Firewood Vaporizer

BabyFacedFinster

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I will wait and see too.

When the 9 came out, there was very little in terms of videos of actual use or even letting us take a good look at it. Finally, some users posted their own videos on Youtube to help others (like me) understand what they were buying. My hope is with the coming release of the X, maybe Marc could make just one video actually showcasing the vape and, dare to ask, maybe even show how to load, use, and unload it.

This pre-sale with nothing more than a few pictures doesn't give me much hope tho. I'm a visual learner, so maybe others don't have this need. For those that get vapes early, please consider posting some vids. (Thank you in advance ;))
 
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PossumMD

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I will wait and see too.

When the 9 came out, there was very little in terms of videos of actual use or even letting us take a good look at it. Finally, some users posted their own videos on Youtube to help others (like me) understand what they were buying. My hope is with the coming release of the X, maybe Marc could make just one video actually showcasing the vape and, dare to ask, maybe even show how to load, use, and unload it.
I'd argue that everything bar changing the battery was covered by the videos, etc for the fw8.

I think you should give up this dream of getting the capsule in there and just learn to use it as it is designed... It's always humorous when people discuss modding of a vape they do not even have in hand yet... Perhaps I don't fully understand, but what you described is not sound feasible at all
What they want is the FW4.
 

WhyWhyWhy?

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Again, as I was explaining before, FW 8/9 are not capsules in the traditional sense, they are not useful in any other thing, they are removable chambers... If this one does not have a removable chamber, it cannot be fully cleaned the same way, but it sounds like the chamber is upgraded and so is the heater?

I think you should give up this dream of getting the capsule in there and just learn to use it as it is designed... It's always humorous when people discuss modding of a vape they do not even have in hand yet... Perhaps I don't fully understand, but what you described is not sound feasible at all
Yes, I've figured out how things are. My idea is to make another capsule/camera or insert out of metal along with the camera or the original ceramic capsule, which would have a reduced space under the flowers or a capsule from a third-party manufacturer (Fury, Xmax). I don't think it's unrealistic. But I really want to wait for Firewood X and look at the situations. Perhaps Mark will offer his capsule system for the new device.

I am also considering using Firewood X as is. The idea of a grass cache built into the device itself is excellent, it's very successful. But there is a problem with dosing for people with low tolerance, like me.
 
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PossumMD

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Yes, I've figured out how things are.
Nearly everything you've typed after that says you haven't. I suggest you stop trying to modify a vape you haven't seen or used and instead take comfort in the fact that given its based on the FW7, and the 7 shines with small loads, you're probably gonna be fine without the capsule.

Edit: and you seem to think this is a beta product anyway, why bother designing a modification when it's not the final version?
 

WhyWhyWhy?

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What they want is the FW4.
Were there any special features with capsules in version 4?
Yes, I've figured out how things are.
Nearly everything you've typed after that says you haven't. I suggest you stop trying to modify a vape you haven't seen or used and instead take comfort in the fact that given its based on the FW7, and the 7 shines with small loads, you're probably gonna be fine without the capsule.

Edit: and you seem to think this is a beta product anyway, why bother designing a modification when it's not the final version?
Yes, I just like to think a lot)) I don't think that's the problem))

Capsules are also an incredible convenience for me - I have a container with a large number of pre-prepared capsules.

I don't think there will be improvements to this version, I just think that we don't know all the characteristics of the Firewood -10 and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that there is a capsule system for them (ceramic removable bowls). We'll see..
 
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Kaptan

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Were there any special features with capsules in version 4?

Yes, I just like to think a lot)) I don't think that's the problem))

Capsules are also an incredible convenience for me - I have a container with a large number of pre-prepared capsules.

I don't think there will be improvements to this version, I just think that we don't know all the characteristics of the Firewood -10 and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that there is a capsule system for them (ceramic removable bowls). We'll see..
I would be very surprised that a capsule system will be incorporated in the FW X as it was already mentioned there is a taper in the bowl for easy herb removal. As stated earlier, just use the vape as it is intended or try to get a FW 9 with capsule bowl.

Edit: ha page 420!
 

Shit Snacks

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I just like to think a lot)) I don't think that's the problem))

Well as someone who tends to think a whole lot myself, I do think it is a bit of a problem personally lol

But also I have FW7 and FW9, and from what I know about FWX, what you described just doesn't make sense to me? The fabrication and the configuration, implementation?

When you post all the details it's understandable you're going to get reactions from people who feel differently I suppose... Personally I am not really a fan of capsules like that in general, prefilling etc, I still haven't really tried doing it with my FW9 even though that is why I've got it
 

PossumMD

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Were there any special features with capsules in version 4?

Yes, I just like to think a lot)) I don't think that's the problem))

Capsules are also an incredible convenience for me - I have a container with a large number of pre-prepared capsules.

I don't think there will be improvements to this version, I just think that we don't know all the characteristics of the Firewood -10 and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that there is a capsule system for them (ceramic removable bowls). We'll see..
The FW4 had capsules like you want. The FW8/9 and 9 doesn't. You can't have a large number of them ready to go. They have no lid. They're either in the caddy that can hold only 3, or they are sitting in a container, empty. The FW4 capsules enable you to do this, with their only "special feature" being that you can't use the vape without them.

