Fluxer Heaters, induction heaters for Dynavap

[vandalizedbythelotus]

for anyone having trouble with heating being too aggressive
try this
pulse heating: you can choose to manually pulse the button and extend the heating time thusly mellowing the heating curve and giving the oven more time to heatsoak evenly

 

[lookhigh]

Sort of a hybrid dip and sip?

 

[vandalizedbythelotus]

i mean instead of one continuous press from cold to click, you press/depress a few times until the click resulting in longer heating time and better heatsoak.

normal press= cold __________ click
pulsing press= cold __ __ __ __ __ click

this works to tune the heating curve regardless of coil size so you can make even the tight one heat slower

video of this technique using my homemade IH but the Fluxer should work the same. you can see the voltage drop when the tactile switch inside is activated

 

[flammy]

I would not go for the 14 mm. Even the 15 was a bit too hot for me.
The 15 would be perfect for a water tool bit too harsh for me personally.
We need some way of comparing them side by side.

I just received my Fluxers and I purchased a 15mm and a 16mm version. I chose to leave the 15mm pretty much standard as that will be my OTG option and didn't want more lights or a switch that could get bumped. The 16mm has the external switch and under glass LED.

I also purchased two sets of low drain 18650 (35E) to test in the units as well. To give some perspective on my journey, I emailed to be placed on waitlist on 2/27/19 and my spot was confirmed same day. I received notificaiton that my turn had come up on 10/1/19. Received my invoice and paid (within 20 minutes of receipt) on Friday 10/18 in the AM. Fluxers shipped same day and I received them on Monday 10/21/19...that's crazy fast!

It'll be a little time before I can report back but so far, I'm enjoying them a lot.

i mean instead of one continuous press from cold to click, you press/depress a few times until the click resulting in longer heating time and better heatsoak.

normal press= cold __________ click
pulsing press= cold __ __ __ __ __ click

this works to tune the heating curve regardless of coil size so you can make even the tight one heat slower

video of this technique using my homemade IH but the Fluxer should work the same. you can see the voltage drop when the tactile switch inside is activated

I tried this and it definitely works. Thanks for this suggestion.

 

[lookhigh]

Fast shipping and excellent costumer service are only a small but important part, all included.

 

[mr_cfromcali]

Hi all,

Thanks for the kind words, @flammy and @lookhigh !

Here are several quick updates for the Fluxer-curious. They're quick because I am still finalizing their details, but I haven't posted anything substantial in a few weeks and want to let you folks know what I am working on, Fluxer-wise.

In addition to building heaters and working through the waiting list, I have also been putting a lot of thought into how I can increase my output while still maintaining my quality - the classic "industrialist's problem", lol. This has lead me to re-examine each aspect of the current build with an eye towards reducing the number of separate processes I need complete to make a heater. And yes, this sounds like obvious, first-semester-of-business-school stuff, but I am learning that obvious things only get done if you actually do them.

I won't run through everything I've identified just yet, but one important process that currently takes me a huge amount of time is precisely drilling the 7 or 8 holes required in each case. Even with a custom-built jig to speed this along, this is a multi-step process that requires setup and drilling at two workstations, and at the second of those of those workstations I also need to perform several drill-bit changes and reposition the case for each hole. I conclude the case-drilling process by manually de-burring each drilled hole. The results are great, but each of these steps take time, and some also carry the risk of screwing up and ruining that case.

Now, I enjoy drilling holes and making metal shavings as much as anyone with a workshop does - - but in the interest of serving the hundreds of people waiting for a Flux Deluxe within our respective lifetimes, I'm exploring making an end-run around this whole process and having a run of my cases customized by the factory. This hasn't been possible until now due to the minimum order quantities (MOQ) required for customization, which is 200+ units, which is an investment, lol. Fortunately, I am now in a position to make this happen. I have been going back-and-forth with the manufacturer for the last 4-5 days regarding the details of the CNC process, but that's par for the course. I am hopeful we will have the requirements spec done this week, which will be followed by prototypes, then eventually the delivery of several hundred pre-drilled (but unfortunately not pre-glued!!) cases. More news to come on this once I have it, but this will be a major development when this happens!! My current plans are for these first units to look the same as the current hand made cases, so no redesign for now, but future changes are very possible.

