Caligula
Maximus
No my friend. Let it sit at level ten for ten minutes. Two minutes isnt a long enough warm up time.
E-Nano from Epickai
No my friend. Let it sit at level ten for ten minutes. Two minutes isnt a long enough warm up time.
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Sorry man, will give that a shot now, it says to let it warm for 5 minutes on epicvape site, but I'll give it one more go for 10 mins.
I am pretty sure the issue is simply not enough wattage being fed through for that high setting. I wonder if the 15w measurement we were given was the E-Nano at idle left plugged in but at setting 3 or 4 like Andy recommends it is left when not being used. When being used at twice that setting, on what looks like a 150w dimmer (7-8), then it is likely that it will draw considerably more power.
I'm in two minds as to whether I should wait til tomorrow morning when I can get a better, 200w Stepdown Converter. I don't wanna strain my Nano anymore than it has been! It is so pretty!
EDIT: http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=MF1082
What does everyone think of that 250w isolated converter? Since I wanna be able to leave it on 24/7, I figure this one will do the job!
I am pretty sure the issue is simply not enough wattage being fed through for that high setting. I wonder if the 15w measurement we were given was the E-Nano at idle left plugged in but at setting 3 or 4 like Andy recommends it is left when not being used. When being used at twice that setting, on what looks like a 150w dimmer (7-8), then it is likely that it will draw considerably more power.
I'm in two minds as to whether I should wait til tomorrow morning when I can get a better, 200w Stepdown Converter. I don't wanna strain my Nano anymore than it has been! It is so pretty!
EDIT: http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=MF1082
What does everyone think of that 250w isolated converter? Since I wanna be able to leave it on 24/7, I figure this one will do the job!
Caligula
Maximus
I think wait for @ACE OF VAPE to asnwer? In the meantime try the warm up fix.
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Very true, let's hope Andy sees this 
The dimmer switch is this one:
http://www.zingear.com/upfile/2013/05/18/20130518094457_574.pdf
It is rated for a maximum load of 150w
Since there is no other circuitry I can see between the dimmer itself and the wall plug (Unless Andy has modified the internals of the switches), I'm willing to bet that I need to give it more wattage to get the higher temps. I think someone earlier in this thread actually said they used a kill-a-watt to measure the nano and got 15w at setting 3?
@Caligula I'll try the warm up trick now because I can't see how providing less than the rated wattage could hurt the dimmer, nor the heater. Edit: Starting to warm up now!
I would also assume, looking at each item that the dimmer would be damaged by excessive voltage well before the heater itself. The dimmer looks fine and never got excessively hot, so I doubt anything is damaged
The dimmer switch is this one:
http://www.zingear.com/upfile/2013/05/18/20130518094457_574.pdf
It is rated for a maximum load of 150w
Since there is no other circuitry I can see between the dimmer itself and the wall plug (Unless Andy has modified the internals of the switches), I'm willing to bet that I need to give it more wattage to get the higher temps. I think someone earlier in this thread actually said they used a kill-a-watt to measure the nano and got 15w at setting 3?
@Caligula I'll try the warm up trick now because I can't see how providing less than the rated wattage could hurt the dimmer, nor the heater. Edit: Starting to warm up now!
I would also assume, looking at each item that the dimmer would be damaged by excessive voltage well before the heater itself. The dimmer looks fine and never got excessively hot, so I doubt anything is damaged
herbivore21
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1_gr8_underdog
Trapped in the Astral Planes Back from the dead
Hopefully Andy will have a better explination to get you vaping again. 
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herbivore21
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Can I see a link to the kind of inverter you got?
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Hmmm, well, I just tested the E-Nano in my car with my 150w 110VAC converter that I used with my PNP (Also US Cord).
Heated up and got clouds through direct draw stem in a minute and a half on setting 10. It was starting to char the bud.
The issue is the stepdown converter. Thank christ!
