E-Nano from Epickai

[Crohnie]

Now that I've got the Enano, I thought I'd give my first impressions. It came well packaged and the first thing I was struck by is how small it is! Unlike some log vapes, the cord is built in. Looks pretty heavy duty. My nano is in Walnut w/ no logo, etc. Like most logs, it's very discreet. I imagine you could use the aromatherapy cup from the Underdog with the nano...even more discreet and makes your house smell great.
The included glass stem looks to be about 6 inches long and a nice thickness. It fits more loosely over the heating unit than I expected, but still seems to get a good seal.

Plugged it in and set it for 6 on the dial. Tried hitting at the 2 minute mark...got some good flavor, but no visible vapor. Turned it up to 7, waited another minute or so and hit it again. The airflow on the glass stem is nice and open and I was coughing my guts out! Nothing like the taste of glass. Turned it back down to 6 and was getting dense tasty vapor. With more experience, I started on 5 and gradually turned up the heat. The built in dial is obviously what makes this log vape different and it's a great feature. I found that finishing on 8 gave me a nice dark brown abv and all the cannabinoids any medical user could want. All this plus famous log vape efficiency!

Seems to work well with small or large loads and can definitely be a HEAVY hitter with big, thick clouds if you want it to be. Or you can turn the temp down and get lighter tasty hits. As much as I bitched and moaned, the Nano was definitely worth the wait. The taste is excellent and I would highly recommend the Nano.

 

[mnd99]

Now that I've got the Enano, I thought I'd give my first impressions. It came well packaged and the first thing I was struck by is how small it is! Unlike some log vapes, the cord is built in. Looks pretty heavy duty. My nano is in Walnut w/ no logo, etc. Like most logs, it's very discreet. I imagine you could use the aromatherapy cup from the Underdog with the nano...even more discreet and makes your house smell great.
The included glass stem looks to be about 6 inches long and a nice thickness. It fits more loosely over the heating unit than I expected, but still seems to get a good seal.

Plugged it in and set it for 6 on the dial. Tried hitting at the 2 minute mark...got some good flavor, but no visible vapor. Turned it up to 7, waited another minute or so and hit it again. The airflow on the glass stem is nice and open and I was coughing my guts out! Nothing like the taste of all glass. Turned it back down to 6 and was getting dense tasty vapor. With more experience, I started on 5 and gradually turned up the heat. The built in dial is obviously what makes this log vape different and it's a great feature. I found that finishing on 8 gave me a nice dark brown abv and all the cannabinoids any medical user could want. All this plus famous log vape efficiency!

Seems to work well with small or large loads and can definitely be a HEAVY hitter with big, thick clouds if you want it to be. Or you can turn the temp down and get lighter tasty hits. As much as I bitched and moaned, the Nano was definitely worth the wait. The taste is excellent and I would highly recommend the Nano.

Thanks for sharing that with everyone. How long did it take from ordering to receiving your Nano?

 

[Crohnie]

Thanks for sharing that with everyone. How long did it take from ordering to receiving your Nano?

My particular case was a bit unusual and complicated by Memorial Day. I ordered my Nano on May 23rd, it shipped out on 28th, and I got it this afternoon...June 1st. Because the holiday weekend caused a bit of a delay in getting my Nano out to me, Andy upgraded my shipping (at no extra charge) to USPS Priority Shipping. I always think that's the best option: reasonable cost, 1-3 day shipping, and you get tracking. IMO, the shipping options, prices, etc. could be a little clearer on the website. I think USPS Priority Shipping is an extra $6...but well worth it.

 

[stickstones]

im having a brain fart...does this thing have an all glass air path at the heating level too or just a glass stem?

 

[Hoops]

im having a brain fart...does this thing have an all glass air path at the heating level too or just a glass stem?

Just the stem. The heating element is log vape style.

 

[stickstones]

thanks hoops...sorry to be too fucked up to remember!

 

[Enchantre]

I think there is a ceramic heater in there, under/behind the stainless screen. The herb is in the glass stem, so as you pull the hot air through, the herb & vapor is only touching glass.

I love my Dragon.

