Dynavap VapCap

[CloudyDayz]

I just ordered the M - can't wait to get it. I have the glass one and love it but I can tell its days are numbered.

I was on the fence about a woody even though I really just want something metal . .but I couldn't get my mind around the omnivap price.

Now I'm even more confused. Don't get me wrong ..I'm stoked to get the M for $40 bucks . .but what makes the omnivap worth so much more? I think Dynavap doesn't do a good enough job of explaining why it costs what it does. .or else I'm just dense, lol.

The best I can figure is Titanium costs more (but not THAT much more) and is probably harder to work with so that part probably costs more...and it has the adjustable airflow which probably adds to the cost of construction . .but again . .I can't make it add up.

I know the titanium tip is supposed to heat faster . .but if I'm happy with the heating time of the OG ...why would I want the Omnivap instead of the M?

I'm not bashing . .just trying to understand . .there must be a reason . . .

 

[cybrguy]

Most of the additional cost in the omni is in it's special condenser that lets you adjust the airflow. That sells for $65 just for the condenser, compared to $10 for a standard one.

https://www.dynavap.com/dynashop/parts/omni-condenser-assembly-with-mouthpiece

 

[ClearBlueLou]

Yes I also would buy a white labcoat. with' George' embroidered on it....

duster-style - w/ "DYNAVAP Racing Team" on the back..

 

[CloudyDayz]

Most of the additional cost in the omni is in it's special condenser that lets you adjust the airflow. That sells for $65 just for the condenser, compared to $10 for a standard one.

https://www.dynavap.com/dynashop/parts/omni-condenser-assembly-with-mouthpiece

That's interesting . . I'm glad they came out with the M, then . .for my own vaping style, adjustable airflow wouldn't matter that much. Thanks!

 

[DirtyD]

I was thinking team jerseys too.

 

[SloJimFizz]

Heh. The Nonavong was one of those, tho I have been curious since they first came out. It was added after I thought I was done. Now that the sale has been extended, who knows if I'm done yet?

I can't get mad at George for being nice to us, but George...

Yup, gonna be a long weekend, must resist going there. But.... I'm pretty sure I can use part of next years 4/20 Knut cause this 4/20 has passed and the year to the next has begun....
You have time now to add an XL condenser and mouthpiece to put your Nonavong on as well. I've got that set up coming in. I dont forsee the mouthpiece going to far into the bubbler.

duster-style - w/ "DYNAVAP Racing Team" on the back..

I'm telling you... put an "Add to Cart" button next to one and I'd get one.

 

[Vapor_Eyes]

That's interesting . . I'm glad they came out with the M, then . .for my own vaping style, adjustable airflow wouldn't matter that much. Thanks!

That's the beauty of the Omni, it adapts to your vaping style. It allows you to have your ideal vapor density without using the carb. There are mods where you can control airflow with the regular condenser but it's not as precise. The Omni is also amazing with water, the hands free precision really helps there.

The beauty of the VapCap itself is that all of the models perform admirably. You will get tasty vapor and huge clouds with any of them. There are subtle differences of course, but they all perform very similarly.

The M is probably the best starting point for someone to dip their toe in the water. You will probably end up craving an Omni sooner or later...

I jumped right in with an Omni but then I worked "backwards", buying a Burly VonG next and then an OG. You gotta try them all!

Then there's also the option of custom bodies and stems from great members like @phattpiggie and @Winegums!

 

[CloudyDayz]

That's the beauty of the Omni, it adapts to your vaping style. It allows you to have your ideal vapor density without using the carb. There are mods where you can control airflow with the regular condenser but it's not as precise. The Omni is also amazing with water, the hands free precision really helps there.

The beauty of the VapCap itself is that all of the models perform admirably. You will get tasty vapor and huge clouds with any of them. There are subtle differences of course, but they all perform very similarly.

The M is probably the best starting point for someone to dip their toe in the water. You will probably end up craving an Omni sooner or later...

I jumped right in with an Omni but then I worked "backwards", buying a Burly VonG next and then an OG. You gotta try them all!

Then there's also the option of custom bodies and stems from great members like @phattpiggie and @Winegums!

OH yeah - I like the custom stems a lot. In particular, I like the long slender one that phatpiggie makes.