I would be so surprised that there turns out to be a capsule system that I would bet everything I own and will own in the future on there not being one. Marc has made no mention of there being a removable bowl nor any indication of one coming, something that I would think would be used as an advertising point to attract people such as yourself. Marc has even said that the FWX is more similar to the 7 than the 9. I literally have no idea how you can say that you wouldn't be surprised when you've never owned *any* FW, nor seem to be familiar with them and how they work.
 
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delta hotel

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I'll be honest, I've seen more than a few times here where someone wanted to take a vape, released or not, and suggested or started filing, sanding down, or cutting whole chunks off to incorporate some strange third party item (look now it has a clock/radio!). Small modifications are sometimes necessary, but I've seen what I judged as some pretty zany ones here.

I have NEVER understood it, but I admit it gives me a giggle or at least a head scratch sometimes. If you want to buy something, weld a cup to it, tape a tazer, wire in a CB radio and only use it standing on one hand juggling with your feet - MORE POWER TO YOU!

The hyper focus on wanting one particular and specific thing (Firewood X), but needing it to also incorporate another, separate function (capsules) is how we get new things and ideas.
 
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PossumMD

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The hyper focus on wanting one particular and specific thing (Firewood X), but needing it to also incorporate another, separate function (capsules) is how we get new things and ideas.
The last model of FW could do what they wanted, it isn't a new idea in this case. I get what you're saying in regards to innovation leading to new technologies, but I'd be incredibly surprised if it's even possible to do what they want, let alone it leading to any kind of change in the field.
 

delta hotel

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The last model of FW could do what they wanted, it isn't a new idea in this case. I get what you're saying in regards to innovation leading to new technologies, but I'd be incredibly surprised if it's even possible to do what they want, let alone it leading to any kind of change in the field.
Oh for sure, I 100% agree with you, but the sentiment remains! We're in top paragraph territory here.
 
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bardad

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If I understand correctly, the stem of the fw10 is wider, it does not narrow at the neck of the tube. If that is the case, then the air path could be more open. That would probably be one of the most important reasons for me, right after the design, to add the fw10 to my collection.
Everything else leaves me cold for now.
I would also be pleased with the ability to fix the button or temperature.
When I vape with friends, I take venty for that.
 
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borbjorbis

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There is a large number of temperatures you can choose from if the previous models are anything to go by.
I think what he means is that he'd like to be able to use the Firewood in session mode for easier passing around, which I can understand, but ultimately that's not really what the FW heater is designed for. People call it a battery-powered Dynavap for a reason, right? (Although if you ask me it's way more powerful than a DV)
 

bardad

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I want autofire just so I don't have to hold the button down during the hit, like a 30sec auto heat once pressed, and you can press again to end it earlier, would be great for my use
yes yes, that sounds like it would suit me too, if I understand it correctly. My idea is something like a button lock, either mechanically or software-wise, with the option to revert at any time.
 

cx714

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I know wild speculation is part of the fun but @Kaptan reposted part of Marc’s pre-release email that lays things out pretty clearly:
This is more similar to a fw7 than a fw9. The oven and lid is a lot like fw7, but with a tiny bit more power, a slight taper at the bottom of the bowl to make it easier to empty, and a window in the lid so you can see the progress as your herbs cook.
As an FW7 owner, this put my VAS on pause. FW7 is plenty strong for my low-temp, small-load sessions. The window might reduce wear from sliding the lid open to check doneness, but with a bit of use, you kind of get a feel for it anyway.

The size is a little smaller overall than the fw7 or 9. It is about 5/8 inch shorter, about 1/8 inch taller and a tiny bit thicker.

The new mouthpiece connection allows connecting to most standard stems that are no more than 1/2" diameter. An adapter tube is no longer needed. The mouthpiece sticks out about 0.7 inches.
Slightly more than a half-inch shorter with a non-retractable mouthpiece that juts out slightly more than a half-inch. Possibly better ergonomics but more fragile bc of the exposed stem, so scratch?

Other changes are that it should now charge using any usbc cable (only worked with usba-usbc before) and a larger button.
I mainly use external chargers but any > only in the cable dept. Never had issues with my button but have seen people’s complaints about the current one.

All in all, if I didn’t already have a FW7, I’d be pretty excited. Seems like Marc’s getting away from the capsule system and going back to an on-the-go-loadable bowl, possibly at the expense of the 8/9’s added convection.

Look forward to the early reports from all you squeaky wheel gamma testers out there. 😉
 
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Lozo

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I do love my FW7 too and that the retractable stem is a big bonus for me, I'm looking forward to hear more about the 10, I was slow on the uptake but my FW9 Bowl version should arrive Monday.

I just broke my 7 stem so ordered a Hula 75mm stem to get back in action, this version I have is slightly bigger in diameter than the original, did these change as I see there’s a V2 version of the Hula stem (what I bought). It works but had to remove the padding
 
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Cdwhit

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I’m already sold. Does Marc do pre-orders? I’m not really interested in a Beta, but I already want the production model.
 
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zatonic

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I’m already sold. Does Marc do pre-orders? I’m not really interested in a Beta, but I already want the production model.
Nope. Just weekly drops in the beginning. Sometimes selling out quick so you have to keep an eye on the site for in stock.
 
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