Firewood Vaporizer

[oddjobold]

One thing that worries me a bit is the wear and tear of the wood and closing/seal system and tolerance with use as it has to be opened and closed at least two times in the beginning and middle/end of a bowl load/ session.

This is also a concern for me. Its almost like firewood vapes have come so far that i am not sure wood is the best material for construction anymore.

I did also have the same concerns with the FW5. However in fairness i did not see any signs of wear, after much use. I was super paranoid about dropping it though.

Would love to see the design of the FW6 in metal!

 

[muunch]

Very interesting design... can't wait to try this.

In addition there are some heat isolation features that the fw5 heater didn't have, which also contribute to better performance.

Awesome - always a good thing to hear.

instead of having 3 heat levels that can be tweaked up and down there will be 3 heat levels that can be set to anywhere within a range of temps

Can you expand on this a bit?

Also curious to know how the battery life is on this.

 

[Sativapo]

This is also a concern for me. Its almost like firewood vapes have come so far that i am not sure wood is the best material for construction anymore.

I did also have the same concerns with the FW5. However in fairness i did not see any signs of wear, after much use. I was super paranoid about dropping it though.

Would love to see the design of the FW6 in metal!

Yes I was worried too but my fw5 is like new. It almost gets better. In metal it would loose in insulation I think. The ceramic wood and oring combination is well thought.

 

[Brewervapesalot]

I think wood works very well. Anyone who has hand tools realizes that it's a pretty awesome material against wear and seems to get better with age.

My firewoods get beat on, shows no sign of age, and I love how it never gets hot in my hand.

 

[Sativapo]

My firewoods get beat on, shows no sign of age, and I love how it never gets hot in my hand.

You're right but with this one it seems you have to use a "complex" slide mechanism (not just slide a tray or open a chamber) and open the whole device multiple times per bowl.

 

[oddjobold]

@firewood

This maybe a stupid question, but you can carry the FW6 with bowl loaded right?

 

[Sativapo]

It wouldn't be a portable otherwise

 

[firewood]

This is also a concern for me. Its almost like firewood vapes have come so far that i am not sure wood is the best material for construction anymore.

I did also have the same concerns with the FW5. However in fairness i did not see any signs of wear, after much use. I was super paranoid about dropping it though.

Would love to see the design of the FW6 in metal!

I really believe wood is still the best choice for a vape body. The heat conductivity and capacity are much lower than metal. 120F metal burns you, 120F wood feels nice. Wood is also a lot lighter than metal, so I can do active things without it feeling like a have a brick swinging around in my pocket. Metal is probably cheaper if stamped but requires very large orders to become cost efficient. Machined metal is very expensive. Wood has challenges due to the grain causing problems during machining and also limiting the possible shapes, but is cheap and fast to machine compared to metal.

I suppose I could have made the lock switch from a more durable material. Partly I am trying to push the envelope of what people think wood is capable of doing in a consumer product, and partly because I am all set up for wood machining so it is easy to just make everything from wood. I am confident it will last for years and if not it is easily repairable.

Can you expand on this a bit?

Also curious to know how the battery life is on this.

I'll figure out what the lowest and highest temps than anybody will want are. Then there will be a bunch of steps, I'm not sure how many at this point but probably dozens spaced evenly from the lowest temp to the highest. The user gets 3 heat settings (2 clicks, 3 clicks, or 4 clicks) that will start as a default of low, medium, and high (I'll just pick an appropriate level for each). The user can change each setting to whatever heat level they want. So for example, if you using it in a group and afraid somebody will accidentally change the set level, you could set all 3 to the same heat level, that way it is always the same temp. Or maybe you want all 3 to be very hot but just slight variations on hot. It just gives a little more flexibility than the fw5 system. Battery is about the same as fw5, but each bowl can be bigger, so might be fewer bowls.

@firewood
This maybe a stupid question, but you can carry the FW6 with bowl loaded right?

Yes!


Editing to answer a couple questions from previous page:
regarding smell - hard for me to say because smell varies so much person to person, but I could definitely no smell it if it was in another person's pocket. Maybe some people can?

Yes, the ceramic bowl can be easily removed for cleaning.

Tolerances for fw6 actually don't need to be as tight because of the spring loaded seal between the heater and bowl. All of the dimensions that are important are machined during a single fixturing and mostly with a single tool, so the tolerances aren't too hard to make.

 

[Hjalmark]

I really believe wood is still the best choice for a vape body. The heat conductivity and capacity are much lower than metal. 120F metal burns you, 120F wood feels nice. Wood is also a lot lighter than metal, so I can do active things without it feeling like a have a brick swinging around in my pocket. Metal is probably cheaper if stamped but requires very large orders to become cost efficient. Machined metal is very expensive. Wood has challenges due to the grain causing problems during machining and also limiting the possible shapes, but is cheap and fast to machine compared to metal.

