E-Nano from Epickai

[EverythingsHazy]

This is what a 7 looks like out of a water pipe for me, 2-3 hits. Also I always feel like i get an uneven burn not sure if one side of my heater is hotter than the other or something or im just paranoid? I typically stir frequently with the e-pick https://imgur.com/a/Lv9Z8es

Edit: sorry can't figure out how to get the IMG button to work

There will always be a circle of darker bud where the air hits the load on the gong. It doesn’t heat the whole thing evenly, which is why stirring between hits helps make sure you vape the whole load evenly and completely.

 

[anda1anda2]

and here I am not able to go above 6 on dry stem and 6.5-6.6 on water pipe. I never start below 5 either, I don't get much vapor if any at all. So my e-nano range is basically just 5-6 for dry stem, really small range I feel.

I’m pretty close to this range. 5.25-6 dry. A tad higher with water.

 

[dutz3013]

I agree that your abv looks pretty dark. If it's getting into the realm of being almost black then I would have a concern. My abv is really not beyond a milk chocolate color. Once you're approaching dark bittersweet chocolate color then you probably getting some charring, which is a step below combustion but you might be developing chemicals that you don't want in your vapor.

My range is from 5.5 to 7 so not too far off in margin, again you want to have a comfortable sweet spot where you can get the level of herb roast that you want below charring. That would also include getting the flavor and effects that your looking for in your vapor. I like to vape a bit higher temp than some because I find a higher vape temp provides for a more sedative body high for my needs.

I also have two cords for my current nano. Same nano, yet one cord needs to be set a half step higher than the other cord to get the same temp.

Would you be concerned if you were in my shoes?
TLDR: lowest temp for dry stem right under 5, water 5.5-6.5 (max) 7 is what i took a pic of, looks like some black or really dark brown in there

 

[dagfp]

thanks for all the replies about your temperature ranges... it sounds like my unit isn't performing properly. the first sign that something was up was when using the aromatherapy feature, even with it set to 6 (i think the recommended level is 3 or 4?) it didn't seem to diffuse any smell.

i suspect the problem is that i am not using a step up converter. the voltage in my country is 100v and i expected there would be some trouble with the unit getting up to proper heat but epicvape (i think it was nadia) told me there shouldn't be a problem with a 100v outlet. at 100v, i figured it wouldn't short out like with a 220v outlet but most appliances that generate heat don't function properly at lower voltages. of course, i was obviously vaporizing non-cannabis herbs... but i would still think that set to 10 that most plant matter would be near combustion, which wasn't the case. i'll pick up a step up converter this weekend and see how it goes...

Would you be concerned if you were in my shoes?
TLDR: lowest temp for dry stem right under 5, water 5.5-6.5 (max) 7 is what i took a pic of, looks like some black or really dark brown in there

the first carcinogen you will get upon increasing temperatures past 392 degrees is benzene though unfortunately, there are also some cannabinoids which can be extracted around 428 degrees. combustion happens around 445 i think. based on your pictures, i would say you are likely getting all the cannabinoids plus some additional toxins that come from combustion, though probably not the full gamut you'd get from fire. i wouldn't be concerned necessarily but it kind of takes away from the supposedly benign nature of vaporization... i suppose you can take some satisfaction that you're getting 100% of the cannabinoids (THCV and CBC) which most people who vape their buds slightly brown are not getting.

https://www.midwestcompassion.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/grind-sequence-4-almost-done-abv.jpg

^seems like a reasonable level to shoot for as it can still be used for butter and such...

I start at 6 with a couple of hits, then eight and then I finish at ten. And while I am at ten,
I have to work really hard to extract everything (long slow draws) and then I get darker brown,
but nowhere near black.

yeah there is certainly no one/two hit extraction with my unit... it takes a good while to get anything going. i'm surprised you're able to enjoy using your e-nano when it seems to be defective. are you using a converter of any sort?

