Firewood Vaporizer

[scion34]

I was hoping to see at least one last drop of the FW9s and was so pleasantly surprised when he did I was naughty and grabbed two as backups, absolutely phenomenal devices.

Secretly hoping he keeps both lines going, what saddens me a bit and not talked about yet is the loss of the completely removable and cleanable ceramic oven with the 10, such a huge plus in my book and why I’ve purchased three FW9s. Solves such a huge common issue with portables and taste/airflow degradation over time!

 

[deaneaux]

I was hoping to see at least one last drop of the FW9s and was so pleasantly surprised when he did I was naughty and grabbed two as backups, absolutely phenomenal devices.

Secretly hoping he keeps both lines going, what saddens me a bit and not talked about yet is the loss of the completely removable and cleanable ceramic oven with the 10, such a huge plus in my book and why I’ve purchased three FW9s. Solves such a huge common issue with portables and taste/airflow degradation over time!

You're giving me FOMO because I only have one FW9 backup!! You hit the nail on the head about the removable bowls. Flavor in my FW7 has suffered over time because of a charred bowl. FW9 is fully dunkable, and when flavor starts missing, slap in a fresh one.

 

[CougheeCakes]

I'm betting those batteries are not safe to use, so now I need to find some new batteries quickly. Are there any legit decent 20-amp high discharge batteries on Amazon?

Don't buy on amazon. Buy from either 18650batterystore.com or LiIon Wholesale.
Both are legit and ship as fast as you do.

Molicel/NPE INR-18650-P30B 30A 3000mAh Flat Top 18650 Battery - Authorized Distributor

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[rvarick]

Speaking of batteries, has anyone tried a Molicel P50B in their Firewood X (or otherwise)? See they have a higher mAh (capacity), along with a slightly higher continuous discharge.

Speaking of the X, after my first use I ended up bumping the presets up to 380/410/440 for my use case. They were set at 350/380/410 out of the box.

Edit: Whoops, 50B is a 21700, not an 18650 . Looks like P30B is the one for me.

 

[Nobody-knows-666]

Received my X today. Haven't taken the device for a spin yet, but I did try out a couple different mouthpiece options for aestheics. I quickly landed on likely using a (short) Mistvape Beaded glass stem with a wood mouthpiece. This fits quite nicely (images below). I also thankfully had some leftover felt pieces from my Firewood 7 which helped to stop any minor stem rattle.

https://imgur.com/fx7e5AH

https://imgur.com/B1H26dj

https://imgur.com/NpqmDZ5

p.s. Was pleasantly surprised to see that the storage components were included with mine (must have come into stock around the same time). Wanted to share in case anyone else has one en route, and if so - you may want to hold off ordering these separately.

That stem looks great. I got one without the storage components. I've watched the video and can't really figure out how they work.
I'm assuming the base is below your flower and the top is above the flower. Is it convenient? Would you buy the parts or just carry a small stash?

Just got my firewood X in today as well and also had both storage parts! What a great surprise! So far really enjoying this little device, and it's an absolute pleasure to use. Def looking forward to 3rd party stems/mouthpieces with a *bit* more cooling! At first I wasn't sure about the internal storage, but I actually think I'm gonna try it out and see if it makes filling a little easier.

EDIT: What temps are everyone settling on? Gotta admit 440 has been enjoyable for fast, heavy vaporizing!

What 3rd party mouthpieces are you looking at? I'm getting a knock-off BB9 from Smoke6. I've also been using the stem from my Angus Enhanced with some cooling balls in it.

 

[rvarick]

That stem looks great. I got one without the storage components. I've watched the video and can't really figure out how they work.
I'm assuming the base is below your flower and the top is above the flower. Is it convenient? Would you buy the parts or just carry a small stash?


What 3rd party mouthpieces are you looking at? I'm getting a knock-off BB9 from Smoke6. I've also been using the stem from my Angus Enhanced with some cooling balls in it.

I haven't tried using the storage yet, but based on the design the bent piece stays in and sits below the flower, offering a small reservoir for it along with a ramp to get material into the bowl (both due to the bend). Then the flat piece would slide above the flower/on top, to close the "container".

Added bonus on the X is the storage components will keep any stray bits from the bowl from falling inside your device (although these would be easy to blow out). Minor cons though are the storage could add more parts to fail/get in the way, and with them in place getting a stem in is kind of a blind, "by feel" exercise (vs. being able to see inside the middle of the device).

The Firewood 6 had an all-wood storage container, so the metal was mildly surprising; but it should stay cleaner I suppose. I wasn't sure I'd use the 6's storage container much, but ended up using it a lot. In particular, the ability to "freshen up" a bowl with a little green is pretty great. Although this could be done with another storage container too (doob tube, etc.).

