Discontinued Inhalater INH05/5S/6

[PPN]

I done the same test than you(HerbalHealing) after a full session at 9 (kief caps!) and plastic was still hard, I thought the melting is coming from the hot capsule when you slide it out just after use or during, but I didn't make this test (I rarely use back to back capsule so it's not an issue for me...)

 

[Country-Mac]

I done the same test than you after a full session at 9 (kief caps!) and plastic was still hard, I thought the melting is coming from the hot capsule when you slide it out just after use or during, but I didn't make this test (I rarely use back to back capsule so it's not an issue for me...)

Yes, I agree; and if it is indeed happening when inserting and removing the capsule, the plastic rim wouldn't get soft from the quick melt.

 

[Inhalater]

Here is the engineering solution to eliminate risk of plastic residues on capsules

We will reduce maximum temperature to 226 Celsius (from 261 C)

Pharmacor technologies will discontinue sales of glass capsules

 

[KeroZen]

Isn't the combustion "point" around 230-240°C anyways? What was the rationale to go this high in the first place? I don't have access to concentrates in Europe but I imagine it's for that?

 

[Country-Mac]

Isn't the combustion "point" around 230-240°C anyways? What was the rationale to go this high in the first place? I don't have access to concentrates in Europe but I imagine it's for that?

Probably not that. Concentrates won't really work in it. Some people would sandwitch concentrates in cotton in the xp, but I haven't heard of anyone trying it in the 05. I would expect it to drip down into the air path and clog it as was the risk with the xp.

 

[Inhalater]

Yes concentrates work very well

 

[smokey_da_vape]

When will the other indigogo perks be delivered?

 

[Inhalater]

Water tool adapters and aero capsules will be in stock in 2 weeks or so. Water tools should be available around the same time.

For the ones waiting on glass capsules, we will offer other replacement perk.

 

[smokey_da_vape]

Thanks for the quick response.

 

[PPN]

Here is the engineering solution to eliminate risk of plastic residues on capsules

We will reduce maximum temperature to 226 Celsius (from 261 C)

Pharmacor technologies will discontinue sales of glass capsules

What is the problem with the glass capsules?

261°C was pretty high but it's nice for concentrates, I done several capsules os fief sandwiched with oily coton= great clouds at 9 but I prefer to start at 8 to get some tastier hits and I turn it up to 9 for clouds.

226 is a nice max t° for flowers and most of us used their 05 for flowers only so it could be enough but the high t° ability is a great "plus"imo...do you think we haven't got this sort of issue with the Xp cause lower t°... imo my Q2 Xp get the same t° range (for kief vaping I get great results with both Xp and 05)

Is it really difficult to insert again, in a improved design, the white teflon(?) ring around the chamber as the Xp get, I thought the issue comes from this place! but I'm not an engineer, that's just my thoughts...

Mine is still going strong but I don't use it a lot cause I'm down about flowers and, awaiting the flower back, I use more kief or shatter. Can't report any melting issue actually and , all in all, I'm quite happy with it, the smaller size might help about the stealth issue (lot of times I work with peoples, I'm a sort of teacher and I was never able to find a portable vape stealth enough to don't caught the eye, I'll test the 05 soon on this way and I'm awaiting for the I-mag+ for this purpose too!)

Good vape
ps: So you didn't ship yet any glass capsule? why not it's nice to be able to switch to glass sometime...

 

[Old School]

Here is the engineering solution to eliminate risk of plastic residues on capsules

We will reduce maximum temperature to 226 Celsius (from 261 C)

Pharmacor technologies will discontinue sales of glass capsules

WOW....REALLY.... is this your consumers punishment for complaining about you deciding to use plastic sleeve to surround your heating element.... and reports are coming in about it melting.....
resembles the Soup Natzi "no soup for you"....somewhat of an interesting approach...it did after all work for him on that make believe show....wow....I'm steadily being blown away by this attitude I'm seeing...

I'm reminded of the Q3 release where they did just that "accidentally"..... my Q3 was a waste of my time much like my VB 2.0 was....it just doesn't get the job done.....

BTW.... I treat myself to the pure THC wax or butter that I reclaim from the inside of my tubes and caps... yes I do pull in a tiny bit of flower then my wax log that has also been rolled in flower.... works great.....but I must say I use every bit of that # 9 setting...... so this has now become extremely upsetting....

I'm hoping this issue is not affecting all units, so time will tell. I'd like to put forth the possibility that there could be some plastic composition inconsistency during the manufacturing process perhaps? It is a new process after all. ....and IF it's indeed being made in China, we know sometimes materials can be switched with inferior/cheaper ones if the company doesn't stay right on top of them to ensure tight tolerances & QA.