I suppose I could have made the lock switch from a more durable material. Partly I am trying to push the envelope of what people think wood is capable of doing in a consumer product, and partly because I am all set up for wood machining so it is easy to just make everything from wood. I am confident it will last for years and if not it is easily repairable.
I'll figure out what the lowest and highest temps than anybody will want are. Then there will be a bunch of steps, I'm not sure how many at this point but probably dozens spaced evenly from the lowest temp to the highest. The user gets 3 heat settings (2 clicks, 3 clicks, or 4 clicks) that will start as a default of low, medium, and high (I'll just pick an appropriate level for each). The user can change each setting to whatever heat level they want. So for example, if you using it in a group and afraid somebody will accidentally change the set level, you could set all 3 to the same heat level, that way it is always the same temp. Or maybe you want all 3 to be very hot but just slight variations on hot. It just gives a little more flexibility than the fw5 system. Battery is about the same as fw5, but each bowl can be bigger, so might be fewer bowls.
Yes!


Editing to answer a couple questions from previous page:
regarding smell - hard for me to say because smell varies so much person to person, but I could definitely no smell it if it was in another person's pocket. Maybe some people can?

Yes, the ceramic bowl can be easily removed for cleaning.

Tolerances for fw6 actually don't need to be as tight because of the spring loaded seal between the heater and bowl. All of the dimensions that are important are machined during a single fixturing and mostly with a single tool, so the tolerances aren't too hard to make.

Might you be willing to consider 20700 batteries? Maybe FW7?

 

[elykpeace]

@firewood Marc it looks awesome! I'm so ready


Come to papa

 

[oddjobold]

I really believe wood is still the best choice for a vape body. The heat conductivity and capacity are much lower than metal. 120F metal burns you, 120F wood feels nice. Wood is also a lot lighter than metal, so I can do active things without it feeling like a have a brick swinging around in my pocket. Metal is probably cheaper if stamped but requires very large orders to become cost efficient. Machined metal is very expensive. Wood has challenges due to the grain causing problems during machining and also limiting the possible shapes, but is cheap and fast to machine compared to metal.

I suppose I could have made the lock switch from a more durable material. Partly I am trying to push the envelope of what people think wood is capable of doing in a consumer product, and partly because I am all set up for wood machining so it is easy to just make everything from wood. I am confident it will last for years and if not it is easily repairable.
I'll figure out what the lowest and highest temps than anybody will want are. Then there will be a bunch of steps, I'm not sure how many at this point but probably dozens spaced evenly from the lowest temp to the highest. The user gets 3 heat settings (2 clicks, 3 clicks, or 4 clicks) that will start as a default of low, medium, and high (I'll just pick an appropriate level for each). The user can change each setting to whatever heat level they want. So for example, if you using it in a group and afraid somebody will accidentally change the set level, you could set all 3 to the same heat level, that way it is always the same temp. Or maybe you want all 3 to be very hot but just slight variations on hot. It just gives a little more flexibility than the fw5 system. Battery is about the same as fw5, but each bowl can be bigger, so might be fewer bowls.
Yes!


Editing to answer a couple questions from previous page:
regarding smell - hard for me to say because smell varies so much person to person, but I could definitely no smell it if it was in another person's pocket. Maybe some people can?

Yes, the ceramic bowl can be easily removed for cleaning.

Tolerances for fw6 actually don't need to be as tight because of the spring loaded seal between the heater and bowl. All of the dimensions that are important are machined during a single fixturing and mostly with a single tool, so the tolerances aren't too hard to make.

Now i have heard your reasons for using wood, my concerns have been answered to some degree. I agree the FW5 pushed my ideas of what could be acomplished in wood, sure the FW6 will push it further.

I already have money set a side for the FW6.

 

[Monk Debate]

I am so ready for this vape. I love how it looks closed and I love that there’s a built in locking mechanism for when you’re not using it. I’ll feel much better carrying it in a bag or pocket that way. Using pressure to activate the heater instead of the button means you can just palm the device and squeeze, and the thin mouthpiece means it looks relatively discreet. The storage space lets you load up for an outing without carrying extra tubes or containers.

I feel like there was a lot of thought put into how to make this the best portable device it can be, instead of shrinking down a desktop design. The whole form and function works together to make this a superior portable vape, a device you can just grab and go, load and hit. I appreciate the attention to those little details and the novel solutions to the problems of portable vaping.

 

[Chingas]

This one.

I've been lurking on the Firewood for years. Never was around for the first two. 3 got some nice reviews. Looked out of my range, I was a noob. Pass.

