Delta3DStudios

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my new thicker stems and gong's have taken a shit kicking, falilng on to hardwood floors, on to counter tops, etc. without a scratch! Solo stem would have easily broke, and has before! lol

What size is your GONG? 14 or 19? Both of my 14's are going strong. They seem to heat faster than the thicker 19mm glass
 

Mrmrmrmr

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I noticed all the people I know that use SS mesh with their concentrates reside in Australia. Curious to see if anyone In the US of A does the same thing ?
 
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Chill Dude

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I noticed all the people I know that use SS mesh with their concentrates reside in Australia. Curious to see if anyone In the US of A does the same thing ?

Yeah, I like to use SS mesh, but I think most people use cotton to wrap their dab loads. The problem with cotton is it can definitely scorch a little in high temp Vapes and can affect taste to a certain degree. IMO i think SS mesh is better for concentrates though.
 

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Do singed black edges constitute combustion? I find that I get this frequently at 7.5+ (where I usually like it for quick, efficient hits in a GonG/bubbler setup).
 
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llamaman001

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mush it between your fingers after your done. Is there nasty black ash that remains? IMO only time there is combustion is when there is a cherry, and ash afterward. Youd find the taste of the hit repulsive, even if you had dank bud. I say if your still getting nice flavor, your golden.
 
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mush it between your fingers after your done. Is there nasty black ash that remains? IMO only time there is combustion is when there is a cherry, and ash afterward. Youd find the taste of the hit repulsive, even if you had dank bud. I say if your still getting nice flavor, your golden.

No ash left behind on my fingers. So I guess that's just black AVB?

I'd say the taste isn't smoke-like... it's more towards the burnt popcorn end of things. Right now I feel like I either can do slower sessions with amazing flavor or fast, efficient bowls with some slight burnt popcorn tastes occasionally.
 
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llamaman001

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Im one of the few who dont mind the burnt popcorn taste but there is a certain point....I could hit it on my vapolution 2.0, where I would be vaping and all of the sudden I would just want to throw up the taste was so bad. It was turning my bud BLACK as night and made the fruitiest of buds taste like steaming dog shit had just entered my mouth. I think it was about 1 degree of from combustion but when I ran it through my fingers it left the ash residue. I liked to toast mine on 7.5 to 8 sometimes and it would leave VERY dark marks that were damn near black.
 
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rabblerouser

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No ash left behind on my fingers. So I guess that's just black AVB?

I'd say the taste isn't smoke-like... it's more towards the burnt popcorn end of things. Right now I feel like I either can do slower sessions with amazing flavor or fast, efficient bowls with some slight burnt popcorn tastes occasionally.

As you approach combustion you get pyrolysis, I usually don't go too hot because i don't like the flavor.
 

Delta3DStudios

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No ash left behind on my fingers. So I guess that's just black AVB?

I'd say the taste isn't smoke-like... it's more towards the burnt popcorn end of things. Right now I feel like I either can do slower sessions with amazing flavor or fast, efficient bowls with some slight burnt popcorn tastes occasionally.

When you remove the nano from your GONG or Stem, is there any herb stuck to the heat outlet screen?

Maybe your heat is too close to the herb?
 
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Submisfit

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So question...I'm using organic cotton in my nano stem, and it's getting pretty gooey. I don't think that it's quite ready yet, but it's flavoring fresh bud VERY mildly like burnt popcorn; is there a way around this?
 
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421

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When you remove the nano from your GONG or Stem, is there any herb stuck to the heat outlet screen?

Maybe your heat is too close to the herb?

don't think this is the case but i know for sure that one problem is that i don't break up my bud that much (using the all glass GONG with sizables holes). i did have the too close problem a few times but have been careful to pack only 2-3 small nugs in each bowl, giving enough clearance for the nano on top.
 

Delta3DStudios

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So question...I'm using organic cotton in my nano stem, and it's getting pretty gooey. I don't think that it's quite ready yet, but it's flavoring fresh bud VERY mildly like burnt popcorn; is there a way around this?

Move your cotton further down the stem. I had a problem where my cotton was drying out from vaping with the herb when the temp was turned up.

I moved my cotton down to the middle of my claisen way further away from the heat. It's getting nice and reclaim soaked. I can't wait to try some in a max diffusion rig.

@421 - airflow around the nugs is important - I haven't had any problem with a nug in my nano.
 

Submisfit

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Move your cotton further down the stem. I had a problem where my cotton was drying out from vaping with the herb when the temp was turned up.

I moved my cotton down to the middle of my claisen way further away from the heat. It's getting nice and reclaim soaked. I can't wait to try some in a max diffusion rig.

@421 - airflow around the nugs is important - I haven't had any problem with a nug in my nano.

http://imgur.com/Vpccm0s
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This is what it looks like now. I've been experimenting with it, so I've been using a bit more than normal lol.

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flotntoke

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Yeah.... IMO you're way too close to the heat. It is going to catch about the same amount of goo if you're that close to the other end. Wouldn't necessarily go that far, but looks like you have plenty of room to get it further from the heat. Another word of advice.... don't have shit to do when you pull the cotton and vape it. Mine knocks me on my ass, and goes on forever. Just can't resist taking another hit, and another and so on until it's done.
 

Submisfit

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Yeah.... IMO you're way too close to the heat. It is going to catch about the same amount of goo if you're that close to the other end. Wouldn't necessarily go that far, but looks like you have plenty of room to get it further from the heat. Another word of advice.... don't have shit to do when you pull the cotton and vape it. Mine knocks me on my ass, and goes on forever. Just can't resist taking another hit, and another and so on until it's done.
I had it right at the end before, but i kept getting little wisps of cotton in my mouth. As for trying it, there's a big hippie fest all weekend, and I'll be using it pretty heavily with some friends. Will probably try the cotton after letting it soak that up, but I was gonna use it a few hours before bed when I didn't have anything to do. I was assuming it'd probably hit about as hard as concentrates, which I go pretty light on. That's collection from barely more than an eighth of pineapple x northern lights cross.
 
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btka

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can someone confirm me if this converter would be good... i don t have any clue...
output voltage: 110 - 120 V AC / 45w

http://www.conrad.at/ce/de/product/...120-V-AC-220-V-240-V-AC-45-W?ref=searchDetail

would this be ok... or do i need more watt on the epic page they say
Up to 15 watts of full ac power

a by the way on the product picture there you can read long time usage 30VA short usage 45VA short time working is not longer then 1 hour....
 
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Herbalist23

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can someone confirm me if this converter would be good... i don t have any clue...
output voltage: 110 - 120 V AC / 45w

http://www.conrad.at/ce/de/product/...120-V-AC-220-V-240-V-AC-45-W?ref=searchDetail

would this be ok... or do i need more watt on the epic page they say
Up to 15 watts of full ac power

a by the way on the product picture there you can read long time usage 30VA short usage 45VA short time working is not longer then 1 hour....

You can use this one, wattage is enough, I'm using a similar unit from HQ Power :tup:
 

dos equis

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Ordered 2x stems and a GonG, hope they arrive asap!

I have to say though, using the defected GonG in a bong is pretty much no problem at all. Might be hard with herb where you need some distance, but with hash in cotton it worked amazingly well. I think you could probably compare it to how the LSV might work with water tools, although I haven't gotten to try my LSV like that yet as I am waiting for replacement parts.
 
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