 

[momofthegoons]

Andy, as a Nano owner, I am concerned. As you recall, back in April, gvapes posted this:

What an amazing way to start my day.... I got to see fireworks, well not real fireworks but my outlet started shooting sparks as soon as I went to plug n my nano. Unplugged it as fast as I could but it didn't mater the unit was fried. No light when you try to turn it on. Pretty annoyed my epic broke and hope Andy will stand behind fixing it. Barely have had it :-(

Last Thursday, this was posted by Frickr in the Epicvape EV-1/EV-2 thread:

have to warn all users of this vape that I find is a major design flaw. My unit had a major short, my guess is the light made contact with the base. This short lead to a very large shock when my finger touched the metal at the base. When the unit came into contact with a grounded appliance a large spark was emitted, the arc was strong enough to melt a spot out of the base. I had asked for a design modification to all existing vapes to include a 3 wire grounded plug to protect the user from any chance of shock. Being an electrician I'm all to familiar with the dangers of electric shocks. This one I'm very lucky that the path was just through my fingers instead of between arms across my heart where a good chance the full 120 volts I measured with my meter on the base surely would have killed me. I had asked for the owner to come on here and provide a solution to this so no other users have to receive the same or a possible worse shock to them that I had received. I sent my unit in a few weeks ago and have followed up with emails and phone calls but have not heard back from the company since I first informed them of the problem and how I felt it could be made safer. So u hope the community can help me see this through and pressure the owner to change all existing ev2's to a grounded 3 prong plug.​

Followed by this post by vtac:

Damn, Frickr. I'm glad you're alright, that is seriously scary. Since you're an electrician, would you be able to disassemble the unit to ascertain whether it was a crazy fluke or dangerous design flaw? I mean that shouldn't be happening ever.

I want to clarify something about how this situation and the forum intersect. This is a potentially life threatening issue that has been raised by a veteran member who also happens to be an electrician. The issue will be discussed in this thread since it is directly pertaining to this model. However, this discussion will remain civil and reasoned. If you don't have something constructive to add to the discussion, or if you can't say it without breaking the forum rules (be nice), don't post here.

Normally we do not allow manufacturers to post in threads about another company's vape unless it's a 100% positive post. We take this rule seriously, however, considering what's at stake here we will make an exception providing that the caveat about civility is met. Posts that do not abide by the criteria outlined above will be deleted or edited and warning points may be given.

There has been no response from you on this matter in that thread and I am concerned as to how this could relate to the Nano. The electronics, from what I understand, are the same.
Andy, I would like to see the internals, if possible, of Frickr's vape and your determination of what the root cause was of the short/shock. And, I would like to know if this could happen with the Nano.

 

[ACE OF VAPE]

I'm out of town right now, but will post a detailed reply with internals when I get back. The short answer is, I have an engineer looking at Frikers EV-2. (his is the only unit that has had an issue). The nano is a completely different circuit with no electronics inside it. The EV-2 has a circuit board inside it.
There is not enough current in either unit to cause any serious injury, other than burning yourself touching the heating element or hot glass.

 

[pakalolo]

Being an electrician I'm all to familiar with the dangers of electric shocks. This one I'm very lucky that the path was just through my fingers instead of between arms across my heart where a good chance the full 120 volts I measured with my meter on the base surely would have killed me.

There is not enough current in either unit to cause any serious injury, other than burning yourself touching the heating element or hot glass.

These statements are inconsistent. I look forward to your explanation, since a qualified electrician thinks there is enough current to kill you.

 

[Dafni]

Hello fellow Nano lovers,

I would like to share my experience with the E-Nano. I’m not a native English speaker, please bear with me, I’ll try the best I can. Mods please don’t hesitate to change my grammar and spelling if it’s too bad.

So I had some time with my E-Nano and love it so far. Excellent little device.

I was playing around with temp settings and came up with a way to accurately measure the temperature of the airflow right where it hits the herbal load.

From my work background I have access to some fancy thermo probes and I always test my new vaporizers. I love to play around with these things.

For the Nano I built a little GonG adapter with the thermo probe dead center right where the herbs would be, and a bit of cotton to simulate the load. Cotton lets me simulate loose or dense loads without getting me too medicated over time.

I put that adapter on a big bubbler and my Nano on top, giving it long exaggerated pulls, trying to max out the temp of each setting.
“Maxing out” the temp on a purely convective vape is not easy, as the longer one pulls the higher the temp gets. So I had to settle for a realistic experimental pull that I could reproduce over and over again without fainting.

That said, I really went to town on it, trying to find the hottest temps that could be achieved for each setting. I am a relatively big guy and can draw longer and harder than most people I know, so I would not be surprised if someone else could not reproduce the temps I was able to hit.
Therefore I repeated the experiment with different people, trying to find an average temp that is easy to achieve for most.

The airflow (a direct consequence of the density of the load) has a huge impact on the final readings, as can be expected.

To represent different airflow rates and different users, I collected my data in a temp range for each setting.
The lower end representing a temp that should be easy to reach by anyone, even with a loose load.
The top end representing my top temps that I achieved. I would take those as max temps for each setting.