 

[BabyFacedFinster]

Would you be concerned if you were in my shoes?
TLDR: lowest temp for dry stem right under 5, water 5.5-6.5 (max) 7 is what i took a pic of, looks like some black or really dark brown in there

I've never done a detailed study of exactly what happens to my herb at each extreme setting because once I found the setting that works best for me (6.5) I pretty much leave it there. I guess the question is, do I have a setting for dry and water vaping that gives me vapor at a reasonable temp where your getting extraction of medicine without charring. If I did then the other settings wouldn't matter that much to me. However, if I was always battling with the dial trying to find a sweet spot where a touch too low wasn't doing anything but barely raising it caused charring then I would have it checked out.

It is really to each his/her own and I'm certainly not an authority in terms of nano service. Maybe a call to Andy or Nadia explaining your issue would help in your decision?

 

[hujdimislav]

are you using a converter of any sort?

Yes, it is the one someone recommended here 220V to 110V 200W.
I don't think that converter is faulty, it seems to work well for others, but you never know.

I'm gonna try with printer cord to rule out the E-nano cord. That is the only thing I can do.

 

[dagfp]

Yes, it is the one someone recommended here 220V to 110V 200W.
I don't think that converter is faulty, it seems to work well for others, but you never know.

I'm gonna try with printer cord to rule out the E-nano cord. That is the only thing I can do.

i tried out a printer cord and it didn't seem to make any difference, so that rules out a cord problem... whether that's a good or bad thing i'm not yet sure.

you say you're using a 220V to 110V converter? oddly that is what is recommended on the epicvape website but from what i can gather, the united states runs on 120V (+/- 5% = 114V~126V).

if your converter is running at 110V and it potentially swings 5% down, you're going to be in the 105V range

so, i just bought a 120V/60 watt transformer. i'll let you know if that does the trick after it arrives in a couple of days...




...i found some info from a 2014 post in this thread where the voltage was measured

Voltage coming through my dimmer is 118.5v AC on level 1 and 122v AC on level 10.

the question that remains unanswered however is whether an output of 110V would have any effect on the amount of heat capable of being produced by the unit. any electricians round these parts that would know?

 

[blokenoname]

If the resistance of the Nano's heater wasn't chosen to accommodate for the voltage drop between a nominal 120v and a nominal 100v (e.g. by using a slightly overpowered heater with lesser resitance), you'd be running it under voltage and it simply won't give you the needed heat output, even at max setting.

As an analog from the DC world, this is like running a DC heater, that is chosen to put out 220-230°C at 12v a with only 1ov. It'll be working fine with 12,3v or 11,8v applied, but with 10v, don't even bother. Won't get hot enough.

You'll need some kind of buck/boost converter, stepping up the nominal 100v to 120v.

Some of the answers re the electrical details you're seeking, you'll find here:
https://oemheaters.com/topic/dc-powered

 

[hujdimislav]

@dagfp my converter is not strictly 110 V output, it goes from 110V to 120V, so there should be enough output voltage.

Gonna wait for your results with a new converter, and if it's not that and it's not the cord, then we're
gonna have to send our units for repair which is the least satisfying option.

 

[dagfp]

you'd be running it under voltage and it simply won't give you the needed heat output, even at max setting.

thanks for the break down. i already ordered a step up converter so i'm looking forward to seeing if everything will be copacetic when it arrives.

@dagfp
Gonna wait for your results with a new converter, and if it's not that and it's not the cord, then we're
gonna have to send our units for repair which is the least satisfying option.

i'll post here as soon as i have the results. sending it back is definitely the worst option of all but short term pain for long term gain i suppose...

you're lucky you have other vaporizers to use, i will have to buy another one as a stopgap if the wait becomes unbearable... though i'm sure another vaporizer wouldn't be the end of the world.

 

[blokenoname]

@hujdimislav

220v to 110/120v converter is useless, when you've just a 100v input. This is a transformer, like I'd use in Europe here. For that, you'd need a 100v to 110/120v step up/boost converter.

 

[dagfp]

@hujdimislav

220v to 110/120v converter is useless, when you've just a 100v input. This is a transformer, like I'd use in Europe here. For Japan, you'd need a 100v to 110/120v converter like the one, I linked to above.

i dont think hujdimislav is in a country with 100v...

 

[blokenoname]

i dont think hujdimislav is in a country with 100v...

My bad! Sorry.