I think Inhalater needs to really dig into this further before conclusions are drawn (by them and us). I mean I really feel for those who waited months to receive a problematic unit, but there are more of us that aren't experiencing this. Thanks to all for the feedback, past & future, as this will help Inhalater narrow down the issue hopefully

Not blindly defending anyone or anything, just keeping it positive as that's my default setting. It's disappointing, but I'm very hopeful that once things get straightened out we will be enjoying our units without any health concerns, not that I have any with my specific unit. Those with issues maintain that this thing (when it works) produces some of the nicest vapor, which is a real testament to how well it can work.

I humbly plead with everyone to not just pile-on but provide our facts & findings (negative OR positive) as objectively as possible so that we and the company can expedite resolutions.

I really liked this approach and it does make me wonder why Inhalater is not taking this approach.... hmmmmm..... personally I'd love to hear it was simply a bad batch or something like that...

 

[theCerberus]

Cool down time has always been mandatory and always will be.

We will additionnaly build in some buffers to limit to all possible extent any additional risks that would be created by users inadvertantly using the unit erroneously.

The point is: if you use the unit properly: wich is nothing more than not playing with a burning hot component, the risk does not exist.

Consider that your previous model, the XP, had no issue removing a hot capsule. If cooldown time is mandatory, your vape is worse than the previous model.

I would say that most, if not all users on here are interested in removing the capsule and getting another one going immediately, its also easier to empty bowls if warm, and isnt so burning hot that we cant handle ourselves/prevent burning.

You are patronizing us, and have lost sales in the process. If cool down is mandatory, many are not interested in the product. But thanks for being honest.

Here is the engineering solution to eliminate risk of plastic residues on capsules

We will reduce maximum temperature to 226 Celsius (from 261 C)

Pharmacor technologies will discontinue sales of glass capsules

First of all, I was really only interested in the glass capsules, so now you've lost my sale entirely.

Second, this is the wrong way to go about doing engineering and customer service.

The only acceptable solution is to replace the part with one that can withstand the heat, gimping the product is the worst possible solution.

 

[smokey_da_vape]

Sitting here ripped. And reading all the negative feedback about inhalater. Sure they are not the best when it comes to making their customers feel like they care about what we say and all we are trying to do is make a better vaporizer by offering free user reviews. and the melting plastics issue isn't something I want to happen to me. But I have lucked out and gotten a vape that does the job. I just used it on setting 9 into my water bong and milked it out 4 times in a row with 1 capsule. I'd take a picture of my rig but it's dirty as ef. I've owned many vaporizers and I've never seen the extraction from my medicinals from any other vape that I see from this.

 

[pakalolo]

Please don't turn this thread into constant bickering with the manufacturer over his design decisions. You can state your opinion once, and you can respond if @Inhalater adds anything new to the discussion, but simply repeating your opinion every time he posts doesn't add anything, clutters up the thread, and might be seen as a violation of our rule against bashing companies.

Also, it's not for anyone here to tell Inhalater how to run his business. If he makes bad decisions, the market will tell him that. None of you have the information that goes into Pharmacor's decision-making, so please don't presume that you know better.

 

[Smknbud]

I won't get into my paypal dispute I've initiated with @Inhalater since I've not gotten my INH05 yet, but when checking my order status they have changed it to "on hold" from "processing". Since we know they never have changed it from "processing" to "shipped" for anyone, I will assume at this point it means new sales are probably on hold till they get the 'issues' ironed out.

For me, at this point with the 30 day plus run around I've been put through, all I want is my money back.

 

[Inhalater]

No worries

It is great to share opinions on business decisions and engineering choices. Converstion has permitted to explicit egineering limitations/operation requirement and user concerns

We do get worked up sometimes but it's great to be human

Friends; please feel at home on this thread :-)


edit: Please be patient; units shipping out everyday

 

[ean]

Don't be an inhahater be an inhalater

 

[shenron89]

I love my unit. I found no problem waiting a lousy 2 min for it to cooldown. Seems like the only time I would be rushed to use it so quick would be during break at work....lol(which i shouldn't anyways). Heats up fast, battery lasts a while (get 7-9 sessions). Love the thick vapor clouds this thing produces.

 

[llamaman001]

Im glad to see inhalater taking steps to make sure this problem doesent happen again. If they want to turn the temp down that is fine with me! I remember taking loads out of my XP that were BLACK, I mean it literally must have been just a FEW degrees from combustion so lower temps than that are fine with me! I just dont want any melted plastic and the ability to pull out the capsule right when the session is over.