I can see the hands-free aspect working well in a bong . .I had to cycle through a couple before I found one that fit the OG and gave me good access to the carb.

As an aside - the bong I use with it, when I use a bong, is such a great piece. It's a Bob Snodgrass style from early 1990's . .maybe even late 80's . .not sure. I don't know who made it but it's nice. It was my wife's from when she lived in the woods of Southern Humboldt county. It has old style fittings and rubber grommets, etc. Kind of like new tech meets old tech.

 

[smokeydabear]

I just ordered the M - can't wait to get it. I have the glass one and love it but I can tell its days are numbered.

I was on the fence about a woody even though I really just want something metal . .but I couldn't get my mind around the omnivap price.

Now I'm even more confused. Don't get me wrong ..I'm stoked to get the M for $40 bucks . .but what makes the omnivap worth so much more? I think Dynavap doesn't do a good enough job of explaining why it costs what it does. .or else I'm just dense, lol.

The best I can figure is Titanium costs more (but not THAT much more) and is probably harder to work with so that part probably costs more...and it has the adjustable airflow which probably adds to the cost of construction . .but again . .I can't make it add up.

I know the titanium tip is supposed to heat faster . .but if I'm happy with the heating time of the OG ...why would I want the Omnivap instead of the M?

I'm not bashing . .just trying to understand . .there must be a reason . . .

You dont need an omni. We probably dont need half the vapes we own. The M is a real steal, its awesome and will get you to the same place as the omni. The omni is just luxury it goes from 0 to 60 faster than the M can. Imo omni also gives you more control of your experience. Ride Chevy or Mercedes on the road to bliss, getting there is all that matters..right?

 

[Vapor_Eyes]

OH yeah - I like the custom stems a lot. In particular, I like the long slender one that phatpiggie makes.

I can see the hands-free aspect working well in a bong . .I had to cycle through a couple before I found one that fit the OG and gave me good access to the carb.

As an aside - the bong I use with it, when I use a bong, is such a great piece. It's a Bob Snodgrass style from early 1990's . .maybe even late 80's . .not sure. I don't know who made it but it's nice. It was my wife's from when she lived in the woods of Southern Humboldt county. It has old style fittings and rubber grommets, etc. Kind of like new tech meets old tech.

I forgot you had on OG, blame it on 4/20!

I am preaching to the choir then I guess.

That bong sounds really cool! I'm sure the M you ordered will look amazing in it when it arrives... hint hint

 

[Squiby]

what makes the omnivap worth so much more?
The best I can figure is Titanium costs more (but not THAT much more) and is probably harder to work with so that part probably costs more...and it has the adjustable airflow which probably adds to the cost of construction . .but again . .I can't make it add up.

I know the titanium tip is supposed to heat faster . .but if I'm happy with the heating time of the OG ...why would I want the Omnivap instead of the M?

I'm not bashing . .just trying to understand . .there must be a reason . . .

You said it. The Omnivap is largely titanium and titanium costs more. Maybe it's harder to work with. Then there's the adjustable airflow and the ti tip.....

But, what you didn't say is that the Omnivap is a very finely crafted, precision milled, engineering beauty that has to be experienced to be fully appreciated. In comparison, the M is much more rudimentary in design.

The SS Tip of the M has a more simple design with its thicker and fewer fins. The neck of the tip uses one less oring than the Ti tip. The convection ratio is higher with the Ti tip vesus the M tip.

The integrated SS stem/mp while attractive and durable cannot compete with the titanium body and the sexy titanium mouthpiece. And then that mp threads onto the condenser like butter and because the condenser/mp are precision fit to fill and sit tight within the body, the Omni has a strength and integrity to it that tells you it will last a lifetime. Maybe two.

The Omnivap should passed down to the next generation when the time comes. It's a piece of functional art. A device meant to be used and admired for what it is.

The M is wonderful vaporizer as is every Vapcap in the line up. The Omni is just the top of the line.

 

[FreddieFresh]

duster-style - w/ "DYNAVAP Racing Team" on the back..

Since were throwing out ideas, I kinda want a Vape Cape

 

[stardustsailor]

Since were throwing out ideas, I kinda want a Vape Cape

Personally,I wouldn't say no to a cap that clicks at a lower temperature than the standard one.
I think the standard one clicks at ~400°F ( 204,4°C ) -although I 've to test it further -.
A cap that clicks around 374°F (190°C) sounds very... tasty !

