Pen Focus Vaporizer
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@luke007, do you see any "oily" parts under the chamber or inside the ring that rotates around the airholes?
I'm doing my first burn in of the day and I'm noticing the hot oil smell even under 200F as the unit heats up from room temperature. I'm about to give up on Focus Pro. It looks like this is something new with the newer batches.
His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
@PPN - @korya .... Is it possible that the tube the battery sits in has a break away? Something along the lines of a weak area of the tube that will give way when pressure is exerted from the inside of the tube?
We have been giving the Focus and Focus Pro a pretty good beat down for quite awhile. The pro in particular has been a daily driver on a road that is driven pretty hard. I only purchase well known, non-counterfeit 18650s and once they become weak .... I may try to run a battery recondition if the weakness is new but once they don't hold up ... out they go.
@PPN - you mentioned trying to get a response from the manufacturer .... please let us know how you feel about the customer service and answer. If you aren't happy several of us could make the same request for an answer.....hell, maybe we should anyway to show how serious we are taking this?
We have been giving the Focus and Focus Pro a pretty good beat down for quite awhile. The pro in particular has been a daily driver on a road that is driven pretty hard. I only purchase well known, non-counterfeit 18650s and once they become weak .... I may try to run a battery recondition if the weakness is new but once they don't hold up ... out they go.
@PPN - you mentioned trying to get a response from the manufacturer .... please let us know how you feel about the customer service and answer. If you aren't happy several of us could make the same request for an answer.....hell, maybe we should anyway to show how serious we are taking this?
Sorry I don't know if they pics are showing. Any help me with uploading pics?
The only oily part was resin but on the bottom the ceramic chamber has 2 metal screens and looks like underneath in the back of the chamber ther was a possible heating element? Again I have no idea as it already came to me damaged.
As for the smell I can tell you I'm getting it from the chamber itself as it darkens when not cleaned regularly
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@His_Highness I dont see anything like this: The positive pole inside the housing is a nut with a spring on it, surrounded by a black insulator wich seems to totaly seal the housing on this side. I guess some one could try to get the insulator out, then put the nut (its propably directly connected to the board) back in and see if theres airflow, but then you missing a crucial part of preventing shorts ![:\](/i/s/hmm.gif "Hmm :\")
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The botton cap is just closed, no chance for venting there.
.The botton cap is just closed, no chance for venting there.
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His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
@luke007 - the link below describes the convoluted method for getting pics to display in-line.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/how-to-post-pictures.155/
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/how-to-post-pictures.155/
SilentRunner
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Unfortunately the focus vape cannot be used by my mom. She can't turn it on. She needs to press four times in a row and she is not fast enough.
How is the focus pro switched on? Does it require a double-press?
How is the focus pro switched on? Does it require a double-press?
It needs triple press...
PPN
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Hi @SilentRunner look at the Starry, it requires a 3s press time like the Prima, HipVap and the Odin I think. Although none vapes from FocusVapes use this.
MonkeyTime
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I haven't done a tear apart on mine, how did you disassemble it? If they come apart easy, I'd be willing to tear one down, maybe even send you the ceramic you need.
Let's see some pics!
**Edit, looks like I was late to the race!
Mhh just watched the pics of luke007, tbh, i dont know how u would solder those wires back on the heating element. Did a quick research how this kind of ceramic heater works but couldnt find anything.
For the oily taste/smell it could be the very well solderflux leftovers on the solderjoints at the heating chamber, cooking everytime you fire up the unit.
For the oily taste/smell it could be the very well solderflux leftovers on the solderjoints at the heating chamber, cooking everytime you fire up the unit.
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Thanks @luke007!
Wow, it looks like the solderjoints are right below the chamber! That pretty much "kills" the notion that the airpath is isolated from the electronics. Some of these solders can contain lead too! So everytime we inhale, the air flowing is over those solder joints?
They should have extended down low resistance wires from the chamber and then soldered them away from the hot chamber.
@luke007, do you remember if there was an airtight barrier between the electronics and the bottom of the chamber?
Another thing: The spring on the + pole nut seems to be just glued on, do i see this right ?? That thing could easily get detatched if its just glued and produce a short. You normally put springs on the negative side in a tube so you ve no chance to short the positve side of the battery with the negative (which is in this case the whole housing...) with the spring.
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Ok guys im back, here are the pictures of the breakdown.
In order to dismantle/modding, wiggle the gold top (1) until it comes off. Then underneath it is going to be a rubber plate (2) that houses the ceramic chamber (4 - mines broken), and around it is insulation (3) and on the bottom of the ceramic chamber has another rubber piece that sits on the bottom housing that has the airflow going to the chamber.