 

[hujdimislav]

@blokenoname, like @dagfp said, I'm in 220V country, we were just troubleshooting our underperforming
E-nanos. We are unsuccessfully trying to combust in E-nano.

@dagfp in worst case scenario, if you need to send your unit for repair, I will gladly send you
one of my Vapcap Ms and a torch no charge so you have no downtime. Everybody should have one anyway, that thing is indestructible. Just PM me.

 

[SloJimFizz]

Another Nano in the Far East, how awesome is that!?! Hope it's firing on all cylinders for you soon @dagfp Pulled from this: "If the device intend to use is absolutely irreplaceable, like a personalised medical equipment, do consider the use of converters". And it links the same converter @blokenoname listed.
Stuffing some Moby Dick into a stem for an eye opener with the Nano. Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

I posted a link to the one I use in Hong Kong a few months back in this thread.

 

[dagfp]

worst case scenario, if you need to send your unit for repair, I will gladly send you
one of my Vapcap Ms and a torch no charge so you have no downtime. Everybody should have one anyway, that thing is indestructible. Just PM me.

that is mighty kind of you... i will keep your generosity in mind if worse comes to worse but i have faith in epicvape's quality control... it's just the small matter of getting the right voltage dialed in

i hope you can get your nano combusting! have you tried it at a different house?

Another Nano in the Far East, how awesome is that!?! Hope it's firing on all cylinders for you soon

thanks... i hope so too. indeed there are plenty of legal herbs one can vaporize and enjoy in their enano...such as chamomile, anise, nettle, nasturtium, aloe, basil and indian saffron... all a part of nature's great bounty

 

[Driver 8]

Spent another rainy day yesterday enjoying the nano cannabis delivery system and playing in unreality on the computer.



Produced a 3D Nano sorta steampunked.

 

[ataxian]

I posted a link to the one I use in Hong Kong a few months back in this thread.

Do you know of “GARDEN BAKERY “?

NANO session is life!

@dagfp my converter is not strictly 110 V output, it goes from 110V to 120V, so there should be enough output voltage.
gonna have to send our units for repair which is the least satisfying option.

Perfect 4 FRANCE!
All my gear 4 CANNABIS is 120volts?

NANO is telling me something funny?

 

[arb]

Nano cranked up to 6.66666 today.........I need some relief!

 

[Baron23]

If the resistance of the Nano's heater wasn't chosen to accommodate for the voltage drop between a nominal 120v and a nominal 100v (e.g. by using a slightly overpowered heater with lesser resitance), you'd be running it under voltage and it simply won't give you the needed heat output, even at max setting.

As an analog from the DC world, this is like running a DC heater, that is chosen to put out 220-230°C at 12v a with only 1ov. It'll be working fine with 12,3v or 11,8v applied, but with 10v, don't even bother. Won't get hot enough.

You'll need some kind of buck/boost converter, stepping up the nominal 100v to 120v.

Some of the answers re the electrical details you're seeking, you'll find here:
https://oemheaters.com/topic/dc-powered

This ^^

 

[arb]

@nadia_epic I hope you guys can get @PuffItUp restocked sometime soon...........please.

 

[hujdimislav]

have you tried it at a different house?

No, just different outlets, same results. Printer cord, same results. I measured output voltage on a
E-nano cord, it ranges from 118V to 123V depending on the dial setting.

I am very satisfied with E-nano, really enjoying it (haven't touch anything else for three weeks),
so easy to use, the look, the feel, pure taste, and a nice hand warmer as a bonus.

If I could just turn the dial on eleven it would be the perfect temperature.

 

[ataxian]

No, just different outlets, same results. Printer cord, same results. I measured output voltage on a
E-nano cord, it ranges from 118V to 123V depending on the dial setting.

I am very satisfied with E-nano, really enjoying it (haven't touch anything else for three weeks),
so easy to use, the look, the feel, pure taste, and a nice hand warmer as a bonus.

If I could just turn the dial on eleven it would be the perfect temperature.

I like the Quality of da NANO!

 

[arb]

I like the Quality of da NANO!

I do to........1/8" of kief in the gong and shaaaaaaaZaaaaaaaam!