Discontinued Inhalater INH05/5S/6

[HerbalHealing]

I don't have a clue what's up with it. I don't have an external charger to do a comparison. Having read a few caveats about the fragility of the battery assembly, I'm frankly wary of even playing with it. One of the only things I didn't test on the INH so far.

EDIT: just noticed you said you get ten sessions from a full charge. Anyone else have any info on charge length? If that's standard, that is seriously impressive....90 minutes of use.

I have similar with my xp's as well, but do keep in mind that with my recent 005 testing, I did them in a few back to back sessions, which would consume less energy than 10 individual sessions where it cools right down between each.

As many have mentioned, letting Li-ion batteries drain to zero should be avoided (reduces battery life & capacity), but on occasion (monthly) can be used to bring the battery's internal capacity meter into sync with it's full charge reading.
Having said that, I've achieved 12+ sessions on my XP and if the 005 is at least as efficient with it's energy management, you could reasonably expect similar if not better. I've found to get fewer sessions when using it in winter out in the cold, so some variation would arise from other factors.

In any case, it IS impressive to me that my last session prior to auto-shut off due to low battery, is the same as the first...meaning as long as you have charge, the device's performance should be the same throughout the full to empty cycle, which is not always the case with electronics when performance degrades over the full to empty cycle.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations HerbalHealing,
Salutations Hodor,
Salutations Mitchgo61,
Salutations Inhalater,

Can't think of a faster evolving vape.

Yes we've seen it evolve indeed and i'm glad i was made aware of it via FC:

FC: Inhalater portable (2011-Apr-18)​

The Inhalater is among those few rare candidates which survived a difficult process; i actually wish it had retained flame compatibility somehow, to even offer bi-energy. Maybe someday...

So does this use conduction or convection?

...it doesn't seem to cook...

If it's a combination of conductive, radiative and convective heat then one might wonder how kapton/polyimide compares to glass:

« ...a glass option is in the works for glass lovers... »​

Inhalater, sorry if i feel i must ask! But...

Is there going to be an optional Glass Vaporizing Chamber with the Inhalater Inh05??

Good day, have fun!

 

[Country-Mac]

There is a glass chamber! They have shown pictures earlier in the thread and it looks awesome. Probably will have to sacrifice some heatup time for the better flavor though. Time will tell.

I got my power sticker in today, but I'm leaving it off. I love going by taste and feel.

I think this really is the vaporizer to convert combustors. If it had been my first vape, I would have dropped the lighter much faster.

INH005. So tasty. So stealth. So powerful.

I'm shooting my video review this weekend now that I have 2 weeks of testing. Spoiler; this vape is pretty great. A few growing pains in the company, but the crew seems to be busting their butts and it's worth the wait.

 

[2clicker]

i got problems... i was seeing what taking the battery out entailed... and now my 05 wont heat up.

i popped the dial off just like the video. then i went to take the actual electronics part out and it was stuck in there pretty good. it finally came loose, but when it did part of the PCB ribbon in there ripped. now when i turn it on it flashes maybe 4-6 times and the turns off.

i really hope this is covered under the warranty. not very excited atm...

EDIT* wishing i would have never even attempted it to begin with.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations Country-Mac,
Salutations 2Clicker,

There is a glass chamber! They have shown pictures earlier in the thread and it looks awesome.

Considering there already are snapshots to demonstrate water toy compatibility i had to wonder.

Probably will have to sacrifice some heatup time for the better flavor though. Time will tell.

Hummm... Lets suppose kapton/polyimide happens to be relatively opaque to radiative heat while the selected glass will only block a fraction of it, might it not as well result in a gain of pre-heating time after all?

Unless the conductive part is also necessary, that is.

...got problems... ...wishing i would have never even attempted it to begin with.

We can only imagine the frustration! At least this will serve as a warning to others.

 

[2clicker]

We can only imagine the frustration! At least this will serve as a warning to others.

thats one way to look at it

 

[Egzoset]

Hi again 2Clicker,

thats one way to look at it

Sorry for the limited comfort, on another hand i wouldn't push it to the point of suggesting you should use this opportunity to produce some "How Not To" document!...

