stonedBBer
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How well does thr FATX do rosin and "traditional" style hashish hash
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Firewood Vaporizer
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The FW9 does very well with bowls of flower with a bit of hash. However, the hash stains the ceramic bowls. Not much a problem with the FW9 as it has removable bowls. (I have 2 bowls dedicated for flower/hash bowls.) Since the FatX does not have a removable bowl, I would not run any hash through it. But I am guessing it would work well if keeping the device clean was not a concern.
sterkrazzy
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Nvm, got my tracking number...I hate how it goes when you order things on a friday.
sterkrazzy
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I just got mine so I've only used it once, but so far I like it a lot. I didn't realize how much I was going to like certain things. I thought the window was pointless, but it's actually kinda nice to have. I kinda felt the same about the storage area, but now seeing how easy it'd be to just slide it into the bowl I think I'll actually use it. It's also way smaller and lighter than I expected. The airflow as open as it is is nice. I hate it when it's like trying to drink a milkshake.
I think I had it on 380 degrees at first and that didn't seem hot enough. I finished the bowl at 420 and it definitely got hot enough at that temp. It almost smelled like it was close to combusting and the avb was very dark. I'll have to try 390-410 and find a happy middle spot.
I already found there's a certain way I can hold it and it kinda reminds me of holding a bowl, it's comfortable.
I think I had it on 380 degrees at first and that didn't seem hot enough. I finished the bowl at 420 and it definitely got hot enough at that temp. It almost smelled like it was close to combusting and the avb was very dark. I'll have to try 390-410 and find a happy middle spot.
I already found there's a certain way I can hold it and it kinda reminds me of holding a bowl, it's comfortable.
Bob “Rob” Roberts
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My 10 arrived today.
Agreed, I thought the window was just plain silly and that extra flower stash just seemed wonky.
After using it all afternoon, my thinking did a nice turn around, this little thing rocks.
Agreed, I thought the window was just plain silly and that extra flower stash just seemed wonky.
After using it all afternoon, my thinking did a nice turn around, this little thing rocks.
buffalosoldier11
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How is the hit performance? Could it be compared to a Solo 3, TM2, or any other Firewoods?
Orvaxxx
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Hi, does anyone know if this can be fixed?
Octavia
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Do you have the broken piece of wood? If you do (and feel handy), you can glue it back with some CA glue. Wasn’t too difficult, but definitely didn’t need nearly as much as I used.
You could also contact Marc and see if he’s willing to repair. He offered to fix mine for free (I just pay shipping), but not sure if that’s still an offer.
Orvaxxx
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Already contacted Marc but no reply yet.
Haven’t got the broken piece, haven’t used it in a while, noticed it when I was comparing the 9 with the X which I just got.
Octavia
No thoughts, head empty
Aw, that’s unfortunate. Hopefully he gets back to you soon, usually takes a week or 2 in my experience.
sterkrazzy
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I'm still kinda messing around with mine. I've been using it for a couple days now and so far I think it seems like it needs a finer grind, and I think it needs to be packed down a bit. Now that I've grinded it finer I haven't tried packing it looser though. It's got a bit more of a learning curve than something like the TM2. No matter what or how I tossed it in the TM2 it would always work. I don't know if I could get a hit as big as I could with my TM2 either, but that's not really something I'm into anyway. On the other hand...the hits on the fat x are so much cooler. My throat actually feels better and it hasn't been as phlegmy. The fat x also has the most natural tasting hits.
So far it is by far my favorite vape to use. I've had pax's (lol), an e-nano, weedeater/b1, tm2, and a lobo, and none of them are a cooler experience than the fat x. I think maybe its because I used to be such a big bowl smoker and this is the closest thing I've had to that kind of ritualistic way of smoking. I mean you gotta pack the bowl and the tamp it down a bit, but then you're also doing that with the tools that are built into the vape. The top cover that slides off is perfect for packing the bowl down and the metal cover to the storage compartment is perfect for pushing weed into the bowl. When I get down to the last couple hits I take the top cover off again and use it to pack it down a little more. The glass window lets you see if you've got any hits left, just like you could do with a glass bowl.
The button location on the tm2 is probably my biggest dislike about it, but that's perfect on the fat x. I've got like 3 different ways I like to hold the FX and none of them are awkward.
I'm not sure I could consider it a heavy hitter, or maybe I'm doing something wrong and it can be, but everything else about it is so much better that that doesn't matter.
What have other people tried for getting the most out of a bowl? I've seen a couple people say shoving a whole nug into it works, but I haven't tried that. So far I'm thinking a finer grind and then pack it down a little, like a loose pack to the top of the bowl and then pack it down so it's below the air inlets.
