Discontinued Elevape SV

[pecosthecat]

I've been really enjoying the elevape. It has been working great for me, although I accidentally combusted once with it. (By the way, thanks for the good advice on getting the nasty taste removed). I haven't tried any of the mods, yet. I need to take some time to read through the whole thread and figure out the best configuration in order to get the most out of the unit.

 

[OF]

I need to take some time to read through the whole thread and figure out the best configuration in order to get the most out of the unit.

Glad your unit is back on line and you're enjoying it.

Sounds like a good plan to me, and unlike some vapes the thread isn't so long your son will have to finish for you.......... Lots of good experience based advice there, but I don't think there's any one best configuration out there, at least not for all owners. One of the really neat things about ESV is you can fine tune it to suit your tastes/needs.

Fortunately if you avoid some of the Doctor's mods that need power tools you can change back to factory trim and start again. My personal advice is to start with coil tilt trying to eliminate/control uneven vaping across the load, that is avoiding or limiting 'hot spots'.

It's also worth noting that 'the ultimate tune' on one unit will not necessarily work on the next. I have two, one set on steps 1, 3 and 6 right now. The other gives basically the same results on steps 8, 10 and 14.

So the only way to deal with it is to experiment I think. Easier if you process a couple grams of bud first so you can easily repeat things. Trying to hit it in a uniform manner also helps.

Enjoy your project. Take all the time you need to do a good job.

OF

 

[pecosthecat]

Good advice there, OF I'm going to leave it in stock configuration and see how I go for the time being. It seems to working very well straight out of the box. I am going with the stock settings for the temperature and usually stick to positions 1 & 2. The only time I combusted was when I took a hit without realizing that it had been bumped up to the third position. My inhale was slow and steady which resulted in combustion.

The design of this vaporizer really suits my usage. I like to keep my tolerance low and usually take only a few hits at a time. Nice convection taste and no need to turn on or go through a start up ritual. Just whip it out, take a few tokes and Bob's your uncle.

 

[nosmoking]

@pecosthecat Are you using the stir lid by chance?

I am getting a new setup on Monday and I can't wait to try it out without modification as my previous ESV went through all the steps that you will find in this thread and I ended up with the bottle cap screen method in the end. It performed well with all the modifications, however I remember it working pretty darn good right out of the box as well.

 

[pecosthecat]

Yes, I am using the stir lid as well as the latest firmware.

 

[Mr Mellish]

When I was traveling, I decided to try the bottle cap method. The smoke shop I stopped in had only flimsy brass screens but I bought them. It improved things but the flimsy screen was a bit of a PITA.

Upon returning home, I switched to SS. The difference was night and day. The flavor as compared to the brass is much better and now I never even think about stirring. No need at all.

 

[Shit Snacks]

While I've been waiting for my production Zion, I had been relying on my Lily and Firefly more lately (a little Underdoggin too). With my Firefly suddenly in need of repair (that'll be #4 if its replaced), I found myself returning to my ESV.

Totally reminding me why I bought it before Firefly originally, I still think it's is overall the better vape at least imo for nice strong flavorful puffs, super efficient getting nearly 20 puffs a bowl probably, course medium fine grind all work fine at level 1, occasionally boost at level 5 but its not so necessary for my use lately.

Even though I was blown away by my beta Zion and always had high hopes for the Hopper, I think the Elevape remains the overall best on demand electronic pure convection unit that is currently available today... We'll see what the future holds but nearly a year and a half since i got it the ESV is still more than holding its own!

 

[Mr Mellish]

While I've been waiting for my production Zion, I had been relying on my Lily and Firefly more lately (a little Underdoggin too). With my Firefly suddenly in need of repair (that'll be #4 if its replaced), I found myself returning to my ESV.

Totally reminding me why I bought it before Firefly originally, I still think it's is overall the better vape at least imo for nice strong flavorful puffs, super efficient getting nearly 20 puffs a bowl probably, course medium fine grind all work fine at level 1, occasionally boost at level 5 but its not so necessary for my use lately.

Even though I was blown away by my beta Zion and always had high hopes for the Hopper, I think the Elevape remains the overall best on demand electronic pure convection unit that is currently available today... We'll see what the future holds but nearly a year and a half since i got it the ESV is still more than holding its own!

What temps are you using and how long are your draws? I feel like I'm pretty much draining a full load in 8 hits (10 second draws on standard 3 setting -- although someone suggested "standard" was a misnomer).