 

[Kaptan]

There is a glass chamber! They have shown pictures earlier in the thread and it looks awesome. Probably will have to sacrifice some heatup time for the better flavor though. Time will tell.

I got my power sticker in today, but I'm leaving it off. I love going by taste and feel.

I think this really is the vaporizer to convert combustors. If it had been my first vape, I would have dropped the lighter much faster.

INH005. So tasty. So stealth. So powerful.

I'm shooting my video review this weekend now that I have 2 weeks of testing. Spoiler; this vape is pretty great. A few growing pains in the company, but the crew seems to be busting their butts and it's worth the wait.

No, they do not have an Inhalater with a glass chamber. They will however have glass capsules available. I believe what Egzoset was referring to was the internal heating chamber, which all Inhalaters are lined with polyimide.

 

[2clicker]

Hi again 2Clicker,



Sorry for the limited comfort, on another hand i wouldn't push it to the point of suggesting you should use this opportunity to produce some "How Not To" document!...

haha no sweat. awaiting reply from pharmacor.

 

[Warmen]

Mine arrived today! Although I was at work and have to pick it up from the post office tomorrow

 

[Country-Mac]

No, they do not have an Inhalater with a glass chamber. They will however have glass capsules available. I believe what Egzoset was referring to was the internal heating chamber, which all Inhalaters are lined with polyimide.

I was referring to the capsule, yes. That's why I said there were pictures in the thread.

 

[hiphiphooray]

Emailed pharmacor yesterday about my order. I felt bad adding to their pile of emails, so I tried to be as polite and encouraging as possible.

Within 30 minutes I had a reply with a tracking number. Not only that, but the email was also very sincere and thanked me personally for my patience and understanding.

So this is my 5th email (each email was regarding a different matter) to pharmacor, and my 5th quick generous response. Seems like good customer service to me...

Now I'm curious if those having trouble are just being assholes in their emails. Short, simple and polite goes a long way...

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations Kaptan,
Salutations Country-Mac,

...a glass chamber.

I was referring to the capsule...

Indeed, it seems it was confusing to refer to "an optional Glass Vaporizing Chamber with the Inhalater Inh05", though every word counts considering that reading "optional" should provide a hint to the reader about what the "Glass Vaporizing Chamber" could be exactly. My understanding is that there will be glass capsules after all since those are where dry cannabis is actually vaporized, e.g. inside a "Glass Vaporizing Chamber" but here we say "capsules"...

Hummm... Then i should have written Optional Glass Vaporizing Capsules. Hoping this clears all misunderstanding.



Personally i'd refer to the larger chamber (where those capsules are meant to fit) as an oven, which feels quite similar to the HerbalAire, only it's made lighter to run on portable battery power using a heater with very little mass/heat-retention. An HA crucible is made of aluminium which is an excellent heat-conductor, but yet not transparent to infra-red radiation like polyimide could happen to be i presume: so, in my experience conductive heat may appear to dominate radiative heat in a genuine HA (although aluminium makes excellent radiators too and then these 2 heating modes will just add up) but if one can match an Arizer Solo Glass Stem that will match suitably inside then this wraps the cannabic bowl with glass, which reverses the situation as heat radiated by the aluminium oven assembly shall pass without delay through a bowl's glass wall while "cooking" by conductive heat appears to be effectively tamed down a little (HA timer triggers after 30 minutes)...

Never forgeting the convective component which kicks in during active use, of course.

Consequently, my predictions are that an Inhalater Glass Capsule will make an excellent experiment for Inh05 enthousiasts when it arrives!

Hold on thight people! Hoping we get a couple reviews as soon as possible...

I believe what Egzoset was referring to was the internal heating chamber, which all Inhalaters are lined with polyimide.

That's why I said there were pictures in the thread.

Ah, "internal heating chamber" that should be then! It might as well have been termed amovible but yes, that would be it and i'm glad to learn it's going to be offered as an option with the Inhalater Inh05!