Just saying ...

 

[PeteSeattle]

Hi friends, I hope you all had a great 420. I certainly did ... working with glass.

As well as enjoying a Ti Omni break (chocolope)

I'm still practicing a gong (not wasting color until mastered). I've got a gong former/mold but it is takes a lot of practice vs the preformed ones by machine). Plus I tried a church warden-esque stem.

Shorter gong with mouth piece

The church warden (flat mouth piece)

Thanks for looking.
And I hope everyone receives their green/purple packages soon!

 

[voodoo_vape]

Site is back up here.

I have ordered a Nonavong stem to play with along with a condenser to go along with it. I struggled for a bit trying to decide if I wanted to do a body with a mouthpiece instead. I thought the latter was kinda cool looking, but I wondered if a Nonavong body with an MP might go too deep into glass so that it might not pair well with some glass pieces. Has anyone experienced this?

Yup, gonna be a long weekend, must resist going there. But.... I'm pretty sure I can use part of next years 4/20 Knut cause this 4/20 has passed and the year to the next has begun....
You have time now to add an XL condenser and mouthpiece to put your Nonavong on as well. I've got that set up coming in. I dont forsee the mouthpiece going to far into the bubbler.


I'm telling you... put an "Add to Cart" button next to one and I'd get one.

The NonaVong is absolutely madness with any glass tool... Amazing clouds, amazing flavour!!
I've been having the same dilemma with the Nona stem. Should I leave it just like that or should I make an XLS NonaVong with an exotic MP? After asking around and seeing some dimensions and so, it seems that it's good to go with any glass fitting. The MP itself is 10mm one and it doesn't go more that a could cm longer than the stem itself. All bongs, bubblers etc have some significant space in their holes so everything should just be fine.
The reason that I wanted the xls made was mainly due to the fact that I think I'm missing on some flavour after a while with just the NonaVong through mouth directly. Plus the MP feels better.

I forgot to mention my experience with the Nonavong-M I had with some fine charas and oil that we had with my friend. I placed some hemp on the bottom and booooom...... flavour, taste, buzz.... unbelievably nice and well toasted and I don't what else to say... the M-Tip itself stayed clean and then I continued vaping the hemp itself and kept on giving me tasty clouds for some time after everything seemed evaporated in there... Finally, a vape that you can easily and carelessly vape your chocolate stuff...

 

[Carlos8400]

I have been using my M for a couple days and i like it.
My only negative comment is the airflow is ridiculous, there is none, it feels like trying to suck a golf ball through a garden hose. I actually prefer the airflow from my Vapman.
Everyting else is great, loading, handling, clicking cap, but damn that airflow!

 

[BaroneBarra]

I have been using my M for a couple days and i like it.
My only negative comment is the airflow is ridiculous, there is none, it feels like trying to suck a golf ball through a garden hose. I actually prefer the airflow from my Vapman.
Everyting else is great, loading, handling, clicking cap, but damn that airflow!

I had the same experience (used it for the first time last night for 6 or 7 sessions) but since this is only my second vape, I blamed my incompetence.

Basically what I found is that if I leave the carb completely open, the hit is smooth and I have no problem inhaling...which sounds logical. But doing this, I don't really get a lot of vapour production and as such I feel like I'm not "doing it right".
On the contrary, if I put my finger on the carb completely blocking it, the hit is so much satisfying, hotter, cough-inducing, with definitely more vapour...but it's super hard to do it, I really need to put some lung power in it. The golf ball and hose metaphor definitely fits.

Also, another thing I found is that my sessions only last for a single draw, and I use a single torch lighter that - if I understand correctly - should make the cap retain heat better. Like I heat it, in about 15/20 seconds the cap clicks, I take a slow draw and when I'm exhaling usually it's already clicking another time, meaning it's cooled down.

I put only a couple little nugs in there, so maybe I need to pack it more? Also, my weed is pretty old and dry, hopefully I'll have some better quality one to try my M with.

I will of course keep trying to improve my technique, but if you have any advice please do share!

Thanks

 

[Carlos8400]

I had the same experience (used it for the first time last night for 3 or 4 sessions) but since this is only my second vape, I blamed my incompetence.