4 looked pretty cool. Too bad about the addon cu clunkiness. The worst was the folks saying the 3 was better. Tough to desire a 4 after that.

The vapestapler 5, well...there's going to be a 6, right?

Hot damn! Yup! This thing looks thoughtfully made. It looks like a combo of experience and problem solving all came together at once.

 

[Sativapo]

while you are stirring you can really easily scoop in a few extra flakes of herb on top of the nearly done avb and you get a freshy at the end of the session. Name me another vape where you can get a freshy on the last draw!

I was kind of doing that with the 5 sometimes when at home and not too busy. It should be really nice being able to do it on the go when out and about!

 

[Hjalmark]

Pretty sure hands-down the firewood brand is the most innovating vape maker on the market AND HE IS ONE PERSON!

Freaking amazing

 

[rvarick]

At home when I have more than one strain to choose from, I could see using the onboard storage for any extra material after grinding which doesn’t get packed, and then getting a nice “mix and match” bowl out of it later.

 

[lookhigh]

Can the storage compartment accommodate a container of sorts?
Or can it be shaped to fit one?
Smell will always permeate the wood like my dynastash. My wife could smell where i would leave the stash.

 

[Hjalmark]

Can the storage compartment accommodate a container of sorts?
Or can it be shaped to fit one?
Smell will always permeate the wood like my dynastash. My wife could smell where i would leave the stash.

My wife is also a god damn nark

 

[Sativapo]

Can the storage compartment accommodate a container of sorts?
Or can it be shaped to fit one?
Smell will always permeate the wood like my dynastash. My wife could smell where i would leave the stash.

That seems difficult but I was thinking the same thing as a minus in the 5-6 comparison especially for prohibitionnist countries airports etc.. The fw5 tray gets smelless with iso.

 

[letter never sent]

I’m definitely intrigued by this new Firewood. What’s the battery life like?

 

[lookhigh]

Battery's are swappeable so its not a big issue to me.

 

[Mr Mellish]

This one.

I've been lurking on the Firewood for years. Never was around for the first two. 3 got some nice reviews. Looked out of my range, I was a noob. Pass.

4 looked pretty cool. Too bad about the addon cu clunkiness. The worst was the folks saying the 3 was better. Tough to desire a 4 after that.

The vapestapler 5, well...there's going to be a 6, right?

Hot damn! Yup! This thing looks thoughtfully made. It looks like a combo of experience and problem solving all came together at once.

I think you missed out. The 3, 4 and 5 all have things that recommend them. However, the biggest miss, in my opinion, is the flavor you can get with the FW series that I don't get with other vapes.

 

[Trulukkyphrank]

I'm interested in the vapor path, it looks ''shorter'' than the fw5 vapor path that has the tubular tube. How is the cooling process in the fw6? I'm sure marc has made a great job..

 

[Hjalmark]

Battery's are swappeable so its not a big issue to me.

And actually the last design it looks like they are "quick swap" instead of screwing off lids or like the grasshopper with its puny batter

 

[firewood]

Might you be willing to consider 20700 batteries? Maybe FW7?

I hadn't really thought about it and I think I'd be hesitant to consider it due to the larger size. I calculate a 21700 to be 47% larger volume than 18650 and they only have about 33% more capacity, so seems like lower energy density at this point.

Can the storage compartment accommodate a container of sorts?
Or can it be shaped to fit one?

That seems difficult but I was thinking the same thing as a minus in the 5-6 comparison especially for prohibitionnist countries airports etc.. The fw5 tray gets smelless with iso.

Smell will always permeate the wood like my dynastash. My wife could smell where i would leave the stash.

It would be hard to fit a container without some sort of modification. With modification there is definitely a bit of space to work with. However, I am not sure how anybody would be able to smell herb inside the vape but not smell the resin buildup - that stuff is pretty stinky too. Also comparing to the fw5 - the fw5 chambers are not sealed off either so I would expect smell to be similar. I definitely can't say for sure though... some people just have a bloodhound nose that acts in ways that I don't understand.

I’m definitely intrigued by this new Firewood. What’s the battery life like?

It depends how you pack the bowls and how much you cook them but I'd say easily 4 large bowls, maybe a lot more if you microdose.

I'm interested in the vapor path, it looks ''shorter'' than the fw5 vapor path that has the tubular tube. How is the cooling process in the fw6? I'm sure marc has made a great job..

The ceramic part of the vapor path is a little shorter but the glass is a little longer. I think the effect is pretty similar, not sure if I can notice a difference.


Edit - oops my battery calc is wrong because I was using 21700, not 20700. So the volume is actually 33% larger. Basically the same energy density. I am still not crazy about the bigger size though. What do other people think?