 

[Shit Snacks]

What temps are you using and how long are your draws? I feel like I'm pretty much draining a full load in 8 hits (10 second draws on standard 3 setting -- although someone suggested "standard" was a misnomer).

All on level 1 305, so with a medium grind the hits just keep coming and coming, regular 8sec puff (draw a sec after light goes out too to clear), and this is bowl 3/4 full give or take.

EDIT:
That's also with the bottle cap screen, but opening to stir and flip every hit. Also it was closer to 15 hits taken maybe, but I was stopping before it was kicked but it still kept putting out clouds and avb could clearly go much further, hence I estimated at 20 total

 

[Vape Dr.]

What temps are you using and how long are your draws? I feel like I'm pretty much draining a full load in 8 hits (10 second draws on standard 3 setting -- although someone suggested "standard" was a misnomer).

@Mr Mellish I use the same temps as @Shit Snacks I usually stay at 305F sometimes with a moister content I might bump it up to 310F.
I vape sour diesel specifically which is always the same moisture content.

Even in stock form with the stir lid I stay at these temps with a medium grind from a space case.

It's important to remember, LESS IS MORE with the Elevape. I pack 3/4s of a chamber like @Shit Snacks and will consistantly get at least 18 tasty vapory draws.

 

[Mr Mellish]

@Mr Mellish I use the same temps as @Shit Snacks I usually stay at 305F sometimes with a moister content I might bump it up to 310F.
I vape sour diesel specifically which is always the same moisture content.

Even in stock form with the stir lid I stay at these temps with a medium grind from a space case.

It's important to remember, LESS IS MORE with the Elevape. I pack 3/4s of a chamber like @Shit Snacks and will consistantly get at least 18 tasty vapory draws.

Thank you, sirs! I will give this a try.

ETA: I've been running at 375!

 

[btka]

do not think the temps are the same from esv to esv... especially after changes like coil angle and bottle cap...

 

[OF]

do not think the temps are the same from esv to esv... especially after changes like coil angle and bottle cap...

No, definitely not.

Nor are they the same as what other vapes report (or 'what's really going on'). There's been some useful talk lately about 'setting for 305F'? The 305 isn't right. Try it and see. Here's what I did, I used a conduction vape (VM Pro in my case) set to 305F for 20 minutes of 'sipping'. Very little visible vapor (probably water??), some modest tastes, but no color change. It came out crisp but basically the same otherwise.

Putting that in my ESV I then got basically 'normal' vapor from it. To me this is clear, to completely vape you need more than 305F. ESV must be producing more heat than that at least in some conditions?

OF

 

[httmfr]

Really nice advice using a screen on the oven lid and then still being able to add the stir attachment back to it. I was constantly pulling material into my unit before and having to regularly clean the insides and the mouthpiece screen (I don't even use that fine of a grind!). Took me a while to get through this whole thread but I am sure glad I did. Getting great, tasty hits off this thing now. I can see this vaporizer being my daily driver for the foreseeable future.

 

[chillersnov8p]

My early unit is still chugging along but wondering if I should send it in to Joe now for an update or wait for an issue to arise. Is performance increased with the update? Probably have the battery switched out at the same time even though it hasn't gone down much. Joe's email is..?

 

[nosmoking]

My early unit is still chugging along but wondering if I should send it in to Joe now for an update or wait for an issue to arise. Is performance increased with the update? Probably have the battery switched out at the same time even though it hasn't gone down much. Joe's email is..?

joe@ipuffUSA.com

 

[chillersnov8p]

Thanks!

 

[OF]

Is performance increased with the update? Probably have the battery switched out at the same time even though it hasn't gone down much.

Yes, it is. An increase in useful battery life of about 1/3. And the potentially fatal (to the battery) 'use while charging' issue is prevented, protecting the battery.

Joe will test your battery when it's serviced and replace it if it no longer meets spec (usually from 'hammering' a discharged battery with 'use while charging'), otherwise no free battery replacements? Mine tested fine still so it came back.

You do understand you can do the upgrade yourself if your serial number is much over 100? That's what I did with my original unit. Only 'the first 100' need to go back for software changes so they can accept the upgrade.

OF

 

[Mr Mellish]

Yes, it is. An increase in useful battery life of about 1/3. And the potentially fatal (to the battery) 'use while charging' issue is prevented, protecting the battery.