Basically what I found is that if I leave the carb completely open, the hit is smooth and I have no problem inhaling...which sounds logical. But doing this, I don't really get a lot of vapour production and as such I feel like I'm not "doing it right".
On the contrary, if I put my finger on the carb completely blocking it, the hit is so much satisfying, hotter, cough-inducing, with definitely more vapour...but it's super hard to do it, I really need to put some lung power in it.

I will of course keep trying to improve my technique, but if you have any advice please do share!

Thanks

Same here, it's super open when uncarbed, or completely blocked when carbed.
I have found that by roling the vape side to side in between my fingers ever so slightly i can open the carb very little and control fresh air intake, but i wish it had more flow with the carb plugged.
It definitely works, but it's not super enjoyable.

 

[DirtyD]

Any M owners try to file down grooves in the SS tip? To possibly make it look more like the ti tip and thus improve air flow???? Thinking about it.....

 

[stardustsailor]

I had the same experience (used it for the first time last night for 6 or 7 sessions) but since this is only my second vape, I blamed my incompetence.

Basically what I found is that if I leave the carb completely open, the hit is smooth and I have no problem inhaling...which sounds logical. But doing this, I don't really get a lot of vapour production and as such I feel like I'm not "doing it right".
On the contrary, if I put my finger on the carb completely blocking it, the hit is so much satisfying, hotter, cough-inducing, with definitely more vapour...but it's super hard to do it, I really need to put some lung power in it.

Also, another thing I found is that my sessions only last for a single draw, and I use a single torch lighter that - if I understand correctly - should make the cap retain heat better. Like I heat it, in about 15/20 seconds the cap clicks, I take a slow draw and when I'm exhaling usually it's already clicking another time, meaning it's cooled down.

I put only a couple little nugs in there, so maybe I need to pack it more? Also, my weed is pretty old and dry, hopefully I'll have some better quality one to try my M with.

I will of course keep trying to improve my technique, but if you have any advice please do share!

Thanks

Same here, it's ever super open when uncarbed, or completely blocked when carbed.
I have found that by roling the vape in between my fingers ever so slightly i can open the carb very little and control fresh air intake, but i wish it had more flow with the carb plugged.
It definitely works, but it's not enjoyable.

The Vap Caps produce lots of vapour with the carb fully closed.
But you have to adapt your inhaling technique to that.
If you try to inhale directly to lungs with the carb hole fully closed ,
probably you're going to be disappointed .

With the carb hole fully closed ,you should exercise "mouth to lung" draws /hits.
Try to suck hard using your mouth & cheeks to create a strong vacuum .
Do that for two-three hits.
Towards the end of each draw/hit release your finger from the carb hole and
send the vapours down in your lungs.

Each "click to click " mini-session should allow for 5 -6 such draws /hits.

Cheers.

Any M owners try to file down grooves in the SS tip? To possibly make it look more like the ti tip and thus improve air flow???? Thinking about it.....

Already done it .
It improves air flow ,but only just a bit.
Not much of a difference.

Edit:Made consecutive posts.
Maybe a mod can merge them into a single one.

Sorry and thanx.

 

[DirtyD]

Thanks. Maybe I'll just let it be. Maybe.....!

 

[DrHermman]

Hello everyone!!

Been out of FC for a while, and came back just on time to find the new M release and the 420 sale...
So just couldn't resist and picked a new cap, ti-tip (mine is 2nd generation and really want to try the new one!!), an XL Bocote Dynastash... and 3 M's for friends
Yesterday I received the shipping e-mail! So hopefully in a couple of weeks I'll have the sweet green package in Spain

Same here, it's super open when uncarbed, or completely blocked when carbed

About the airflow... This has already been addressed along the thread, but I find this pic helpful to explain what I do...

As you can see, I put the x-ring just closing a bit the carb hole, and this way I get satisfying clouds with an OK air-flow and zero technique (which is good when handing it to non experienced users...)
Hope it works for you new guys with your M's

Once I get my goodies I'll be posting again with my friends experiences, hope to convert'em all!!

Peace!

 

[CuckFumbustion]

The M is wonderful vaporizer as is every Vapcap in the line up. The Omni is just the top of the line.

Still a vapcap newb. But I can see the engineering design behind both and there is enough of a dif that there is one distinctive pro/con. The 'M' has no moving parts. Omni you can adjust. to oversimplify.