So here are the numbers:

Setting: Temp Range

5: 150-160°C (302-320°F)
5.5: 165-175°C (329-347°F)
6: 180-190°C (356-374°F)
6.5: 195-205°C (383-401°F)
7: 210-220°C (410-428°F)
7.5: 225-235°C (437-455°F)
8: 240-250°C (464-482°F)

Please note the nice linear pattern, and keep in mind those are average numbers out of many many test runs, different load densities and users.

So in theory, given a nice dense and dry load, exaggerated long steady pulls, one should be able to reach combustion on the 7.5 setting. (and IIRC someone here posted something like this)
I myself never combusted in my Nano so far, but I got very close. Obviously I roasted some of my cotton loads a light brown (something that would probably combust some herbs)
If you don’t pack your loads hard and draw for very long I think even the 8 setting should work, for those complete extractions or those very big hits.

All in all I am very happy with the numbers the Nano produced, how quick and reliable the temp changes where, how quick the loads cool off when you stop pulling, how warm the device gets on the outside, how free the airflow is and even how sleek that thing looks and feels.

Thank you Andy for such a nice little thing, and thanks to all for reading. Comments and questions welcome!

 

[pakalolo]

Hello fellow Nano lovers,

I would like to share my experience with the E-Nano. I’m not a native English speaker, please bear with me, I’ll try the best I can. Mods please don’t hesitate to change my grammar and spelling if it’s too bad.

Your grammar and spelling are superb. Your choice of font colour—not so much. White is unreadable in some of our themes (such as the one I use) so I changed it to a neutral grey.

Thanks for a highly informative post. I wish we had similar tests for all vapourizers.

 

[Dafni]

Your grammar and spelling are superb. Your choice of font colour—not so much. White is unreadable in some of our themes (such as the one I use) so I changed it to a neutral grey.

Thanks for a highly informative post. I wish we had similar tests for all vapourizers.

Thank you for changing the colour... i typed it in Word and copy'd it in here and it did the colour by itself. It looked okay on my black background so I left it, but I thought it might be a problem for some who use different themes. Cheers.

Yes, I agree, it would be nice to find such numbers for all the vapes. I will post more numbers when I get more units, especiall log vapes. I'm on the list for a HI, can't wait to test that one. Unfortunately Cookie from WW seems MIA, and the UD people told me they only serve the US market these days...

I did the same tests for other vapes I own, but did not feel the need to post them here, either because the known numbers are close enough to reality, or I did not want to point fingers or start arguments, or it was just not possible for me to make accurate reproduceable measurements. Plus, some would argue the actual numbers are overrated, just look at the ABV and stuff, I myself have always been a science nut and like to know what really goes on.

 

[ataxian]

Comments and questions welcome![/quote]
Concerning flavor this not the vaporizer for me according to your evaluation?
If your looking for max temperatures why not just smoke a joint?
I'm a thin fit person and I don't like harsh hits!
FLAVOR, EFFECT, FUNCTION are number one in my case.
Thank you for letting me know!

 

[Dafni]

Concerning flavor this not the vaporizer for me according to your evaluation?
If your looking for max temperatures why not just smoke a joint?
I'm a thin fit person and I don't like harsh hits!
FLAVOR, EFFECT, FUNCTION are number one in my case.
Thank you for letting me know!

Hey there,

ehhh, I think you got me wrong. I am not looking for the max temp as such (if I would have been I would not have stopped at setting 8 ) i was just trying to see the max temp for each setting, to provide you with a number (i.e. the max temp you can expect at the given setting)

I think the ENano could well be exactly what you are looking for. It provides excellent flavor and effects! I would definitely recomment the ENano for you.

Sorry if my post was unclear. The goal was just to provide the numbers. And the temp controller IS there so we can choose what temp we want after all.

If you want smooth hits, just stay under 6 or 6.5. And if you want stronger hits, quicker extraction, go to 7 or 7.5 even.

Concerning flavor as such, the Nano scores big in my book. It won't toast the herbs too quick if you don't want it to.

As for effect, well, this depends on your material, but the Nano gives you all that is in there, no doubt.

And for function, or functionality, man, can't beat an adjustable log in my opinion. So simple and easy to use, and not prone to failure at all, as far as I can tell.

Hope this clarifies it a bit.

 

[lazylathe]

For me the E-Nano does not give me the same flavor i get with my Vapolution 2.0
Effect and function are amazing but i find it lacks a bit in the flavor department.

