanks for taking the lead on this @Old School.

I'm sure Pharmacor is watching. Hopefully they'll jump in and do some of their own cheerleading? I can only cheer about the 5 and especially the 5s...

Also, I'm not 100% convinced that the ability to change batteries is really all that big of a deal. I recharge while driving if needed, and have a couple of weeny battery packs that I take camping, which are perfect. I've only ran out of juice once or twice, and that was in the first few days of learning the device, so personally I'm not really worried about it. I'm sure that if it was going to be swapped out due to a failure that it's still doable, just requires more caution. But this is purely speculation on my part...

 

[phattpiggie]

Purely speculation but I reckon it's just an 05 inside and when you push the 'Heath Robinson' button it steps up the power to an 05s. Hence the need for the addition of new wires from the bottom pcb up to the switch. Would be interesting to be able to do a side by side test.
@killick it's a big deal to me I bought it off the back of the 'on the fly' claims.
Sorry purely coincidental on the purely speculation lol
You can bet they are watching in one way or another. 21,525 members on here their opinions and disposable dollars make it a no brainer not to keep an eye on proceedings in a multi million dollar industry.

 

[z9]

Purely speculation but I reckon it's just an 05 inside and when you push the 'Heath Robinson' button it steps up the power to an 05s.

If that really was the case they wouldn't announce plans for an 06s in the future. I have no firsthand experience with the 6 but it seems that depressing the button simply steps up the temperature setting without manually turning the knob.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they added a second heater with the "S" mod... hell I have one and I don't even know for sure. The INH05s is least informed vape purchase I've ever made.

 

[phattpiggie]

I thought I read they just ramped up the power on the 05s. Sorry if I am wrong.

 

[Old School]

If that really was the case they wouldn't announce plans for an 06s in the future. I have no firsthand experience with the 6 but it seems that the depressing the button simply steps up the temperature setting without manually turning the knob.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they added a second heater with the "S" mod... hell I have one and I don't even know for sure. The INH05s is least informed vape purchase I've ever made.

You are correct on both fronts......

Oh and BTW..... I easily kill a battery sometimes 2 of them when I go to the beach so I carry my INH05"S" with me so that when the INH06 dies..... I'm not dyin... I'm still flyin.....

 

[cawshook]

Boost? Theres a boost button? I don't know man I'm starting to think we're talking about two different vaporizers. The one I tried had only the two differences I mentioned (no plastic around the oven and the lights were less bright). No boost button. Again, why is this information not available n their website?

To me they performed exactly the same. Could I maybe have tried a revised inhalater 05 with the same wrapping as that for the 06? Because the one I tried looked exactly the same as in the pictures. Lol, I don't know I'm confused, but I have a feeling its the 06. I guess we'll see.





I'm not exactly sure what that means.

I just want to mention that the vaporizer I tried was definitely a revised 05 with the carbon fiber wrapping, and for sure not the 06. Just thought I'd make that clear.

 

[Episode666]

A friend brought his 05s unit home and we had a great time with it. When he saw my Air he was pretty disappointed, because as he puts it out, in an industrial design class the 05s would score a F. That ribbon cable thingy just asking to render the unit useless makes it look like a beta release. The plastic body and the plastic silver lining glued on it adds to that cheap feeling. On the Air the battery is offset, so the unit will not roll off your table easily. The 05s loves to roll off any table if you don't keep an eye on it. Those are just a few examples, but a word that definatly did not come to my mind when I put my hand around the 05s was "quality".

Despite the huge discrepancy in the build quality, I felt like the 05s was performing better. So much that I would not mind a week or two of "exchange your vape", but I trust my Air to be lasting much longer. I just feel the 05s and 06 are overpriced for the care put in the design, fabrication and PR. Everyone is building vaporizers around milled aluminum bodies, even the cheapest options like the Flowermate, but here we are contemplating a 350-400$ unit, built around a plastic tube with fake carbon fiber glued on it unless I am mistaken.

I still can't wait to try one, I really LOVED the performance of the 05s, but no way on earth I'm paying 400$ for this.

 

[Ruta]

Spot on observations by Episode666, interesting to hear your comparison with the Air, i have never doubted the performance of the 05, just a shame about it's longevity and the quality of the build, the Air looks better built.


