AJS

Calm Consistency
Here's a question that seems more difficult than most, at least about the Nano...

Who has had or heard of a poor or disappointing experience with this vape? What are the drawbacks?

I personally haven't talked to a single person that doesn't get blown away by this vape. After SMOKING weed for about 3 years regularly, this converted me to vaping the moment I hit my friend's. After hitting that I bought my own (despite having a magic flight box). None of us are trying to sell to newcomers, we just want everyone to be as happy with their vape purchases as we are.

1. You WILL get incredibly stoned
2. You CAN milk your glass as if it's smoke.
3. The taste is absolutely phenomenal, beats all conduction vapes that I've tasted.
4. If you are a smoker currently, you will cut down 1/2 of your consumption at least, and be more stoned more often more conveniently.

Negatives:
1. You might not like wood vapes for some reason? :/
2. You may not like the heatup time? 5 minutes
3. BIGGEST NEGATIVE, HERE WE GO: It is basically a personal vape. If you're trying to throw a party of 7 people and get em all stoned, it may take some patience. If you don't mind reloading a bowl 7 times for 7 people, then it's not a problem.
4. Some people like easy to use whip vapes of just load and draw, this isn't one of those vapes. (All glass airpath is better imo)
 

bounce5

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That's why I don't pull my screens out ;)

I'm absolutely LOVING the Nano with a lovely, handmade bamboo stem.. the basket screens work perfectly!, and it's getting more and more beautiful the more I use it. @ChippyMalone

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Wow. I would love to see a picture of the bamboo stem on the e-nano or an in-use video. What an amazing idea. Where did you get the bamboo stem?
 

Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Here's a question that seems more difficult than most, at least about the Nano...

Who has had or heard of a poor or disappointing experience with this vape? What are the drawbacks?

@FUnhouse wasn't happy with the heatup times of this vape I believe. That is a big downside to log vapes in general - takes a while to get fully preheated (And when changing temps)

Also if you load too much herb you can scorch the top (provides a more roasted negative flavor to the vapor). The trick is to load less herbs and the problem goes away.

Still, I love my nano and use it daily even after a year of use. :D
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I think the Nano can adjust to the needs of the owner. There are so many different ways to use it. The basket stem is adjustable to fit a large amount of cannabis as @Enchantre suggested for that 10 min session or for a small amount just covering the screen for that 2 big lung busting hits then you are done.

There's the glass permanent screen stems that I've been using lately for us lazy folks that want easy cleaning and hassle free.

Being able to fit your unit to a water tool is easily done with the GonGs that are available. Still waiting on my D022 bubbler that our man @ataxian suggested. It's been a week and it's still in China. But I figure on 3 weeks anyway. I got my other Dhgate wt and it took between 2 - 3 weeks.

Different temperatures for different folks. Maybe the different electrical sources are the reason as @flotntoke was saying. I know nothing about that. I do know what I like and the nano fits my vaping at home needs to a T.

IMO the custom units are the way to go. It's not that much more cost wise when you think of the lifetime of the vaporizer. The individual beauty of each custom nano is so awesome I love seeing all the pictures that everybody posts.

I think the only downside is waiting for the unit to heat up after it's been turned off. I keep mine on all day. I turn it down to 3 at night.
 
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The Stranger

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Here's a question that seems more difficult than most, at least about the Nano...

Who has had or heard of a poor or disappointing experience with this vape? What are the drawbacks?

Last night and this morning I was getting some bullshit hits from my nano. And I was starting to get worried and disappointed. The screen looked clean, I tried raising the temperature, adjusting the screen depth, changing my draw..:\

Finally, I noticed on the underside of the screen, a bunch of Keif had somehow gotten through or around it but it had gotten clogged up under there.

So I'm actually pretty happy that I got that bad stem in the first place because with the replacement I got 5 extra screens. As soon as I switched them out it was back to hitting just like I remembered. :lol:

I'm so happy having the extra screens so I can just rotate them out and clean them as a batch.

There's the glass permanent screen stems that I've been using lately for us lazy folks that want easy cleaning and hassle free.

This sounds like something I need to invest in seriously!
 
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frostyrod

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If you are taking a 20 to a 25 second draw how can you hold in more than 5 seconds? That's my case anyway. I don't usually count how long it takes me but I was watching the clock just now and i take about a 25 second draw while using my nano. It is a fable the longer you hold in your draw the more medicated you get, you might get light headed from loss of oxygen. This is OFF TOPIC sorry mods.