As you can see, there are the 3 air holes for air control there, and next to it a bigger opening for the wires to make contact with the ceramic chamber. Please be careful when removing as the wires could be ripped off the bottom ceramic.
Please note, it looks like there are TWO soldered parts that could come from the H+/H- or the T+/T-. This is what i need help with please.
Hope this helps, really hope i can get this fixed because its one of the better vaporizers i've tried. Any help would mean a lot, and hope someone could help me.
Thank you.
In order to dismantle/modding, wiggle the gold top (1) until it comes off. Then underneath it is going to be a rubber plate (2) that houses the ceramic chamber (4 - mines broken), and around it is insulation (3) and on the bottom of the ceramic chamber has another rubber piece that sits on the bottom housing that has the airflow going to the chamber.
As you can see, there are the 3 air holes for air control there, and next to it a bigger opening for the wires to make contact with the ceramic chamber. Please be careful when removing as the wires could be ripped off the bottom ceramic.
Please note, it looks like there are TWO soldered parts that could come from the H+/H- or the T+/T-. This is what i need help with please.
Hope this helps, really hope i can get this fixed because its one of the better vaporizers i've tried. Any help would mean a lot, and hope someone could help me.
Thank you.
Hi, yes there was. The pictures i posted didnt show this but when the wires go through the bigger hole next to the 3 air holes, it was sealed with clear silicone. Only way for air to pass through would be from the outside air reg. holes directly into the bottom of the chamber itself.
I tried looking everywhere for a teardown for this but nothings up, perhaps still too new?
Thanks.
Re: MONKEY TIME - Yes the teardown is pretty easy, if i had a working one i would do but seems pretty confusing seeing as i got the vape in this state. I did order myself a new one as my friend reimbursed me for it, and might do a teardown of that one when it comes in next week so i can duplicate it on this broken one.
Thank you very much for the teardown pictures.
I'm confused about the three holes next to the bigger one that the electronic wires come in, piece #6 I think? It looks like those holes are at the bottom but not drilled all the way. And there are 3 air holes drilled on the side of piece 6 right?
Also, how about the insulation, it looks darkened? Do you think it's decaying?
Have you noticed if any of the parts are "oily" or burned especially the rubber ones?
Regarding the four wires, I assume two are going to the ceramic chamber and two to the USB port. Are you trying to figure out which wires go to the USB port and the ceramic chamber?
Hi, yes those 3 holes are the adjustable airflow, you cant see it in the picture but from the top each hole makes an "L" which is where your pulling the air from/adjusting the intake. The top of the "L" goes into the chamber and the right side of the "L" is the area that you pick how much flow you want.
The insulation is still pretty good, white/light brown, the reason its dark in the picture is that i had my alcohol swabs sitting on top of it accidentally cleaning everything out, and it absorbed the dirty chamber resin.
There was nothing oily throughout, even under the chamber surprisingly but the rubber seals one is the yellow/orange rubber color, and the other is a light cream color, none look worn out and can be cleaned with an alcohol swab.
When i was moving the wires from the ceramic chamber part, all 4 wires went through the bigger hole next to the 3 air holes. There was nothing that needed to be attached to the usb. I managed to take another pic for you guys.
This is just by judging the wires and the solder under the chamber but i think the T+/T- (copper) go together and are swirled and soldered onto the one side of the ceramic chamber, and the H+/H- (steel?) is attached to the other?
Ya im just trying to figure out what goes where.
Thanks guys.
djurodjakovic
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If I understand correctly there is some kind of silicon/rubber insulation between electronics and chamber? It's good that it's not sucking air thru electronics but I'm not very pleased with silicone/rubber in the path, especially so near the heat source. I was really hopping they avoided that and used only metal, ceramic and glass in the vapour path...
On the battery safety. Did anyone send email to focusvape and ask about this possible issue?
where would you recommend to drill and how big dia?
On the battery safety. Did anyone send email to focusvape and ask about this possible issue?
where would you recommend to drill and how big dia?
@luke007, thank you for the info and the new picture.
Looking at the new picture, it looks like USB port is soldered on the circuit board, right? If that's the case, then I was mistaken initially -- I thought that USB charging port was attached to part 6. I'm also not clear on the wiring. Why are there 4 wires? Can you post one more picture showing the back side of the circuit board where the wires are originating from?
Looking at the new picture, it looks like USB port is soldered on the circuit board, right? If that's the case, then I was mistaken initially -- I thought that USB charging port was attached to part 6. I'm also not clear on the wiring. Why are there 4 wires? Can you post one more picture showing the back side of the circuit board where the wires are originating from?
I think the rubber ring sits under the ceramic chamber and metal housing with the airholes? I'm not please about that either.