I want to put a huge thankyou to Andy @ACE OF VAPE for not only shipping this to me in 3 Australian business days from payment, to Australia, but also giving me a free upgrade to the Maple Burl E-Nano. Further to this I want to thank Andy for designing and building such a robust, simple, elegant unit that is absolutely perfect for the application. I broke off a tiny bud, put it in the all glass direct draw stem, and had dizzying clouds within a minute and a half using my 150w car AC converter. This absolutely obliterates my PNP in every way, with a fraction of the amount of bud, in a fraction of the amount of time.
It is a very, very simple device! As far as I can tell, the electronics save for the heater part are completely outside the unit, it was sturdy enough to withstand being run on 240v for a moment (those ZE-04's apparently can cope with 240v, the heater got a run for it's money, but the wood, the stainless steel and the heater all look and function as they ought to. The PNP was melting plastic within days, being operated completely according to the manual.
Stoked to have made this purchase, despite my usual aversion to buying things from overseas due to impatience with shipping.
EDIT: AUSSIES!!! DO NOT USE THE FOLLOWING STEPDOWN:
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=MF1091
It doesn't deliver enough juice.
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Nothing left to do but smoke a J of that AVB from the crappy stepdown. Can't wait to start enjoying this beauty tomorrow!
This is ready for tomorrow:
Heated up and got clouds through direct draw stem in a minute and a half on setting 10. It was starting to char the bud.
The issue is the stepdown converter. Thank christ!
I want to put a huge thankyou to Andy @ACE OF VAPE for not only shipping this to me in 3 Australian business days from payment, to Australia, but also giving me a free upgrade to the Maple Burl E-Nano. Further to this I want to thank Andy for designing and building such a robust, simple, elegant unit that is absolutely perfect for the application. I broke off a tiny bud, put it in the all glass direct draw stem, and had dizzying clouds within a minute and a half using my 150w car AC converter. This absolutely obliterates my PNP in every way, with a fraction of the amount of bud, in a fraction of the amount of time.
It is a very, very simple device! As far as I can tell, the electronics save for the heater part are completely outside the unit, it was sturdy enough to withstand being run on 240v for a moment (those ZE-04's apparently can cope with 240v, the heater got a run for it's money, but the wood, the stainless steel and the heater all look and function as they ought to. The PNP was melting plastic within days, being operated completely according to the manual.
Stoked to have made this purchase, despite my usual aversion to buying things from overseas due to impatience with shipping.
EDIT: AUSSIES!!! DO NOT USE THE FOLLOWING STEPDOWN:
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=MF1091
It doesn't deliver enough juice.
SECOND EDIT:
Nothing left to do but smoke a J of that AVB from the crappy stepdown. Can't wait to start enjoying this beauty tomorrow!
This is ready for tomorrow:
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PPN
Volute of Vapor
The herbivore21 issue makes me afraid cause I got a 100W converter , I used it with my Ev-2 but I thought it was not enough cloudy (before that I used a 45W converter without big differences).
That's why I sent back my ev-2 to Andy to upgrade to nano, I'll hope the nano is a bigger hitter and perhaps I'll need to buy another converter....idk...
That's why I sent back my ev-2 to Andy to upgrade to nano, I'll hope the nano is a bigger hitter and perhaps I'll need to buy another converter....idk...
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Don't worry @PPN, once I used the 150w car adapter, the E-Nano is hitting far bigger without proper warm-up time than my PNP ever could with custom gong and jacked up to 470 farenheit. I am a seasoned toker, coming from 25-30 joints a day of combustion for a background, with major bong hits occasionally. This thing generates more clouds than I can get into my lungs in one hit from a tiny .1g bit of bud.
You will get big hits. You may need a bigger converter. Just wait and see my friend!
You will get big hits. You may need a bigger converter. Just wait and see my friend!
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Now that you mention it, mine didn't come with silicone.
Edit: Does anyone with a Nano care to chime in and let me know if the element should be getting red hot if left on setting 10 for 3 minutes from being off?
Edit: Does anyone with a Nano care to chime in and let me know if the element should be getting red hot if left on setting 10 for 3 minutes from being off?
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herbivore21
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i do have a multi meter, how would i go about checking the input voltage?