I also have some other things in the works to increase my output, and will share more details of those soon.

Finally, I have also been working on some new videos to show better comparisons of the various coil sizes and how they perform with both ti and SS tips. I have completed recording the preliminary video for the coil size /titanium tip comparison. I am editing those clips now (currently 12 minutes w/a lot of internally empty time, so more editing needed). I'll start recording the coil size/SS tip videos tonight or tomorrow, and hope to get the video wrapped up within the week, as I want to get it posted before making any other announcements, etc. The material in it is long overdue and I want to get it out there.

In order to get these things done in a timely manner, I am waiting a few days before I send out the next set of "confirmation invitations". I hope to send out the next group of invitations either Friday or Saturday. Thanks for understanding!

That's all for now, but more to come pretty soon.

Cheers,

 

[endof3d]

Hi all,

Thanks for the kind words, @flammy and @lookhigh !

Here are several quick updates for the Fluxer-curious. They're quick because I am still finalizing their details, but I haven't posted anything substantial in a few weeks and want to let you folks know what I am working on, Fluxer-wise.

In addition to building heaters and working through the waiting list, I have also been putting a lot of thought into how I can increase my output while still maintaining my quality - the classic "industrialist's problem", lol. This has lead me to re-examine each aspect of the current build with an eye towards reducing the number of separate processes I need complete to make a heater. And yes, this sounds like obvious, first-semester-of-business-school stuff, but I am learning that obvious things only get done if you actually do them.

I won't run through everything I've identified just yet, but one important process that currently takes me a huge amount of time is precisely drilling the 7 or 8 holes required in each case. Even with a custom-built jig to speed this along, this is a multi-step process that requires setup and drilling at two workstations, and at the second of those of those workstations I also need to perform several drill-bit changes and reposition the case for each hole. I conclude the case-drilling process by manually de-burring each drilled hole. The results are great, but each of these steps take time, and some also carry the risk of screwing up and ruining that case.

Now, I enjoy drilling holes and making metal shavings as much as anyone with a workshop does - - but in the interest of serving the hundreds of people waiting for a Flux Deluxe within our respective lifetimes, I'm exploring making an end-run around this whole process and having a run of my cases customized by the factory. This hasn't been possible until now due to the minimum order quantities (MOQ) required for customization, which is 200+ units, which is an investment, lol. Fortunately, I am now in a position to make this happen. I have been going back-and-forth with the manufacturer for the last 4-5 days regarding the details of the CNC process, but that's par for the course. I am hopeful we will have the requirements spec done this week, which will be followed by prototypes, then eventually the delivery of several hundred pre-drilled (but unfortunately not pre-glued!!) cases. More news to come on this once I have it, but this will be a major development when this happens!! My current plans are for these first units to look the same as the current hand made cases, so no redesign for now, but future changes are very possible.

I also have some other things in the works to increase my output, and will share more details of those soon.

Finally, I have also been working on some new videos to show better comparisons of the various coil sizes and how they perform with both ti and SS tips. I have completed recording the preliminary video for the coil size /titanium tip comparison. I am editing those clips now (currently 12 minutes w/a lot of internally empty time, so more editing needed). I'll start recording the coil size/SS tip videos tonight or tomorrow, and hope to get the video wrapped up within the week, as I want to get it posted before making any other announcements, etc. The material in it is long overdue and I want to get it out there.

In order to get these things done in a timely manner, I am waiting a few days before I send out the next set of "confirmation invitations". I hope to send out the next group of invitations either Friday or Saturday. Thanks for understanding!

That's all for now, but more to come pretty soon.

Cheers,

Thanks for the progress update and the continued innovations to streamline the building process and delivery time. Very much appreciated. Respecting that the case design for this run has been finalized, it would be interesting in the future to see the Fluxer logo or some semblance of it “FX” machined (drilled) into the case replacing the current four vent hole configuration. Of course economics is always a consideration, but it would be sweet. Hope this suggestion doesn’t open up a ‘hole’ discussion regarding personal preferences.

Thanks again for all your efforts.

 

[Terpenetime]

I hope to send out the next group of invitations either Friday or Saturday.