Thank you both. Good day, have fun!! ... With your new Inhalaters...

 

[2clicker]

awaiting reply from pharmacor.

received a reply today with a ship to address. they are going to attempt to fix it. if it cannot be fixed they will replace it.

BE CAREFUL WHEN CHANGING BATTERIES!

i am satisfied with this resolution. thanks pharmacor!!!

 

[mitchgo61]

received a reply today with a ship to address. they are going to attempt to fix it. if it cannot be fixed they will replace it.

BE CAREFUL WHEN CHANGING BATTERIES!

i am satisfied with this resolution. thanks pharmacor!!!

Great news. Good service. Fingers crossed for a fast resolution.

You know how careful I will be? I will never attempt to take the battery out!

 

[hodor]

For any firefly users, do you think this will get more action than your FF?

 

[Egzoset]

Hi again,

...they are going to attempt to fix it.

So i guess the manufacturer is trying his best, that's good to read!

Great news. Good service. Fingers crossed for a fast resolution.

Well it's not possible to systematically prevent all shit to happen but Pharmacor listened and then they expressed a desire to assist it seems. This should nuance previous negativism i guess!

I will never attempt to take the battery out!

I'd probably adopt the exact same attitude in my veranda, though having the option will be a nice inclusive feature for those who come to require it.

Anyway i'm starting to like what i read... Keep up the good work!

 

[mitchgo61]

For any firefly users, do you think this will get more action than your FF?

For me, unlikely. The FF fits my home usage more, and I find the flavor way superior. The INH is going to get plenty of outside-the-house use for sure, though, and even now it makes a great device for extracting the final few high temp hits you can't really get from the FF.

As with most things in life, it's all about using the right tool for the task at hand.

 

[Custom Flower Hardware]

For any firefly users, do you think this will get more action than your FF?

For now yes! Mine is out for delivery

 

[shenron89]

Emailed pharmacor yesterday about my order. I felt bad adding to their pile of emails, so I tried to be as polite and encouraging as possible.

Within 30 minutes I had a reply with a tracking number. Not only that, but the email was also very sincere and thanked me personally for my patience and understanding.

So this is my 5th email (each email was regarding a different matter) to pharmacor, and my 5th quick generous response. Seems like good customer service to me...

Now I'm curious if those having trouble are just being assholes in their emails. Short, simple and polite goes a long way...

I tried being nice in the last 3 emails, just like I had done with the first 4-5 i sent(A lot of emails just had to do with the actual processing of the order). The customer service was on point until they received my money. I tried asking politely for the order info/tracking number and they simply left me hanging for a whole month. I write one semi-heated email and get a response the next day with tracking info.

I love their product first of all(been using my girls XP). And they are very polite when they do answer, but seeing as this is version INH005, they should'a done had the customer service covered. Hell, hire a part time high school kid for minimum wage to help out lol.

To the folks jumping to their defense....If nothing is said or no-one voices their frustrations, then I doubt they will remotely even begin to try and fix the issues. I'm sure they look at posts on here to see where they can improve. Customer Service is one of them.

I do wish Pharmacor Technologies the best for making such an amazing product. I'm not trying to talk shit about them as I purchased their product but I will point out an area they can improve on.

 

[SiDankies]

So does this mean that whenever we try to put in new batteries we are going to risk breaking our units?

So what happens when the bud falls out of the chamber and onto the screen? I wish there was something to hold the bud in.

 

[mitchgo61]

I tried being nice in the last 3 emails, just like I had done with the first 4-5 i sent(A lot of emails just had to do with the actual processing of the order). The customer service was on point until they received my money. I tried asking politely for the order info/tracking number and they simply left me hanging for a whole month. I write one semi-heated email and get a response the next day with tracking info.