Edit :

@Episode666, here's my ribbon cable that has snapped due to me changing the battery how the manufacturer stated on their website (And still do), and has now rendered my unit useless after only 7 months of owning.

I hope all can see that it is the connections that have snapped, and the ribbon is still attached.

 

[Old School]

Thank you for posting those pics and being so honest and forthright..... I can clearly see now that the fracture is right were the manufacturer puts a rather extreme bend on the ribbon cable.....

Now it looks as though it was one of two possible scenarios;

1st it could have been from replacing the battery if you were to try to bend back or flatten completely the ribbon cable... but I betting your not doing that... so it would require many many back and forths so I'm thinking this might be less likely our scenario.....

2nd possibility would be that the ribbon was over crimped or pinched beyond where the manufacturer had already bent it.... and I'm afraid I can see a tiny bit of evidence that would suggest that you may have mistakenly.. missed having the ribbon tucked inside when putting the cap back in place.... accident I'm sure of it..... not the best design for replacing a battery....agreed...... in fact needs to be improved...... absolutely as it would be better and in everyone's interest if these types of things could be designed for...

This is likely why they are saying... No to the warranty...... I want to tell you to scrap the film away and bridge the runs with strands of wire and solder..... but really I don't think it would work becasue it would need to still be bent there....unless you could make the bend above the cap area....like a Z fold.....

This does suck I see both sides.... perhaps as much as I hate to say this because I LOVE and will continue to swap in fresh batteries.....but perhaps this was a bad idea to allow / encourage all of us consumers out here to to replace these batteries...especially highlighting how easy it is to pinch this ribbon cable the way it is assembled.....

 

[Episode666]

Spot on observations by Episode666, interesting to hear your comparison with the Air, i have never doubted the performance of the 05, just a shame about it's longevity and the quality of the build, the Air looks better built.


Edit :

@Episode666, here's my ribbon cable that has snapped due to me changing the battery how the manufacturer stated on their website (And still do), and has now rendered my unit useless after only 7 months of owning.

I hope all can see that it is the connections that have snapped, and the ribbon is still attached.

Here's the comparaison shot.

 

[Ruta]

@Old School
Wow, that was a way longer explanation than Pharmacor gave me of why my warranty does not stand, and out of your 2 presented scenarios, you fall on the user error side, as much as you sprinkle it with glitter!!

While i would love to say i've never nearly put the cap on with the ribbon stuck out, i always learn from my errors and can assure you this has only been done once, but my hat is off to you for your CSI eye

You have a unit, you can see where any possible weaknesses on the ribbon would be, and when changing batteries you can observe where on the ribbon is affected the most by the operation. How would you take the dial and electrics out of the way just enough to slide a battery in and out without flexing the manufacturers extreme fold every time?
Here is the websites video, i believe it shows you how the ribbon would eventually weaken enough for the connections to snap, right on that mad fold he bends back and forth.

As you can see, the manufacturers extreme fold is so extreme that it cannot be folded any more so, as the cables are touching? Therefore, how can it be crimped or pinched BEYOND, i can upload some pictures of how the ribbon was left outside the cap that time, to show the scenario?
Your whole comment is very presumptuous, and your last comment, where you pass your final judgmental word on the proceedings, is the icing on the cake. If you watch the video and think about doing that operation daily, being way more careful than video dude (bar the one mistake) i believe your statement to be a bit to quick to judge and very one sided, as much as you pepper it with niceties.

@Episode666 Now that looks a bit more professional, no room for Mr Thicko making mmmmistakes

 

[Old School]

It absolutely needs to be addressed..... I myself had an XP ribbon disconnect at the pcb the very 1st time I had it opened up.... It was well beyond the warranty window and had stopped working for GF.... sad thing was I was able to fix it by cleaning the switch however the damn ribbon just fell off when I was putting it back together..... I so I absolutely agree this ribbon cable method needs to be addressed...

Problem being manufacturer is now flipping on us or so it would appear anyway.... still no official comment

Sorry if you felt I was passing judgement..... It was not my intent.....if I were to pass any sort of judgement.... it would be that you should at the very least be mailed a replacement set of guts....

Again I see both sides... but in the end it was a major selling point... I myself bought 2 for myself....