Hopefully that will include those that joined the waiting list on the 28th March!

Thanks for the update Mr_C

 

[mr_cfromcali]

Thanks for the progress update and the continued innovations to streamline the building process and delivery time. Very much appreciated. Respecting that the case design for this run has been finalized, it would be interesting in the future to see the Fluxer logo or some semblance of it “FX” machined (drilled) into the case replacing the current four vent hole configuration. Of course economics is always a consideration, but it would be sweet. Hope this suggestion doesn’t open up a ‘hole’ discussion regarding personal preferences.

Thanks again for all your efforts.

Thanks!

My friend who designed the logo had the same thought when we first discussed his design, so I'll let him know he was on to something Yeah, I hope to do a case with design touches like that in the future, but this first batch of pre-machined cases will be very similar to the current cases.

Hopefully that will include those that joined the waiting list on the 28th March!

Welllll....your turn will be here will be soon, @Terpenetime, but probably not in the very next group I email. I added a lot of people to the list in mId-March and need to split March's remaining confirmation emails into two groups. March 28 will be in the second group.

The good news is that I have been building ahead and have a stock of circuit boards that are already ~75% complete - - so I'm hopeful this next group will go more quickly than previous ones. I'll be in touch as soon as I can get to you.

Cheers,

 

[LAWTHEONE]

Placed my order in September. Sounds like I’ve got a long way to go. I’m patiently waiting. I can’t wait until my email comes!

 

[Action]

I bought my girlfriend a Fluxer......I don't smoke but she uses the heck out of it......she loves it......
she did put it in the hole and proceeded to watch it.....I just looked at her and said.....It works better if you push down on it......lol

 

[poison]

Journeys, journeys, journeys...
Did you ever took your FLux Deluxe (or other Induction Heater) to plane in hand luggage? I'm thinking about international flights, not inside US or other countries.
What are you experience people?
I always take my DynaVap and lighters, I'm afraid to get confiscated my stuff.

 

[mr_cfromcali]

Journeys, journeys, journeys...
Did you ever took your FLux Deluxe (or other Induction Heater) to plane in hand luggage? I'm thinking about international flights, not inside US or other countries.
What are you experience people?
I always take my DynaVap and lighters, I'm afraid to get confiscated my stuff.

I have a very tame international example I can share: I brought a Flux Deluxe, a Dynavap Omni XL, and 6x 18650 batteries from San Francisco, US to Vancouver, Canada and back, in my carry on. No one cared.

I went as a plebe without any security screening shortcuts, so my bags were subjected to two regular TSA screenings. My bag was xrayed each time and passed without comment or question. I was not selected for any special searches, and I did not have to explain anything I was carrying. Nothing happened.

Additional notes: The Omni was clean and I did not bring any weed on either flight (Canada is very explicit about this, and with weed legal and abundant in BC there was absolutely no need). If asked, I was going to say it was vaping equipment, which you are permitted to have in your carry on according to the airline's (United/Air Canada, in this case) posted rules. But again, no at either SFO or YVR cared, so I never had to explain it, etc.

Hope that helps. Good luck with your decision.

 

[poison]

In Europe you must get of the bag everything with batteries. (I mean only hand luggage, for example your backpack that you take with you under seat) So they could ask about induction heater, DynaVap isn't problem at all if you keep it clean.
Maybe someone from Europe have some experience.
Thank you for your time mr_cfromcali!

 

[Bearded エーティーエム]

Hi all,

Thanks for the kind words, @flammy and @lookhigh !

Here are several quick updates for the Fluxer-curious. They're quick because I am still finalizing their details, but I haven't posted anything substantial in a few weeks and want to let you folks know what I am working on, Fluxer-wise.

In addition to building heaters and working through the waiting list, I have also been putting a lot of thought into how I can increase my output while still maintaining my quality - the classic "industrialist's problem", lol. This has lead me to re-examine each aspect of the current build with an eye towards reducing the number of separate processes I need complete to make a heater. And yes, this sounds like obvious, first-semester-of-business-school stuff, but I am learning that obvious things only get done if you actually do them.