So far it is by far my favorite vape to use. I've had pax's (lol), an e-nano, weedeater/b1, tm2, and a lobo, and none of them are a cooler experience than the fat x. I think maybe its because I used to be such a big bowl smoker and this is the closest thing I've had to that kind of ritualistic way of smoking. I mean you gotta pack the bowl and the tamp it down a bit, but then you're also doing that with the tools that are built into the vape. The top cover that slides off is perfect for packing the bowl down and the metal cover to the storage compartment is perfect for pushing weed into the bowl. When I get down to the last couple hits I take the top cover off again and use it to pack it down a little more. The glass window lets you see if you've got any hits left, just like you could do with a glass bowl.
The button location on the tm2 is probably my biggest dislike about it, but that's perfect on the fat x. I've got like 3 different ways I like to hold the FX and none of them are awkward.
I'm not sure I could consider it a heavy hitter, or maybe I'm doing something wrong and it can be, but everything else about it is so much better that that doesn't matter.
What have other people tried for getting the most out of a bowl? I've seen a couple people say shoving a whole nug into it works, but I haven't tried that. So far I'm thinking a finer grind and then pack it down a little, like a loose pack to the top of the bowl and then pack it down so it's below the air inlets.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Aside from a full bowl, better 3/4 full, of medium fine grind consistent well packed, I like going low and slow, long slow draws, letting go of the button but fully getting all the heat and vapor out each hit, really milks a bowl for many hits for me that way, then temp stepping up a bit... ~300-380F
Orvaxxx
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He got back to me, in about 4 days.
I am sending it in for a new body.
Has anyone found another brand dosing capsule size which fits the FATx oven? I love using dosing capsules for a variety of reasons (prefilling them with one of my loading trays for easy refilling, keeps the oven cleaner, more uniform extraction, etc) but don't know what size fits or how they'll perform with this vape's airflow.
I remember about six years ago there was the Fury2 screen dosing capsule which had a metal screen lid - those were only sold for a limited time but I think they'll fit (the trouble is they were discontinued like five years ago!). So I'm trying to find something else easier to access (without having to build my own custom capsules from scratch lol)
Oh yeah, I also thought y'all might appreciate being the first to know that I worked with JoDa Glass to produce two new glass accessories for the Firewood 10 - a longer 145mm dimpled cooling stem (nearly double the length of the OEM stem!). With a bit of added flair by JoDa in his signature style of course. We also whipped up a FATx 14mm waterpipe adapter as well. I honestly can't wait to give this sucker a spin with water filtration to see how it performs! Both cooling stem and adapter are available now on the website in limited quantities ready to ship
I remember about six years ago there was the Fury2 screen dosing capsule which had a metal screen lid - those were only sold for a limited time but I think they'll fit (the trouble is they were discontinued like five years ago!). So I'm trying to find something else easier to access (without having to build my own custom capsules from scratch lol)
Oh yeah, I also thought y'all might appreciate being the first to know that I worked with JoDa Glass to produce two new glass accessories for the Firewood 10 - a longer 145mm dimpled cooling stem (nearly double the length of the OEM stem!). With a bit of added flair by JoDa in his signature style of course. We also whipped up a FATx 14mm waterpipe adapter as well. I honestly can't wait to give this sucker a spin with water filtration to see how it performs! Both cooling stem and adapter are available now on the website in limited quantities ready to ship
sterkrazzy
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I actually ended up ordering the 145mm stem last night, with a slim case.Has anyone found another brand dosing capsule size which fits the FATx oven? I love using dosing capsules for a variety of reasons (prefilling them with one of my loading trays for easy refilling, keeps the oven cleaner, more uniform extraction, etc) but don't know what size fits or how they'll perform with this vape's airflow.
I remember about six years ago there was the Fury2 screen dosing capsule which had a metal screen lid - those were only sold for a limited time but I think they'll fit (the trouble is they were discontinued like five years ago!). So I'm trying to find something else easier to access (without having to build my own custom capsules from scratch lol)
Oh yeah, I also thought y'all might appreciate being the first to know that I worked with JoDa Glass to produce two new glass accessories for the Firewood 10 - a longer 145mm dimpled cooling stem (nearly double the length of the OEM stem!). With a bit of added flair by JoDa in his signature style of course. We also whipped up a FATx 14mm waterpipe adapter as well. I honestly can't wait to give this sucker a spin with water filtration to see how it performs! Both cooling stem and adapter are available now on the website in limited quantities ready to ship
I can tell you a potv lobo dosing cap doesn't fit. It wasn't even really that close.
I am getting to really like this thing. The physical design is really good. Just realized today that the storage compartment lid can be used as a de-bowler as well as a bowl filler/scraper. The wood lid makes a useful tamper. So a complete system. And absurdly light, compared to TM2, or a couple crappy Chinese plastic vapes that my kid has.
While the physical design is excellent, i still like the TM2 better (and it also has a superb physical design), because the TM2 "operating system" is so much simpler- analog dial, one button. Two modes. Can be turned off, and back on again.
Because the FATX lacks the dial, and, in my opinion tries to do too much with three heating modes and trying to make those modes equal actual claimed temperatures, it has a somewhat baroque click and buzz based operating system. That lacks an "off" function.