For those complaining about the glass capsule it never looked it was something they planned on integrating fully. It felt more like a test capsule that obviously failed. I remember when I had my XP I would always just use a hammer stem upside down and it worked PERFECT. Takes a lot longer to heat up to proper temp though. For those that based the sale of this vape off of the glass capsule...well I just dont know what to say to you but the inhalater has always used the plasticy capsules.

For those of you complaining about long shipping times I just dont understand how you cant comprehend that "shit happens", especially for a company launching a new product and for one that already had at least 1,000 units on pre-order. Have some patience and if you dont have any, WAIT until a company has stock of what they are shipping ON HAND, not when they are literally building them and shipping them within a day or so.

Rant over, inhalater I wish the best for you and only see this vape improving. I feel you know more about this vape and the changes it needs more than us so I trust you! Just keep doing what your doing.

 

[Smknbud]

For those of you complaining about long shipping times I just dont understand how you cant comprehend that "shit happens", especially for a company launching a new product and for one that already had at least 1,000 units on pre-order. Have some patience and if you dont have any, WAIT until a company has stock of what they are shipping ON HAND, not when they are literally building them and shipping them within a day or so.

Rant over, inhalater I wish the best for you and only see this vape improving. I feel you know more about this vape and the changes it needs more than us so I trust you! Just keep doing what your doing.

Nuts to this comment. I can comprehend that 'shit happens' as you so eloquently phrased it, but explain to me and others that have been told bi-weekly/weekly since 8/6 that their order has shipped and "rest assured" that you'll be getting it at end of week. Week after week after week. And you want me/us to cut them slack? Not......gonna......happen.

Why not take a visit to inhalater web site and post a link where it says anywhere that orders for the INH05 are pre-orders or subject to 30+ days delay. Show me and I'll eat crow.

 

[theCerberus]

Please don't turn this thread into constant bickering with the manufacturer over his design decisions. You can state your opinion once, and you can respond if @Inhalater adds anything new to the discussion, but simply repeating your opinion every time he posts doesn't add anything, clutters up the thread, and might be seen as a violation of our rule against bashing companies.

Also, it's not for anyone here to tell Inhalater how to run his business. If he makes bad decisions, the market will tell him that. None of you have the information that goes into Pharmacor's decision-making, so please don't presume that you know better.

I completely understand, I dont want to sound repetitive, or insult Inhalator, and I've towed the line in my posts. However, I feel I've been careful enough to wait for counter-points and respond to those alone. I'm really just trying to state an opinion, Inhalator can choose to handle it however they like. I will not bring it up further now that it has been discussed and decided. Thanks.

 

[2clicker]

I completely understand, I dont want to sound repetitive, or insult Inhalator, and I've towed the line in my posts. However, I feel I've been careful enough to wait for counter-points and respond to those alone. I'm really just trying to state an opinion, Inhalator can choose to handle it however they like. I will not bring it up further now that it has been discussed and decided. Thanks.

i think what pako meant was that if the MFG isnt answering specific questions/concerns here, that you then take it to an IM or a direct email. i do understand that it may seem to some that this thread is the only way to get answers, but thats not why it is here.

this thread is to say what youve got to say and move on. continuing to post the same questions, whether they are answered or not, is not beneficial to the thread. its beneficial to you, but not to others looking for reviews. especially after they have already read it a couple of times.

for the record i fully understand the frustrations. but we gotta keep this place tidy or it wont be as great as it is.

my advice... and some i am going to be taking myself... is to ask your question... if it gets answered great. if not take it up with the MFG directly. then when/if you get a reply you can post your findings in here.

again, im not trying to be the "youre doing it wrong" guy. i have to remind myself of this all the time.

 

[Inhalater]

The best way to empty the capsule; especially with resinous substrates like shisha tobaccos, is to push out the charge from the screen side with a q-tip when capsule is cool.

In the cases where 120 seconds cannot be waited between reloads, we suggest to purchase a second unit. As in the case of a commercial environment, having many units on hand removes any time stress.

 

[Smknbud]

In the cases where 120 seconds cannot be waited between reloads, we suggest to purchase a second unit. As in the case of a commercial environment, having many units on hand removes any time stress.

So simple. Buy 2 INH05 for $500. Why didn't the rest of us think about this solution.

 

[pakalolo]

So simple. Buy 2 INH05 for $500. Why didn't the rest of us think about this solution.

This is exactly the kind of comment I meant. It is sarcastic, inflammatory, and adds nothing to the discussion. You've been given a lot of rope and now you want to stick your neck in the noose?