I hate to agree with this approach but this is exactly how I got results. I started nice, got persistent but nice, and then got a little heated myself, and that was the point at which I got fast results. I think they are trying to take care of everyone and just don't have sufficient tracking systems or any db management (for example my order still says "processing" on their website, even though I've had it in my hands since last Saturday). When one wheel gets really squeaky, they react to shut it up. It's not good service, and it puts customers in a bind...none of us want to get aggressive just to get info about our orders. Again I don't think there's any issue of integrity with these folks but they are clearly not equipped to be a "retailer". I have my doubts that I'll ever get my five free capsule pack per the FC discount, but I'm also going to give them at least another week before bugging them. Perhaps when the chaos of launch is behind them, things will run more smoothly for them and for us.

So what happens when the bud falls out of the chamber and onto the screen? I wish there was something to hold the bud in.

Nothing. Any material that falls from the capsule will just sit on the screen at the bottom of the heating chamber. I find that loading and unloading the capsule is best achieved while holding the capsule open-side up, and placing the INH upside-down onto the capsule sleeve, much the same way you'd load a Solo (or I would, anyway). This keeps anything from falling out when you insert the capsule, and ensures any material that hits the screen will fall back into the sleeve when you remove the capsule. Piece of cake.

I'd probably adopt the exact same attitude in my veranda, though having the option will be a nice inclusive feature for those who come to require it.

Anyway i'm starting to like what i read... Keep up the good work!

I love the idea of a swappable battery and external charger. It's a godsend with the FF...but it's also really easy to remove and there's zero chance of doing damage. A butterfingers like me will break the INH and set fire to my living room if I try to remove this battery.

 

[SiDankies]

I hate to agree with this approach but this is exactly how I got results. I started nice, got persistent but nice, and then got a little heated myself, and that was the point at which I got fast results. I think they are trying to take care of everyone and just don't have sufficient tracking systems or any db management (for example my order still says "processing" on their website, even though I've had it in my hands since last Saturday). When one wheel gets really squeaky, they react to shut it up. It's not good service, and it puts customers in a bind...none of us want to get aggressive just to get info about our orders. Again I don't think there's any issue of integrity with these folks but they are clearly not equipped to be a "retailer". I have my doubts that I'll ever get my five free capsule pack per the FC discount, but I'm also going to give them at least another week before bugging them. Perhaps when the chaos of launch is behind them, things will run more smoothly for them and for us.



Nothing. Any material that falls from the capsule will just sit on the screen at the bottom of the heating chamber. I find that loading and unloading the capsule is best achieved while holding the capsule open-side up, and placing the INH upside-down onto the capsule sleeve, much the same way you'd load a Solo (or I would, anyway). This keeps anything from falling out when you insert the capsule, and ensures any material that hits the screen will fall back into the sleeve when you remove the capsule. Piece of cake.

And what exactly is stopping the bud from falling out when you turn the unit right side up? I usually pack my solo by just sucking the bud up through the tube and it self packs nice and tight and holds itself in.

 

[mitchgo61]

And what exactly is stopping the bud from falling out when you turn the unit right side up? I usually pack my solo by just sucking the bud up through the tube and it self packs nice and tight and holds itself in.

I guess I'm not sure exactly what you are picturing that is creating concern for you. There's a short, narrow shaft that forms the heating chamber. At the bottom is a screen. (Check out the pix I posted on the previous page.) When you insert the sleeve (with the INH upside-down) and then invert the INH so it's right-side up, yes, material will drop from the top of the sleeve to the bottom (assuming there's any space and it's not packed completely tight). That material will rest on the screen at the bottom of the heating chamber while you use the INH. But it won't go anywhere, or do any damage. (The sleeve length is exactly the length of the chamber. When you insert it so it clicks in place, the edges of the sleeve are at the very bottom of the chamber. No material ever touches the inside of the chamber except on the screen.)

There are only two scenarios....you remove the capsule while the INH is right-side up. Material will sit in the heating chamber, most likely, and little or none will stay in the sleeve. (And now you'll have to turn the INH upside-down to dump it out.) Or you remove the capsule with the INH upside-down, and all the material stays in the capsule. Which is much easier.

There are two terminals that trap the material. A screen at the bottom of the chamber, and a screen at the top (or the bottom, depending on how you hold it) of the capsule. The herb can't go anywhere else. It's either in the chamber or in the capsule.

 

[Vitolo]