I won't run through everything I've identified just yet, but one important process that currently takes me a huge amount of time is precisely drilling the 7 or 8 holes required in each case. Even with a custom-built jig to speed this along, this is a multi-step process that requires setup and drilling at two workstations, and at the second of those of those workstations I also need to perform several drill-bit changes and reposition the case for each hole. I conclude the case-drilling process by manually de-burring each drilled hole. The results are great, but each of these steps take time, and some also carry the risk of screwing up and ruining that case.

Now, I enjoy drilling holes and making metal shavings as much as anyone with a workshop does - - but in the interest of serving the hundreds of people waiting for a Flux Deluxe within our respective lifetimes, I'm exploring making an end-run around this whole process and having a run of my cases customized by the factory. This hasn't been possible until now due to the minimum order quantities (MOQ) required for customization, which is 200+ units, which is an investment, lol. Fortunately, I am now in a position to make this happen. I have been going back-and-forth with the manufacturer for the last 4-5 days regarding the details of the CNC process, but that's par for the course. I am hopeful we will have the requirements spec done this week, which will be followed by prototypes, then eventually the delivery of several hundred pre-drilled (but unfortunately not pre-glued!!) cases. More news to come on this once I have it, but this will be a major development when this happens!! My current plans are for these first units to look the same as the current hand made cases, so no redesign for now, but future changes are very possible.

I also have some other things in the works to increase my output, and will share more details of those soon.

Finally, I have also been working on some new videos to show better comparisons of the various coil sizes and how they perform with both ti and SS tips. I have completed recording the preliminary video for the coil size /titanium tip comparison. I am editing those clips now (currently 12 minutes w/a lot of internally empty time, so more editing needed). I'll start recording the coil size/SS tip videos tonight or tomorrow, and hope to get the video wrapped up within the week, as I want to get it posted before making any other announcements, etc. The material in it is long overdue and I want to get it out there.

In order to get these things done in a timely manner, I am waiting a few days before I send out the next set of "confirmation invitations". I hope to send out the next group of invitations either Friday or Saturday. Thanks for understanding!

That's all for now, but more to come pretty soon.

Cheers,

I appreciate you being so open about everything.

 

[HersheyStainz]

#35 FD chimming in. I keep coming back here every other month to read what is new and what not.

I have the 14 mm and see people here questioning if its that agressive heating up...to the point, It is. But man i love this thing. Extracts the herb fully, quickly. You get used to it just fine. Just a beast imo, espcially with a water piece. My friend who tried this the first time with a dynavap and bong was just done after 2 loads.

It really comes down to what you want with your vap cap experience. But my FD been a champ for me daily. Had it since February. Probably best thing i bought for my dynavaps tbh.

 

[flammy]

I've had my Fluxers for just over a week and I'm really enjoying using them. For the most part, I've been using my 16mm but will most likely start to play with my 15mm. I will say that I did not find the 15mm to be too aggressive. It is more aggressive than the 16mm but not overly so IME.

I was also able to use it for 8 days before charging batteries. This will make a great traveling IH. The Fluxer was also slightly warm to the touch when using 20A (30Q) batteries but 10A (35E) seems to have reduced that significantly.

EDIT: The batteries drew down approximately 2200mah (each) during those 8 days. I am going to try my best to do click counts with various batteries (30Q, VTC6, HG2, 35E) and report back. This will take time so bear with me.

 

[mr_cfromcali]

Hi all,

OK, I finally finished editing the two videos I made demonstrating the various Flux Deluxe coil sizes. Here they are:

Each video demonstrates six (!) different coil sizes.

For each coil I demo, I perform (and time) an identical series of three heating cycles:

Heating cycle #1: A full heating cycle, from room temp to 2nd click
Heating cycle #2: A dip & sip cycle from the first cooldown click through the reheat click
Heating cycle #3: A full heating cycle with a warm Dynavap

Following each demo, I display that coil + tip's AVB.

In an effort to make this data more accessible, I've charted the data I gathered for Heating Cycles #1 and #3. These charts are below, and hopefully people will find them informative. I have also posted all of this data (plus screen shots of the AVB for each coil) to the Fluxer Heaters' web site: https://fluxerheaters.com/faq-and-other-resources The new material is halfway down the page. A better, top-level link will be coming soon.