There has been a lot of discussion on forum regarding that. You can open a thread regarding draw and how long. Do what works well for you but holding in your draw for 5 seconds should do the job.

I academically realize that holding it in longer won't increase your high or whatever. But sometimes for some unknown reason it just feels good to hold in the vapor on a really big draw, and then to just slowly release it and let the vapor slip and play in clouds around your head... I know a little hippy dippy ridiculous. And I've never smoked in my life, not even cannabis no I don't have that reference in my subconscious. So my enjoyment of holding in the vapor came to me strictly after starting to Vape.
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Here's a question that seems more difficult than most, at least about the Nano...

Who has had or heard of a poor or disappointing experience with this vape? What are the drawbacks?

Two or three drawbacks. As others mentioned, time to get up to temp. Can do quick (Dial at 10 then down to 6.5 ish) in 5 or 6 minutes, but takes about 20 - 30 minutes to get to full temp for optimal use. Mine always on unless it is traveling, so seldom an issue. This is also common with many plug in vapes.

Smaller loads - also mentioned above and for a few reasons. Load more often, hard to use with more than 2 or 3 people. This is also a benefit though because tend to use less material in long run, and if you do smaller loads flavor stays until spent and a few other benefits.

It's not portable! Need to be near some type of AC, so if you vape more than indoors (or on the porch) you'll probably want a portable, too. Though a few portable power supplies being posted look to solve this issue for a couple of quick sessions.

Unless you get a custom wood stem, you'll be using glass. An issue for some, but mine has fared vary well. If you're prone to breaking glass - get back ups. Not much you can do without the stem or a GonG.


Couldn't find much info on electrical specs for this one. Could work, but hard to say. Didn't really look at much, but a quick search on Amazon for portable AC power gave many products.

Last night and this morning I was getting some bullshit hits from my nano. And I was starting to get worried and disappointed. The screen looked clean, I tried raising the temperature, adjusting the screen depth, changing my draw..:\

Finally, I noticed on the underside of the screen, a bunch of Keif had somehow gotten through or around it but it had gotten clogged up under there.

So I'm actually pretty happy that I got that bad stem in the first place because with the replacement I got 5 extra screens. As soon as I switched them out it was back to hitting just like I remembered. :lol:

I'm so happy having the extra screens so I can just rotate them out and clean them as a batch.



This sounds like something I need to invest in seriously!

Yep... a clean screen is necessary for best performance! Next time this happens, you may want to try this trick. Turn nano up to 9 or better and dump the load. I go close to 10. Let it heat for 10 - 15 minutes. Put the "empty" stem/GonG back on. Vapor will be pretty hot - but instant reclaim!! Usually very tasty, too. Works well dry or through water. Once it stops giving vapor, turn you nano back down and give it some time to cool. Blow out the stem/GonG to take care of any remnants or hit it with a small brush and tap any crap out. Usually cleans them up pretty good and can do this a few times with light buildup before they need deeper cleaning. I've even tried putting the screens aside, then doing this with a few stacked in there. Lasts longer, but other than that was pretty much the same so hardly worth it IMO.

Always a good idea to do this before setting screens aside for cleaning unless you are planning on making QWISO from them. IMO, this is the better way to go (not a big fan of QWISO myself). Also, cheaper on ISO. I have one of those tiny jelly jars (1 fl oz?) I use for screens. I reuse for quite a while and just keep it capped. When time to clean a few screens, I throw them in, give it a few shakes and let sit for 2 - 10 hours. Give another shake or two and pluck the screens out with tweezers. Hit them on the face with an old toothbrush, rinse and dry. Cap the small ISO jar and put it back under the sink until time to clean again. I guess you could do this a few times and then evaporate the ISO, but not sure how healthy it would be. I usually use the same little batch of ISO for this for 6 - 9 months before dumping, or cleaning dirtier crap up (dab nails or or the rarely used combusting bowls).

I academically realize that holding it in longer won't increase your high or whatever. But sometimes for some unknown reason it just feels good to hold in the vapor on a really big draw, and then to just slowly release it and let the vapor slip and play in clouds around your head... I know a little hippy dippy ridiculous. And I've never smoked in my life, not even cannabis no I don't have that reference in my subconscious. So my enjoyment of holding in the vapor came to me strictly after starting to Vape.