By no means is this a big negative, i LOVE my E-Nano and it is my daily driver!
I would imagine that the ceramic core and metal surround may have something to do with the flavor but i am no scientist!

It hits like a champ and gives dense clouds with ease!
Very small learning curve and it is plug and vape!

 

[ataxian]

Hey there,

ehhh, I think you got me wrong. I am not looking for the max temp as such (if I would have been I would not have stopped at setting 8 ) i was just trying to see the max temp for each setting, to provide you with a number (i.e. the max temp you can expect at the given setting)

I think the ENano could well be exactly what you are looking for. It provides excellent flavor and effects! I would definitely recomment the ENano for you.

Sorry if my post was unclear. The goal was just to provide the numbers. And the temp controller IS there so we can choose what temp we want after all.

If you want smooth hits, just stay under 6 or 6.5. And if you want stronger hits, quicker extraction, go to 7 or 7.5 even.

Concerning flavor as such, the Nano scores big in my book. It won't toast the herbs too quick if you don't want it to.

As for effect, well, this depends on your material, but the Nano gives you all that is in there, no doubt.

And for function, or functionality, man, can't beat an adjustable log in my opinion. So simple and easy to use, and not prone to failure at all, as far as I can tell.

Hope this clarifies it a bit.

Thanks for the explanation!

 

[Rrose Selavy]

hey everyone i got my e-nano a few days ago and have been running it through the ringer. so far i am very satisfied especially because i have only owned portables up till now. any way this thing is small beautiful and gets me super medicated the only thing now is to save up for this worked mini beaker i have my eye on lol.

the stem is a little lose which i understand is to account for the expansion of the heater, has anyone found a snugger fitting stem or maybe a way to get the nano stems to fit a little tighter? im fine with it the way it is but sometimes i can be a little clumsy haha

 

[lazylathe]

hey everyone i got my e-nano a few days ago and have been running it through the ringer. so far i am very satisfied especially because i have only owned portables up till now. any way this thing is small beautiful and gets me super medicated the only thing now is to save up for this worked mini beaker i have my eye on lol.

the stem is a little lose which i understand is to account for the expansion of the heater, has anyone found a snugger fitting stem or maybe a way to get the nano stems to fit a little tighter? im fine with it the way it is but sometimes i can be a little clumsy haha

When you received your E-Nano you should have got a length of silicone tubing in the box.
What i did was to cut a short piece and slide it over the glass stem and have a bit of excess length.
This length fits over the metal stem and gives a great seal!
When you draw in you can actually hear the air being sucked in from the holes at the bottom of the unit!

 

[ZombiezAteMyD0G]

the only thing now is to save up for this worked mini beaker i have my eye on lol.

what mini beaker are you looking at? I just ordered this, but am still looking at other stuff


http://www.planetvape.ca/black-leaf-smoke-shower-micro-circ.html

When you received your E-Nano you should have got a length of silicone tubing in the box.
What i did was to cut a short piece and slide it over the glass stem and have a bit of excess length.
This length fits over the metal stem and gives a great seal!
When you draw in you can actually hear the air being sucked in from the holes at the bottom of the unit!

hmmm, I did not receive any tubing with my unit.

 

[Vape N Bake]

I haven't posted in a while due to life getting in the way. I just wanted to say that I have had my Nano for about 2 months now and I still haven't used a water tool. Direct draw is simple, smooth and very effective. The Nano is a solid tool and I couldn't be happier.

 

[lazylathe]

hmmm, I did not receive any tubing with my unit.

That's odd...
Maybe Andy just added a short length to my package? Not sure.
If you have any other medical grade tubing that will fit, give it a go!
I only use the tubing when i want to finish off a stem in a large one hit wonder!

 

[Rrose Selavy]

i did not get any tubing with my order but i will go find some. thanks any idea what thickness?

also the mini tube im talking about is at my lhs if it is still there in a few weeks it will be mine!!!!

 

[lazylathe]

The one i have is 10mm ID.
Walls are about 2mm thick

 

[Enchantre]

....

the stem is a little lose which i understand is to account for the expansion of the heater, has anyone found a snugger fitting stem or maybe a way to get the nano stems to fit a little tighter? im fine with it the way it is but sometimes i can be a little clumsy haha

I have two of the glass-screened stems, and they each fit a little bit differently. However, both of them seem a tiny bit snug, but when I do direct hits, I just hold the E-Nano up to the stem (which I have with herb end slightly raised), and inhale. I set the E-Nano down, then either set the stem in something herb up, or slip the plastic cap from the "test tube" over the herb end.