For the following charts, the blue bars are the timings from heater activation to the first click for the heat cycle being times, while the orange bars cover the time between the clicks. I stopped the timing for the orange bar at the 2nd click, not when I actually removed the vapcap from the heater. This seemed more objective and repeatable.

Also, all timings were done with the same set of Sony VTC6 batteries, which were recharged between sessions. I tried to use a full charged battery pack whenever possible.

Chart #1, timings for each coil size, from room temp to 2nd click (Ti tips values on left, SS on right):

Chart #2, timing for each coil size, Dynavap already warm (again, Ti tips values on left, SS on right):

Rather than blather on about this stuff, I am going to leave these here for now for folks to look over. Happy to answer questions about either data or methodology if you have any. Hopefully this material is helpful and makes it easier to pick a coil size.

I wanted to make and publish this material before I send out the next round of order confirmation emails, as I think this data will help inform those decisions. Now that I have published it, I expect to send the next round of the confirmations invitations very soon.

I am still working w/my vendor on finalizing the design of the first custom cases. It has been slow, with some frustrating back-and-firth, but I am hopeful we'll get the spec done this week. I 'll post more news when I have more it.

That's it for now - cheers!

 

[Mr. Me2]

Hi all,

OK, I finally finished editing the two videos I made demonstrating the various Flux Deluxe coil sizes. Here they are:

Each video demonstrates six (!) different coil sizes.

For each coil I demo, I perform (and time) an identical series of three heating cycles:

Heating cycle #1: A full heating cycle, from room temp to 2nd click
Heating cycle #2: A dip & sip cycle from the first cooldown click through the reheat click
Heating cycle #3: A full heating cycle with a warm Dynavap

Following each demo, I display that coil + tip's AVB.

In an effort to make this data more accessible, I've charted the data I gathered for Heating Cycles #1 and #3. These charts are below, and hopefully people will find them informative. I have also posted all of this data (plus screen shots of the AVB for each coil) to the Fluxer Heaters' web site: https://fluxerheaters.com/faq-and-other-resources The new material is halfway down the page. A better, top-level link will be coming soon.

For the following charts, the blue bars are the timings from heater activation to the first click for the heat cycle being times, while the orange bars cover the time between the clicks. I stopped the timing for the orange bar at the 2nd click, not when I actually removed the vapcap from the heater. This seemed more objective and repeatable.

Also, all timings were done with the same set of Sony VTC6 batteries, which were recharged between sessions. I tried to use a full charged battery pack whenever possible.

Chart #1, timings for each coil size, from room temp to 2nd click (Ti tips values on left, SS on right):

Chart #2, timing for each coil size, Dynavap already warm (again, Ti tips values on left, SS on right):

Rather than blather on about this stuff, I am going to leave these here for now for folks to look over. Happy to answer questions about either data or methodology if you have any. Hopefully this material is helpful and makes it easier to pick a coil size.

I wanted to make and publish this material before I send out the next round of order confirmation emails, as I think this data will help inform those decisions. Now that I have published it, I expect to send the next round of the confirmations invitations very soon.

I am still working w/my vendor on finalizing the design of the first custom cases. It has been slow, with some frustrating back-and-firth, but I am hopeful we'll get the spec done this week. I 'll post more news when I have more it.

That's it for now - cheers!

Thanks @mr_cfromcali !

A suggestion for you... Can you add links to these videos (or your post) in your signature and/or on your profile page so people can easily find and watch them and consider your graphs. I expect they will become an important resource and don’t want your info to get buried in this thread.

 

[mr_cfromcali]

Thanks @mr_cfromcali !

A suggestion for you... Can you add links to these videos in your signature and/or on your profile page so people can easily find and watch them. I expect they will become an important resource and don’t want your videos to get buried in this thread.

Sure. Thanks for the suggestion The videos are on both my web site and my YouTube channel, FWIW. But I’ll add links to my profile page and signature here when I’m at a computer.

 

[slcbdco]

After two months the flux is my constant companion! I started off with a 15mm and then switched to a 16mm with thick glass. I’m actually thinking about switching back to 15 but it’s hard to part with this wonderful device for any amount of time. Perhaps once a find a lighter I'll consider it

 

[Baron23]

Hi all,

OK, I finally finished editing the two videos I made demonstrating the various Flux Deluxe coil sizes. Here they are:

Each video demonstrates six (!) different coil sizes.