Joe will test your battery when it's serviced and replace it if it no longer meets spec (usually from 'hammering' a discharged battery with 'use while charging'), otherwise no free battery replacements? Mine tested fine still so it came back.

You do understand you can do the upgrade yourself if your serial number is much over 100? That's what I did with my original unit. Only 'the first 100' need to go back for software changes so they can accept the upgrade.

OF

And how does one do this, @OF? I expected to see firmware version and an option to update within the smart app but if it's there, I'm missing it (certainly wouldn't be the first time I've missed something right in front of my face).

 

[OF]

And how does one do this, @OF? I expected to see firmware version and an option to update within the smart app but if it's there, I'm missing it (certainly wouldn't be the first time I've missed something right in front of my face).

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/elevape-sv.13517/page-77#post-820423

http://www.elevapesmart.eu/download

BTW, in looking for that link, I came across a post from Joe. Serial numbers over 123 have the upgrade to the unit so owners can load the new software (don't need to be returned):
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/elevape-sv.13517/page-76#post-815115

OF

 

[chillersnov8p]

My unit # is 38 so will have to send it in. Good to hear battery life is increased!

 

[Mr Mellish]

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/elevape-sv.13517/page-77#post-820423



BTW, in looking for that link, I came across a post from Joe. Serial numbers over 123 have the upgrade to the unit so owners can load the new software (don't need to be returned):
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/elevape-sv.13517/page-76#post-815115

OF

So it turns out the ability to see your firmware and update it is exclusive to Windows. Good to know that I wasn't totally missing the obvious... As it turns out, Joe assures me I have the latest firmware. To be honest, I had no complaints, just figured I would update if the option was there.

 

[Enchantre]

My unit # is 38 so will have to send it in. Good to hear battery life is increased!

I did. It is worth it!

 

[Vape Dr.]

No, definitely not.

Nor are they the same as what other vapes report (or 'what's really going on'). There's been some useful talk lately about 'setting for 305F'? The 305 isn't right. Try it and see. Here's what I did, I used a conduction vape (VM Pro in my case) set to 305F for 20 minutes of 'sipping'. Very little visible vapor (probably water??), some modest tastes, but no color change. It came out crisp but basically the same otherwise.

Putting that in my ESV I then got basically 'normal' vapor from it. To me this is clear, to completely vape you need more than 305F. ESV must be producing more heat than that at least in some conditions?

OF

@OF I agree the temps on the elevape are not entirely accurate but they are a guide line of what to set your unit to.

I have tested the temps of flowermate vaporizers and they are all way way off.
I wouldn't put too much trust in any FM vape temperatures being accurate, or using it as a basis for the temp test.

I also know that Elevape also has gone through several different types of coils trying to get the most accurate temps, so yes I agree from unit to unit people will have different results.

I would actually use just about any other vaporizer than a FM to try to get accurate temps.

Just my

 

[OF]

@OF I agree the temps on the elevape are not entirely accurate but they are a guide line of what to set your unit to.

I have tested the temps of flowermate vaporizers and they are all way way off.
I wouldn't put too much trust in any FM vape temperatures being accurate, or using it as a basis for the temp test.

Yep, a useful guideline. Relatively if not absolutely accurate. That is higher settings are hotter and repeatable. I'm not so sure about your FM, but I did a quick thermocouple test on this one (and the Mini) when I got them. I only checked at 390F, IIRC it was within a few degrees, dropping I assume with a hit (I couldn't figure out how to snake the T/C leads in through the MP or up the vents like on Ascent, Solo, Air and so on.

How did you measure the temperature? TIA

There is no confusing the observations, however. You don't think you get complete evaporation at 305F do you, at least in a reasonable time. That was my original point, right? It may say 305 on the app, but it's hotter than that in the ESV bowl, at least in key places.

Perhaps some day I'll try another run at this. Herbal Aire might be a good 'prevape' as it's very accurate and can supply a LOT of uniformly heated air. Volcano (which I don't own) is the same I suspect? BTW, trying to read ESV this way doesn't work, at least I couldn't make it. Way too much variation across the load, which is why, I guess, you need to stir typically to get uniform results and why you can combust on one side and have green herb on the other. I wouldn't really know how to measure the temperature in the bowl accurately, and I tried trying to sort out the coil tilt thing.

OF