Because the physical design is so good, and because i can ignore most of the operating system, and use the excellent "strip of cardboard" off-switch idea suggested by someone upstream, this is getting lots of use chez moi despite these quibbles.
While the physical design is excellent, i still like the TM2 better (and it also has a superb physical design), because the TM2 "operating system" is so much simpler- analog dial, one button. Two modes. Can be turned off, and back on again.
Because the FATX lacks the dial, and, in my opinion tries to do too much with three heating modes and trying to make those modes equal actual claimed temperatures, it has a somewhat baroque click and buzz based operating system. That lacks an "off" function.
Because the physical design is so good, and because i can ignore most of the operating system, and use the excellent "strip of cardboard" off-switch idea suggested by someone upstream, this is getting lots of use chez moi despite these quibbles.
Pangolin 6
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User @WhyWhyWhy? has experimented with capsules...
Here's a link to the most relevant post (i think, there was a few...) and the relevant bit is quoted below.
sterkrazzy
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I still can't get over how much less harsh the vapor this thing puts out is on my throat. Am I the only one experiencing this? lol
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can only imagine it has something to do with the ceramic heater and wood build, instead of the standard metals and plastics.
I've been hawkin up phlegmy loogies for a while now. Combustion smoking does that to me, and every vape I've ever bought does that to me. I've been clearing my throat out so much less though. It almost feels like I haven't even been smoking the last few days, but I've been getting ripped. I'm coughing less during sessions too. Even my sinuses feel clearer.
I've gone through an e-nano, a flowerpot weedeater/b1, a tm2, and a lobo potv...none of those were really better or worse for my throat. The potv lobo might be the harshest and I think some of that has to do with the airflow being more restricted, and that's the last vape I was using daily.
With the fat x there's a noticeable difference in how my throat feels that I've never had from any other vape...
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can only imagine it has something to do with the ceramic heater and wood build, instead of the standard metals and plastics.
I've been hawkin up phlegmy loogies for a while now. Combustion smoking does that to me, and every vape I've ever bought does that to me. I've been clearing my throat out so much less though. It almost feels like I haven't even been smoking the last few days, but I've been getting ripped. I'm coughing less during sessions too. Even my sinuses feel clearer.
I've gone through an e-nano, a flowerpot weedeater/b1, a tm2, and a lobo potv...none of those were really better or worse for my throat. The potv lobo might be the harshest and I think some of that has to do with the airflow being more restricted, and that's the last vape I was using daily.
With the fat x there's a noticeable difference in how my throat feels that I've never had from any other vape...
Haha yeah - I was surprised to see an order come through so fast on the new listing. I promise your order will ship soon - I've been getting slammed with more work than I anticipated recently
That's awesome! Thanks for the link! So it's the Hyperdyn Dosing Capsules eh? Shame they're out of stock.
I wonder if I should try to make my own dosing capsules from 316 stainless. Only issue is the dang matte finish of my stainless steel printers. I really need to invest in a proper ceramic polisher.
Maybe I'll just find a machine shop to help me build custom dosing capsules from something like titanium instead. That would be fun.
Yeah I think that's my biggest issue, I don't draw out the heat sufficiently after depressing the trigger. I still haven't had a chance to dig out my waterpipe and give it a spin
sterkrazzy
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It was good timing. lol
That night I was doing some googling for stems for this thing and most of what I saw seemed like people were piecing their own together with dynavap parts or using old firewood 7 stems that aren't really available anymore. I think I found yours when I switched my search over to firewood 7 stems instead of fat x stems.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
The trick is to get your timing down, let go of the button earlier, midway, so you can keep inhaling to clear... Pretty much the same technique I will use with any on-demand vape, and a large part of why I don't like session style, FW is different being more hybrid conduction, so that is what I mean with the timing. Shorter hits are possible, but then much less time on the button is needed, and a higher temp might be better... I like long slow draws with low low temps and I have no trouble taking steady deep inhale to fully clear in one hit each hit. Keeps everything much cleaner, and functions much more efficient in my experience. It is actually harder to do with a water pipe as opposed to dry? So you might like a hook, with good visuals, you can literally see the vapor flow, thickening and then thinning once power is off, as you keep inhaling
sterkrazzy
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I realized that's something I should work on last night. I took a hit and kept inhaling until it did the cooling down vibration. Without pressing the button again I took another hit, it was a small one but I got some vapor. Then I took another hit without pressing the button again and I still got some vapor, it wasn't much but it was definitely there.
It seems to retain heat really well.
It's been working pretty well the way I've been using it, but it also makes me think due to the conduction that I might also be cooking the bowl more than I should be.
It seems to retain heat really well.
It's been working pretty well the way I've been using it, but it also makes me think due to the conduction that I might also be cooking the bowl more than I should be.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
That's exactly, what I am getting at, try lowering your settings even further, that is why I like to run so low, the heat builds and retains, so can get full extraction regardless