My only negative comment is the airflow is ridiculous, there is none, it feels like trying to suck a golf ball through a garden hose. I actually prefer the airflow from my Vapman.

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to be using the carb. Do I keep it covered when I heat my cap? Do I keep it covered at the beginning then allow for the click then release the carb. I don't feel like I'm getting the knack.

I know that if I allow any flame to slip between the cap and the materials means combustion. Pass it on.

My 3 flame torch is empty already from all the testing. I also want to get skilled with an ordinary lighter in a pinch. Starting to see why some might prefer a slower lighter perhaps. Any insight and advanced method or understanding would be helpful and would speed up my learning curve and I can pass that on to save on butane for all Vap newbs like me. I don't feel like I'm getting the best results with what I'm working with. So anyone want to walk us through their technique? I need to get to the intermediate level if I can be of help.

Any geeks want to geekspeak about the engineering and how it is meant to work on the science level of things? Am I supposed to try to get the tip to absorb some heat or should the cap get nearly all the heat? Or some other ideal ratio?
Am I purposely trying to heat the airspace between the condenser and the outer wall. And how should I effectively use the carb. Feel clueless as to best method and I don't feel like wasting the fuel from another lighter right away. Oh I did lower the fuel intake, etc. TX.

Edit - just caught @stardustsailor 's post a sec ago.

 

[SloJimFizz]

Still a vapcap newb. But I can see the engineering design behind both and there is enough of a dif that there is one distinctive pro/con. The 'M' has no moving parts. Omni you can adjust. to oversimplify.


I'm not sure how I'm supposed to be using the carb. Do I keep it covered when I heat my cap? Do I keep it covered at the beginning then allow for the click then release the carb. I don't feel like I'm getting the knack.

I know that if I allow any flame to slip between the cap and the materials means combustion. Pass it on.

My 3 flame torch is empty already from all the testing. I also want to get skilled with an ordinary lighter in a pinch. Starting to see why some might prefer a slower lighter perhaps. Any insight and advanced method or understanding would be helpful and would speed up my learning curve and I can pass that on.

We are all our own detectives.
I scorched the shit out of my first couple loads, Heating it too deep in the blue. Find your happy medium between too close and man this it taking too long.
I have the three flame torch as well,but I dont hold it where all three flames are heating the cap at once.
More like Little Nicky going through the gates of hell with the center doing the bulk and the two others just hitting the sides.
Holding it closer to the base takes longer to heat to click for denser cloud action,closer to the tip brings the click sooner with less density.
Carb and release as you toke, feels like sucking a Wendys Frosty through a Straw, but shits happening as you do it.
As far as geekspeak, theres videos of the head honcho doing that.

 

[BaroneBarra]

The Vap Caps produce lots of vapour with the carb fully closed.
But you have to adapt your inhaling technique to that.
If you try to inhale directly to lungs with the carb hole fully closed ,
probably you're going to be disappointed .

With the carb hole fully closed ,you should exercise "mouth to lung" draws /hits.
Try to suck hard using your mouth & cheeks to create a strong vacuum .
Do that for two-three hits.
Towards the end of each draw/hit release your finger from the carb hole and
send the vapours down in your lungs.

Each "click to click " mini-session should allow for 5 -6 such draws /hits.

Cheers.

Cheers man, I will try that tonight. It's confusing because, coming from smoking (both blunts and cigarettes) I had to learn how to inhale directly into lungs when I got my Alternate, because at the beginning I was doing "mouth to lung" without results. With the M it's the other way around!
Excited to put my new knowledge at test

About the airflow... This has already been addressed along the thread, but I find this pic helpful to explain what I do...

As you can see, I put the x-ring just closing a bit the carb hole, and this way I get satisfying clouds with an OK air-flow and zero technique (which is good when handing it to non experienced users...)
Hope it works for you new guys with your M's

Once I get my goodies I'll be posting again with my friends experiences, hope to convert'em all!!

Peace!

Cool, I will try that as well. I haven't disassembled the M yet, since I was a bit afraid of fucking things up. But this looks like a good way to automatically restrict the airflow a bit; and since I want to use it with my smokers friends to try and convert them it definitely seems like a good idea.
Thanks!