Whatever works for you. As far as the discussion of it, I know I can go OT here as much as anyone, but this one can get pretty long and drawn out. Take a look at the thread I linked above and contribute there as you see fit. But, please keep this one over there. As we just saw in past couple pages, this discussion (and a few like it) can derail a thread right off the tracks. THANKS!
 
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frostyrod

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I'm just wondering how reliable it would be and how much usage you could get out of it before it being completely exhausted. Only saying that because 12,000 mAh isn't that much. I think most of the threads that I've read recommend at the minimum a car adapter that is 50w or above, and that is still a pretty decent draw. It may be useful for a DC centric log like the Underdog. But i'm not so sure how reliable it would be with the E-Nano as it draws a lot of power quickly and efficiently to get it up to temp and ready quickly. Not that I would discourage anyone from trying, just hate to see anyone drop 60 bucks on something that may not work. Though i'm sure there are other more Engineer-centric users that could shoot down my logic lol
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
I'm just wondering how reliable it would be and how much usage you could get out of it before it being completely exhausted. Only saying that because 12,000 mAh isn't that much. I think most of the threads that I've read recommend at the minimum a car adapter that is 50w or above, and that is still a pretty decent draw. It may be useful for a DC centric log like the Underdog. But i'm not so sure how reliable it would be with the E-Nano as it draws a lot of power quickly and efficiently to get it up to temp and ready quickly. Not that I would discourage anyone from trying, just hate to see anyone drop 60 bucks on something that may not work. Though i'm sure there are other more Engineer-centric users that could shoot down my logic lol

I don't know. Anxious to see how one of these may perform in real world use. Don't think the nano is really that much of an energy hog compared to other things. Certainly not as light of a use as charging a phone (something I've seen mentioned on any of these), but how much more?

Search @Ratchett 's posts in this thread. He's given some good solid info about nano energy consumption. I wouldn't be the one to compare it against specs on the portable AC packs, but am guessing with a little math some decent estimates could be made.
 

The Stranger

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Use the bag for ABV? Never even thought of this. You kids are crazy! :myday:

I guess you could. I only use mine for transport. I have found that ABV seems to do better if you keep it relatively airtight and in the dark. Lasts longer, doesn't get all clumpy and would think potency of actives would stay in better shape. Also, if you have pets (especially a dog), you want to keep them out of it. Since vaped material is already decarboxilated it will put quite a hurting on them and could kill them. Much worse than if they got into your fresh stash. I've used a tea tin like below for years. Works great IMO. Can even dump into lid to examine your ABV if you like, put the lid back on can and done! I really like this one because lid fits inside of can instead of going on outside.

I had mine in an airtight wooden thing and the only reason I put it in there (after much deliberation, by the way) was because I think in the directions with the enano it said to use the bag for abv.


Yep... a clean screen is necessary for best performance! Next time this happens, you may want to try this trick. Turn nano up to 9 or better and dump the load. I go close to 10. Let it heat for 10 - 15 minutes. Put the "empty" stem/GonG back on. Vapor will be pretty hot - but instant reclaim!!

This is all REALLY good advice, thanks a lot! I haven't cleaned the screen yet so I will be doing this from now on for sure.
 
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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT

Symmetry

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Thanks for the responses, guys...it seems to me that the main limitations to the Nano are its form factor's - that is, relatively slow warmup time and not being ideal for sharing. To address the last point, though, you can just buy several stems and give one to each person, right?

Log vapes seem to have evolved to the point where the only differentiation between market leaders is minor or cosmetic. That's incredible, considering the relatively neglected status of vaporizing until recently. I wonder if something is going to come out soon that blows the UD/HI/EN out of the water.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Thanks for the responses, guys...it seems to me that the main limitations to the Nano are its form factor's - that is, relatively slow warmup time and not being ideal for sharing. To address the last point, though, you can just buy several stems and give one to each person, right?

Log vapes seem to have evolved to the point where the only differentiation between market leaders is minor or cosmetic. That's incredible, considering the relatively neglected status of vaporizing until recently. I wonder if something is going to come out soon that blows the UD/HI/EN out of the water.

Let me say!

You can spend $750 for a party vaporizer!