You asked me a while back if I have had any failures.... well of course I have and my very 1st "S" mod {thank goodness I bought 2} anyway 1st 1 smoked the very 1st time I tried to swap-out the battery... it lasted a few more weeks but then smoked on me another time and that was it for that 1.....

Also I was around before that... as my XP Q2 was my very 1st Inhalater..... OMG did I fall in love with that version...... but it was plagued with USB issues and eventually died as did Q3.... Q4 was fairly solid however the above ribbon cable story above was about a Q4 so very long story short..... this manf. has had more than their fair share of bumps along the way... and as such has been heavily burden with warranty support..... I can remember back then waiting months.. and months.... to get a warranty replacement..... I'm hopeful that they might very well reconsider their stance and be willing to work something out with you......

I for one have been very impressed with your honesty.... admitting that you did that one time oops.... most commendable in my mind..... and I'm betting that mistake wouldn't likely be repeated again....

 

[phattpiggie]

and I'm afraid I can see a tiny bit of evidence that would suggest that you may have mistakenly

Where can you see this just out of curiosity??
It is clear that the 'on the fly' is a clear case of mis-selling.
@Inhalater now seem to be openly admitting they were wrong to make the claim about battery interchangeability 'on the fly'. Every 2/3 years is hardly 'ON THE FLY'. More than likely the real reason why the 06 no longer has this 'feature'.

@Inhalater it's about time you stepped up and answered some questions I am sure a lot of people would like answering.

I for one feel FUKIN DUPED. It would seem everyone who has bought a unit is vaping on borrowed time.

@Ruta can you post your fotos on the 05 thread as well that way its on the thread @Inhalater started just in case they aren't following this one. I am sure a few people on there would like to see the cable problems.

 

[Raf007]

Hello Fam,

I am really sad to report my trouble with Greg and its INH company.

I have like 4 deffective INH and am waiting for months to get a warrantied unit.

I paid for some glass mouthpiece that I never received, and Greg is asking for a few months to send me back one or two units.

Seriously....

the unit is great when it works, the team at INH is nice

but

working with this company is hard.

When I see they release a new version but don't bother answer emails or mp on FC i really wonder what is happening lately.

Bless,

Raph

 

[Old School]

Where can you see this just out of curiosity??

It is only because I was one of the original INH05 beta testers.... and I too did that very oops and pinched the ribbon cable.... luckily the beta unit was badly toleranced... the cap would pop off so easily and didn't look straight while on.... so the pinch wasn't significant enough to cause a fracture but it did create that small tiny extra bend or crease that I can see in the 2nd photo {its caused by the cap retainer ring} and that was all possible because I thoroughly examined the ribbon right after I did it....

Perhaps Inhalater didn't notice it because they were more used to putting the cap back on so less likely to make that oops you and I have..... the production tolerances are ridiculously tight now... I suggested to Greg that maybe they should take a little emery cloth to a small portion of the ring opposite the ribbon to make it much easier to pop on and off... but I don't know if anything was acted on......

Although much of this is interesting and informational for sure..... I will say again this really needs to be addressed in some way.....

Here I'll jump way out of the box..... lets go back to good old fashioned wire cable... and then lets change the design so that we don't pop the cap off the bottom but rather we open it like a old shotgun... how cool would that be.... push in a tab and crack it open exposing the battery.... replace and close it so it clicks or latches..... maybe two hinges alone the sides..... looks great in my head.......

I really do NOT wish to loose the battery replacement functionality..... so I'm so hoping they are in fact listening to all of this discussion on here and can come back with a cleaner way of replacing batteries...

Edit: Like Raph I too am concerned about Inhalater's health / stability... I fear the warranty replacements were such that remaining afloat may not be a reality they can afford to indulge.... writing looks to be on the wall.... Best Wishes Inhalater....

 

[phattpiggie]

that small tiny extra bend or crease that I can see in the 2nd photo

Sorry to disagree with you Old School but mine looks the same and has never been trapped when putting the battery back in.
I agree that a 'door' would be better but it's too late for that. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
People, myself included, bought this unit based on the battery changeability and now they are saying you can't do it.
@Inhalater need to admit they were wrong and honor the warranty for the people who have got defunct units due to their mistakes. The ribbon is not the only problem with their product.
The sad situation is that most will just have to write off their $250+ dollars they invested.
A good product spoiled by poor business acumen and even worse customer care.
If you can't stand the heat.......