 

[Scratic]

Marc shipped me the storage pieces. For the life of my I cannot get the “base” piece of metal fully inserted. Anyone have success with this? I can get it 95% but then the wood lid won’t fully close.

Same, and now part of my lid sheared off while trying to get the storage pieces in place.

 

[deaneaux]

Speaking of batteries, has anyone tried a Molicel P50B in their Firewood X (or otherwise)? See they have a higher mAh (capacity), along with a slightly higher continuous discharge.

Speaking of the X, after my first use I ended up bumping the presets up to 380/410/440 for my use case. They were set at 350/380/410 out of the box.

Edit: Whoops, 50B is a 21700, not an 18650 . Looks like P30B is the one for me.

I'm finding the same - temps need to be bumped a bit to match the vapor production of the 9. Where I generally run 380 in the 9, I need to run 410 with the X. Oddly enough, running the X at 380 gives less vapor BUT makes the mouthpiece much hotter than anything I've ever experienced with the 9. (I'm running an XL dynavap body with a simrell stinger MP on the X)

 

[floribud]

Got my X two days ago, but using it nonstop. I love the flavor and vape quality, but the fit and finishi of the sliding bowl cover, still seems like a work in progress. The glass catches on the ceramic of the bow area that sticks up a bit above the wood, Every time I try to slide on the cover I have to bend it up a little to get the glass over the lip. Worried that the cover is going to break or at least the glass will pop out.

Other than that, I love the size and I think the performance is WAY beyond the 7, 8 or 9.

Here's some pics, the last one shows the "lip" that the glass gets hung up on

https://imgur.com/a/NmVfWz5

 

[Grass Yes]

The glass catches on the ceramic of the bow area that sticks up a bit above the wood, Every time I try to slide on the cover I have to bend it up a little to get the glass over the lip. Worried that the cover is going to break or at least the glass will pop out.

I have this exact issue. I love this vape but that weed window is not going to last.

 

[Kaptan]

For anyone having issues installing the storage compartment - I was having the same issue, which the storage cover wouldn’t close all the way. DO NOT try to FORCE It closed with cover. You will most likely damage the glass with too much pressure. Instead, use the included tool to push the tray back out (from stem hole) and then continue to pull it out from the other side. Once out, you will see 2 bends in the metal. You want to slightly increase the 2 bends, one at a time. Using a flat surface and the included tool assisted me with this. Now when you reinsert, it should slide all the way and allow the storage cover to slide all the way closed.

 

[Nobody-knows-666]

I have this exact issue. I love this vape but that weed window is not going to last.

100% agree. That lip has to be cut down. Everytime I take the top off and replace it, I feel like I'm going to break it.

 

[ColdAssistant]

For anyone having issues installing the storage compartment - I was having the same issue, which the storage cover wouldn’t close all the way. DO NOT try to FORCE It closed with cover. You will most likely damage the glass with too much pressure. Instead, use the included tool to push the tray back out (from stem hole) and then continue to pull it out from the other side. Once out, you will see 2 bends in the metal. You want to slightly increase the 2 bends, one at a time. Using a flat surface and the included tool assisted me with this. Now when you reinsert, it should slide all the way and allow the storage cover to slide all the way closed.

I had issues with inserting the herb chamber as well. I eventually used a little metal ruler and positioned it across the base and kind of push it in until even with the rails - it will almost click. Don't try using the lid, you will ruin it I am sure.

 

[bearwrestlingwolf]

I'm finding the same - temps need to be bumped a bit to match the vapor production of the 9. Where I generally run 380 in the 9, I need to run 410 with the X. Oddly enough, running the X at 380 gives less vapor BUT makes the mouthpiece much hotter than anything I've ever experienced with the 9. (I'm running an XL dynavap body with a simrell stinger MP on the X)

Coming from the FW7 and also reserving opinion on it until I get a new set of batteries I’m finding the same.


FW7 I never messed with the settings and usually ran it on 2 or 3 and vapor was perfect. I’ve kicked the FATX to 400/420/440 and don’t find the vapor production that well outside of unregulated.

 

[raisin]

Unfortunately never used another version of the Firewood for comparison, but I'm enjoying 380/390, and completely able to evenly roast a bowl at that temp, but also enjoying the faster/stronger extraction at 440.