For about $200 the NANO gets the job done.

12V for the NANO.
9V for the other logs!

Do the Math?

I leave mine on 24/7
 

Neceros

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the responses, guys...it seems to me that the main limitations to the Nano are its form factor's - that is, relatively slow warmup time and not being ideal for sharing. To address the last point, though, you can just buy several stems and give one to each person, right?

Log vapes seem to have evolved to the point where the only differentiation between market leaders is minor or cosmetic. That's incredible, considering the relatively neglected status of vaporizing until recently. I wonder if something is going to come out soon that blows the UD/HI/EN out of the water.
I think the form factor is what brought me to this piece. I very much disliked the EQ compared to the nano. Not only that, but it has the options for using your own glass, or just straight from the stem like a solo.

It doesn't take very long to heat up at all, either. Plus, you can literally leave it on during the day. It's designed to be used this way. You're right in that it's not ideal for group situations. The only real drawback.
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
Log vapes seem to have evolved to the point where the only differentiation between market leaders is minor or cosmetic. That's incredible, considering the relatively neglected status of vaporizing until recently. I wonder if something is going to come out soon that blows the UD/HI/EN out of the water.
The technology incorporated into future incarnations of log vapes may be advanced - heat up times may be shortened, form factors may miniaturize - but I don't think the the final result (i.e., efficient, tasty, effective vapor) will change all that much. I use the most advanced coffee maker money can buy, but my good ol' fashioned french press still does it better!
 
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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Thanks for the responses, guys...it seems to me that the main limitations to the Nano are its form factor's - that is, relatively slow warmup time and not being ideal for sharing. To address the last point, though, you can just buy several stems and give one to each person, right?

Log vapes seem to have evolved to the point where the only differentiation between market leaders is minor or cosmetic. That's incredible, considering the relatively neglected status of vaporizing until recently. I wonder if something is going to come out soon that blows the UD/HI/EN out of the water.

As mentioned, warm up time isn't really a major issue - not at all if you leave it on as most do. Mine has been on most of the time 24/7 at around 6 on the dial for a couple years+, and nary an issue related to this. I do turn it off if I won't be home for more than 10 - 15 hours. Other than that it is usually only off while in transit. So my heat up time = 0. Load, hit, ahhhhhhh :). You can also throw some aromatherapy oil on there and have your place smelling nice while your aren't hitting on it.

The major difference is how they are powered. HI & UD (the other two main log vapes) run on DC power. nano runs on straight AC. Just posted a bit about this in the last few pages. Always good to read a little - especially last 10 pages or so - before just asking. No worries!! Happens all the time. Just trying to help.

While I'm here with such things, nano usually referred to as "nano", seldom even "e-nano". "EN" even threw me for a loop for a second, and I probably see this thread as much as my TV!

Seriously doubt you'll see many changes in log vapes. Think @Snappo who just posted above while I was typing here, hit it very well! In another way of saying it, I highly doubt you'll buy a nano now, and then in 6 months be hit with "Oh shit! I should have waited because this new log vape is so much different and looks amazing." They actually haven't evolved too much at all. Some, that are now gone, were very similar to those available now. Think the biggest evolution - found only in nano as far as logs go - is native AC. Couple of differences, but biggest to most users is that it comes ready to adjust the heat with a dial built into the cord. DC logs require a variable voltage supply (purchased as an option or separately) to adjust voltage/temp. Think this is a relatively new development over the past several years, too.

Buy several stems for party mode? Would definitely work!! One of the cool things about the nano is that it is virtually impossible to draw the heat down (as is the case with some vapes - especially some portables). The heating element stays at temp no matter how often or how much you hit it. So, could easily give everyone their own loaded stem (or have them load themselves) and pass nano around. Think that would be fun! If with one other person, I usually just pass back and forth, taking turns on who gets the first hit (not always the best hit, but often). For 3 or 4 people, I usually do a small load for each individual and let them hit it for a few minutes until spent, then reload for the next. Once everyone gets going I load a little bigger and pass it around for one hit then pass to next person. Again, always a good idea to switch who hits first, same as if you're packing bowl to combust.
 

Neceros

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Question: Which stop should I use in this image when I'm measuring my cannabis?