Start by pushing the probes of your multimeter into the socket of your stepdown. Use some care and common sense though (don't touch the exposed metal tips of your multimeter)
Should read around 110V for the Nano.
BTW: in my experience a 45W converter is more than enough for one Nano. Just make sure the output voltage is 110V. I don't see a performance difference between the cheap 45W unit and an industry grade 500W unit I have.
Should read around 110V for the Nano.
BTW: in my experience a 45W converter is more than enough for one Nano. Just make sure the output voltage is 110V. I don't see a performance difference between the cheap 45W unit and an industry grade 500W unit I have.
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
The 50w stepdown doesn't work properly, the unit does not get hot enough even when left for 20+ minutes. The stepdown I used does say that it is not for continuous use, I am wondering if it simply can't deliver the power required constantly enough.
The super hot red heat was from my 120V/220V AC adapter in my car. I am wondering if it is running at 220v...
The super hot red heat was from my 120V/220V AC adapter in my car. I am wondering if it is running at 220v...
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
My standard home outlets are 243.5v, my stepdown that doesn't provide enough heat is 123.5v, car adapter is doing 240v too. That there's the problem. I am guessing this stepdown is not much good, given that it has a label on the box saying 'not for continuous use'. I think this is just a particularly crappy converter!
Given the max rating of the dimmer in the E-Nano is 150w (verified that this is the input wattage listed on the dimmer, according to this guide https://www.tortech.com.au/choosingrightstepdown ), this is all I can think of now. The unit does not seem at all damaged. The LED light seems to not get any brighter when I turn up the unit past about 7 using the 50w stepdown converter. It also seems to not get any hotter than about 395 farenheit (judging from clouds the nano gave me with the 50w stepdown being the same as what my PNP gives me with same sized gong, same bud and similar sized bowl at 395).
Given the max rating of the dimmer in the E-Nano is 150w (verified that this is the input wattage listed on the dimmer, according to this guide https://www.tortech.com.au/choosingrightstepdown ), this is all I can think of now. The unit does not seem at all damaged. The LED light seems to not get any brighter when I turn up the unit past about 7 using the 50w stepdown converter. It also seems to not get any hotter than about 395 farenheit (judging from clouds the nano gave me with the 50w stepdown being the same as what my PNP gives me with same sized gong, same bud and similar sized bowl at 395).
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2 Paces
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I know that high temp silicone can be used as a stem on a Nano, but I don't know what Andy sent you exactly. If it is high temp you should be fine.
When I had no glass, I used some high temp silicone that I got from a brewing store (rated to 500 degrees I think). I wedged a screen in it and used it as a stem. It worked great until my replacement glass showed up.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
The NANO is not your issue!
It's your converter.
I have a few outlets in my MEDICATION area were some of the outlets I don't use for vaporizers.
The NANO will not work if there is not enough power.
I have dedicated outs for my vaporizers.
When I lived in FRANCE I bought a High Quality step down converter for my 110 - 120 appliances. I never have succeed cutting corners when it comes to power.
I typically run 6.5 on my dimmer switch and dry flowers I've ran 4 with even browning. 7 seems to work well with my water set ups.
10?
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Just returning home with my 250w isolated stepdown transformer. Looking forward to getting back to sleep this morning courtesy of my nano!
Ataxian, as usual, cheers, I am about to hopefully find out you are right
Ataxian, as usual, cheers, I am about to hopefully find out you are right
Osn Dosn
Well-Known Member
Not sure if just going higher and higher in terms of the max output of a transformer will fix your issues.. I thought this fat kid here with its 100W max. might be already od'd (still just 20€ lolo)
and many others here seem to be fine with even cheaper ~50W transformers, as they're used to be according to the specifications.. so.. hate to say, but running it on 240V at first might have confused your machine?!
Or is there something strange with the Aussie grid?
and many others here seem to be fine with even cheaper ~50W transformers, as they're used to be according to the specifications.. so.. hate to say, but running it on 240V at first might have confused your machine?!
Or is there something strange with the Aussie grid?