For each coil I demo, I perform (and time) an identical series of three heating cycles:

Heating cycle #1: A full heating cycle, from room temp to 2nd click
Heating cycle #2: A dip & sip cycle from the first cooldown click through the reheat click
Heating cycle #3: A full heating cycle with a warm Dynavap

Following each demo, I display that coil + tip's AVB.

In an effort to make this data more accessible, I've charted the data I gathered for Heating Cycles #1 and #3. These charts are below, and hopefully people will find them informative. I have also posted all of this data (plus screen shots of the AVB for each coil) to the Fluxer Heaters' web site: https://fluxerheaters.com/faq-and-other-resources The new material is halfway down the page. A better, top-level link will be coming soon.

For the following charts, the blue bars are the timings from heater activation to the first click for the heat cycle being times, while the orange bars cover the time between the clicks. I stopped the timing for the orange bar at the 2nd click, not when I actually removed the vapcap from the heater. This seemed more objective and repeatable.

Also, all timings were done with the same set of Sony VTC6 batteries, which were recharged between sessions. I tried to use a full charged battery pack whenever possible.

Chart #1, timings for each coil size, from room temp to 2nd click (Ti tips values on left, SS on right):

Chart #2, timing for each coil size, Dynavap already warm (again, Ti tips values on left, SS on right):

Rather than blather on about this stuff, I am going to leave these here for now for folks to look over. Happy to answer questions about either data or methodology if you have any. Hopefully this material is helpful and makes it easier to pick a coil size.

I wanted to make and publish this material before I send out the next round of order confirmation emails, as I think this data will help inform those decisions. Now that I have published it, I expect to send the next round of the confirmations invitations very soon.

I am still working w/my vendor on finalizing the design of the first custom cases. It has been slow, with some frustrating back-and-firth, but I am hopeful we'll get the spec done this week. I 'll post more news when I have more it.

That's it for now - cheers!

Thank you...excellent data and you already did my only suggestion, post this to your website.

My only concern is that I did submit your form to get on the wait list and you have already confirmed that there are no confirmation emails sent until your turn is up.

But this does leave me feeling a bit insecure that I am indeed on the wait list. I would hate to find out that my form submission didn't make it to you after waiting six months for me turn. Just saying, some sort of auto-email acknowledging our form submission and addition to the wait list would be welcomed.

Great job, really looking forward to getting my unit when my turn comes up.

I'm def in the 15mm group...seems just right to me.

Thanks

 

[mr_cfromcali]

But this does leave me feeling a bit insecure that I am indeed on the wait list. I would hate to find out that my form submission didn't make it to you after waiting six months for me turn. Just saying, some sort of auto-email acknowledging our form submission and addition to the wait list would be welcomed.

I hear your concerns, @Baron23 . I'll see what I can do to improve that part of the process in the future. For now, though, I feel confident I have received every email the waiting list form has generated, provided the submitter entered their email address correctly.

For me, the bigger challenge is improving my output to the point where I can actually gain some ground on this list - my goal is to build heaters, not compile lists of names. I'm working on that. In the end, I need to find some more efficient ways of building these, because although I have enjoyed making the first 155 of these by hand, I am not sure I want to make another 600 or 1000 of these using the same methods. Fluxer Heaters' quality is good, but its methods still have some room for improvement, lol.

Thanks again for the suggestion! I'll work on it.

 

[poison]

My Flux Deluxe has arrvied.
Serial: #148
Extra options: External switch, light under coil when heating.
Coil: 15mm

This is my third IH, the smallest one. Very satisfied.
I recommend 15mm coil only for advanced users. Most of dynaheads should choose 16mm (for Ti tip) imho.

 

[mr_cfromcali]

Outstanding, @poison ! I am happy that it reached you as quickly as it did! I think yours may be the first I've sent to Poland.

Updated to add:
I had to check, and it was only 8 days in transit. I mailed it on October 22 and it is presently October 30 here in fire-ravaged California. Nice to know that a speedy international delivery is also possible, lol.

May it work well for you!