Today has been much better as far as use with the nano goes. I'm getting much closer to the 7-8 range I'm craving as I fiddled with the depth and load size and heat. So far I'm sitting on about a 7, with the default depth suggested.

I have been using point B on the pick to load my bowls until this last time. I loaded a bowl up to the A point I mentioned above. The hit was really great! The green faded into a nice brown and I knew it was done. Smooth and better than yesterday for sure, through the gong.

Using a stem is no problem all the way through.
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Use the longer side of the Epic tool and measure to the niche. to match the top of the glass, if that makes sense.

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Weed depth is all up to the individual. You will have to see what works well. We all have our own preferences. What works for me @Neceros could be different than what you would prefer.

I like to be able to get a ten min session. Not sure how many draws that is or how much exactly I pack. maybe a 1/10 to an 1/8 of a gram. I'm just guessing. I stir about once or twice during my session. You may just want to cover the screen and just have enough for a couple draws. That is what is so good about the nano. It's up to you.

Read through about 10 pages of the thread. You will see that we all don't do it the same way. Many of these questions are asked often.
 
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Neceros

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Weed depth is all up to the individual. You will have to see what works well. We all have our own preferences. What works for me @@Neceros could be different than what you would prefer.
I can appreciate that, but I simply heard people say the smaller side was for making sure your heater core doesn't actually touch the weed. What you say makes sense!
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
That's what the adjustable basket is for. To adjust the load size. If you need more make the basket deeper. I try not to get the load to touch the heater core. You have better flavor that way.

I use temp 6 to 6.5 depending on the product. Some cannabis needs a little lower some a bit higher temp wise.

I've had my nano for 3 months. There are others that have had theirs a long time. I'm still a newby. But I know what I like in a vaporizer. I own several portables. I have read through at least half of this thread while I was waiting for my unit to arrive.

Good luck with your new vaporizing tool. May it live a long life.
 
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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
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This is what I mean. :D I don't know if this is true, but this is what I've been lead to believe. It makes some sense that you can just lower the screen to load more, but I figured if you went too far down you simply won't get any heat at all.

OK. Got you now. Hadn't really picked up on that before, but don't doubt it is in here somewhere. Cool graphics, too!

nano has been VERY good to me tonight. :smug: But, I'll give it a quick whirl.

You can lower the screen as much as you want, and cram as much material in there as you can. And, the load doesn't necessarily have to be right at the heater element. But, the further it is away the more you'll have to kick up the heat to get the same vapor (or any vapor depending). Thing is, IME, the material at the bottom of a big load isn't going to be getting enough heat. So, you'll have to stir a good bit - bringing the bottom un-vaped material up closer to the heater - to fully vape it all. It's all pretty much relative... load further away more heat. Same with more compressed, though usually not as much.

This is one of the many reasons I usually prefer smaller load and less heat. LESS IS MORE! You just have to load more often. But, you don't really have to stir too much, and you avoid what I find a pain in the ass trying to get the material on the bottom to the top, and the now ABV on top to the bottom.

I've never really measured to the top of the load. I just make sure the heating element doesn't touch it. And, now kind of just know how deep in the glass it needs to be.

Play with it. Experiment. You may find you like small loads but deeper down in the stem with heat at 8, where I may have the same sized load with a closer screen at 6.5. You may find you like more crammed in there than just a few hits, and stirring a big load isn't an issue - or even really necessary.

If you're getting vapor and not roasting your ABV to black, you're fine. To get more/thicker vapor bump up the heat, or push screen closer. If vapor is too thick for you, turn down the heat or lower the screen. Just do that and make sure the screen in the heating element isn't touching the top of the load itself. When it does, you'll usually see a few small wisps of smoke when you pull the nano off it. And, maybe a few roasting crumbs on there. No big deal. Just blow or knock the smoldering crumbs off, push your load down a bit and try again.

However you do it, when it stops producing vapor it's a good idea to give it one more good stir and hit again. Usually get at least one more decent hit depending on how well you vaped it to begin with.
 

Neceros

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OK. Got you now. Hadn't really picked up on that before, but don't doubt it is in here somewhere. Cool graphics, too!

nano has been VERY good to me tonight. :smug: But, I'll give it a quick whirl.

Great advice. I'm getting consistently an [7] to [8] with considerably less cannabis than I'm used to. I am 100% satisfied, and will urge others to buy, as well.

I agree that some skill is required.
 
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