 

[bardad]

hello,
i still wanted to try a bigger and freer draw, here without extra cooling like the original glass stem.
i just added a hole-intake of fresh air.
it is possible to cover it or run your finger over it intermittently.
material old bamboo cone that i used to hit into a birch tree trunk years ago to tap sap. so it is soaked with old fermented sap from an interesting place near a flooded quarry where we go to swim all year round.
the draw is now open and fragrant.
i love this vape.
there is one less seal in the steam path

https://imgur.com/a/cuHE41J

 

[delta hotel]

hello,
i still wanted to try a bigger and freer draw, here without extra cooling like the original glass stem.
i just added a hole-intake of fresh air.
it is possible to cover it or run your finger over it intermittently.
material old bamboo cone that i used to hit into a birch tree trunk years ago to tap sap. so it is soaked with old fermented sap from an interesting place near a flooded quarry where we go to swim all year round.
the draw is now open and fragrant.
i love this vape.
there is one less seal in the steam path

https://imgur.com/a/cuHE41J

Gonna need you to mail me one of these

 

[bardad]

Gonna need you to mail me one of these

if it would make you very happy, why not?
I still have this prototype, but I didn't have any other materials at home today and more time.

https://imgur.com/a/sl2ys3z

 

[bearwrestlingwolf]

Yeah fresh set of batteries and honestly feels like it’s weak vapor production unless it’s ran unregulated and even that takes a few seconds to ramp up.

Gonna clean up my FW7 and compare and make sure I just doesn’t have rose-tinted glasses towards it before I email Marc to ask if potentially some of the heaters are off.

 

[Bob “Rob” Roberts]

Yeah fresh set of batteries and honestly feels like it’s weak vapor production unless it’s ran unregulated and even that takes a few seconds to ramp up.

Gonna clean up my FW7 and compare and make sure I just doesn’t have rose-tinted glasses towards it before I email Marc to ask if potentially some of the heaters are off.

Got bless you early adopters for doing what you do.

 

[Grass Yes]

Yeah fresh set of batteries and honestly feels like it’s weak vapor production unless it’s ran unregulated and even that takes a few seconds to ramp up.

Gonna clean up my FW7 and compare and make sure I just doesn’t have rose-tinted glasses towards it before I email Marc to ask if potentially some of the heaters are off.

It's interesting. So far I'm finding the heater more powerful than the FW7 (never had an 8/9). I like 380, but at 410 I could even scorch a bit.

It might be partially because my draw is more suited to convection so that might be a factor? Or maybe that's nuts.

 

[PossumMD]

It's interesting. So far I'm finding the heater more powerful than the FW7 (never had an 8/9). I like 380, but at 410 I could even scorch a bit.

It might be partially because my draw is more suited to convection so that might be a factor? Or maybe that's nuts.

Yeah, I've found if I go at it all at once I'll scorch it slightly, but if I take my time and have a pause or two it doesn't. The fw7 did have the firmware update back in the day as some users were getting combustion, could be something similar going on here.

 

[Duba]

My unit (beta) is clearly underpowered, I'm at 440°F for a roast that can't go to combustion. Less powerfull than my Fw7. A come back to Marc is planned.

 

[rvarick]

As someone who's also wondering if their X is underpowered, FWIW I'll at least mention something mildly surprising I saw in the manual if helpful. It says to wait 5-10 seconds after the "it's heated" buzz before starting your first draw. I wasn't doing this, and was noticing that my first hits were kinda meh, while a 2nd subsequent hit was much better. I was surprised to see those instructions coming from the 7, which in my case is ready to go right at the buzz. I've also noticed what seems like a more convection lean with the X vs. the 7. The vapor and the roast reminded me of what I see with my RBT Milaana 2: golden brown and extracted, but with no dark/scorching. I was also wondering if the more open draw may have been allowing me to overpower the heater. This was all before I bumped my temps up though, and I also have a brand new battery on the way.

I haven't had a chance to retest a bunch more with: a delay before drawing, higher temps, new battery, and better draw speed discipline/feel like I work towards with convection devices - but I'm hopeful at the moment the X will just be a different, but still good Firewood for me. I'll report back. I'm also interested to see what others hear back - especially if there's more heater capacity that can be "unlocked" firmware-wise.

p.s. If I'm remembering the FW 7 firmware update, I think this was simply to adjust what temps the user/each setting "thinks" are being aimed for, vs. changing the heating profile/capacity, etc. People were seeing charring at supposedly lower temps, so the firmware was changed to more correctly identify (for most users) what each setting was actually hitting temp-wise. For instance if you were seeing char at what was supposedly 420 degrees F before (4 clicks, then 2 clicks on the setting), this was in reality more like 450 degrees. Or said another way, while the original manual listed the top temp as 440, in reality the device was capable or 470. I never sent mine back for the change, and instead just created a table which listed the new temp guidelines for reference.

 

[zatonic]

My unit (beta) is clearly underpowered, I'm at 440°F for a roast that can't go to combustion. Less powerfull than my Fw7. A come back to Marc is planned.

How old is your battery? I'm noticing a difference in power for sure in one of my older batteries. Thinking of tossing an old P28A's and picking up a couple P30B's... Unless someone can recommend a better batt?