Dynavap VapCap

[Carlos8400]

Uhm, no. Never once have I combusted in the year Ive owned mine and I even heat 2 seconds past the click on occasion. It blows my mind how many VC users have combusted in theirs, I would have to either be deaf or trying REALLY hard to combust w/ this thing. Usually my problem is the opposite, I cant get the thing to a high enough temp so I have to heat a bit past the click. Are there any VC owners other than me who have never combusted?

I have only combusted a few times, and that was because i thought i had heard a click and it actually hadn't.
If you pay attention and respect the click it is pretty much impossible to combust.

 

[cybrguy]

When I used to snow ski I was of the belief if you never fell you weren't learning. I have combusted in (almost) all of my vapes (I'm not sure the FM is capable of combusting). I find that I want to know what they are capable of and what their limits are, and if you never go over the line you never fully know.
That may not be important to everyone, but it is to me.

BTW, I wanted to add that another reason I occasionally combust is I like to get as much value out of my goods as I can, AND, especially at night, I enjoy the sedative effects of the highest temp vapor, so that line can be close.

 

[WakeAndVape]

I dont understand how anyone who reads the instructions could ever char their load.

reading has nothing to do with it.
...it's being inattentive

pull up a chair youngin' i'll tell ya how its done...

...sometimes during the excitement of an out and about session, you heat the cap, hear the click...take a draw until vapor production stops and start heating again...waiting on a click that isn't coming, because the cool down click never happened.

it happens to me once in a while.

 

[mephisto]

The chance to combust is even greater when one neglects to replace the cap and inserts the VC into the @Pipes Portside anyway. The crazy thing is, I still was able to grab a decent hit without fully combusting.

 

[sag]

A little project for a rainy weekend

 

[DirtyD]

https://imgur.com/a/hDUtz
https://imgur.com/a/58s8q

A little project for a rainy weekend

Awesome!. What kind of wood??

 

[sag]

how aboutnthis?

Awesome!. What kind of wood??

It is heartwood from a butternut tree. Wind fall from a storm last winter.

 

[Whissmu]

A couple of days ago that i have a triple torch ... a single flame before ... now the click is almost instantaneous; I just turn my vapcap and already I withdraw my torch! to the second I hear the first click and after suck all its steam I still think the toasted is flavor

need to do more tests !!

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

reading has nothing to do with it.
...it's being inattentive

pull up a chair youngin' i'll tell ya how its done...

...sometimes during the excitement of an out and about session, you heat the cap, hear the click...take a draw until vapor production stops and start heating again...waiting on a click that isn't coming, because the cool down click never happened.

it happens to me once in a while.

Ok. But thats like saying, "sometimes in the excitement of sex, I go to put the condom on, and i wind up trying to put it on the wrong way at first."
Ok, I guess the excitement of the moment is a good excuse, or you could have just used your senses and looked at the condom to see which way the rubber rolls before trying to put it on. Sure, maybe the first time you do it that will happen, but after that, you should be able to put a good multi-year streak together where you never accidentally combust. lol

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Thanks for the chart @Stu . I am getting a lot of impressions from it. Not just @Pipes heat up time, but how the 'M" ramps up and sustains it's heat.

i must have combusted.
i collected my avb and looked at it.
it looks rather on the dark side.
a very dark side.

Yea, sounds like you either combusted or found the fringe. If there is any sort of black or carbon in the ABV then there is a touch of combustion. There is an ABV like taste that can occur when you roast it too deep. But that isn't combustion.

One time I had my VC in a water piece and heated it on the hot side. I had perfect white vapor then that damn curl of yellow. Early signs of combustion.

Some poster mentioned the VC to driving a stick shift. I totally agree with that.

Try lighting your 'M' empty and listen for the click. Just to get familiar. What kind of lighter are you using? BTW. If you are using say a Bic lighter then that might explain how you are getting that low level combustion. Now a single torch lighter will take longer twin, etc and with the 'M', the SS stores some heat, I figure. Perhaps getting a dependable torch might help? And speed up your learning curve. Thanks for sharing. Ask questions here and you will find your baseline.

A couple of days ago that i have a triple torch

I have that exact torch. Triples are fast and even a second of heat after the click is risky.

 

[Stu]

Thanks for the chart @Stu . I am getting a lot of impressions from it. Not just @Pipes heat up time, but how the 'M" ramps up and sustains it's heat.

I'm glad you liked it, CF! I hope you enjoy this one as well. Yet another crosspost from the vape temp chart thread:

Here's a chart of VapCap Omni in use:

Some observations contrasting this chart with the one for the M.

1. The Omni clicks a few seconds quicker than the M. Between 3-5 seconds (I've timed them separately several times to validate this). This makes sense as the M has more mass to heat up (5g version 3.5g for the Omni).
2. The M gets about 10°C hotter the Omni in similar usage tests. IMO this is due to the excess energy transferred to the M (stays in the IH heater longer).
3. The M stays hotter longer. I wasn't even able to do a second draw on the Omni before the cooldown click came. This I believe is a combination of the extra mass of the M holding the extra energy (point 2) and the fact that Ti conducts the thermal energy away to the surface allowing to radiate the heat away more quickly.

Both vapes work very well and I don't think one is "better" than the other, but I think it's helpful to understand what's going with them and why they perform slightly different.

Here's the M chart for comparison

 

[analytika]

I'm glad you liked it, CF! I hope you enjoy this one as well. Yet another crosspost from the vape temp chart thread:

Here's a chart of VapCap Omni in use:

Some observations contrasting this chart with the one for the M.

1. The Omni clicks a few seconds quicker than the M. Between 3-5 seconds (I've timed them separately several times to validate this). This makes sense as the M has more mass to heat up (5g version 3.5g for the Omni).
2. The M gets about 10°C hotter the Omni in similar usage tests. IMO this is due to the excess energy transferred to the M (stays in the IH heater longer).
3. The M stays hotter longer. I wasn't even able to do a second draw on the Omni before the cooldown click came. This I believe is a combination of the extra mass of the M holding the extra energy (point 2) and the fact that Ti conducts the thermal energy away to the surface allowing to radiate the heat away more quickly.

Both vapes work very well and I don't think one is "better" than the other, but I think it's helpful to understand what's going with them and why they perform slightly different.

Here's the M chart for comparison

Valve wide open, not carbed? I don't think that's a typical use case. It removes almost entirely the rapid uptick you get from convection on the draw when fingering the carb or where you've dialed in a valve restriction.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Both vapes work very well and I don't think one is "better" than the other, but I think it's helpful to understand what's going with them and why they perform slightly different.

Precisely! Reading your observations and that you can get two draws from the 'M' and how the Omni absorbs and quickly transfers it's energy. Something to consider when using or choosing a torch.
I'm also going through that comparison with my Ti and SS tips and matching with bodies that suit either's heat up function.

The 'M' might be the winter friendly choice perhaps.

 

[InhaleExhale]

A few days back I posted here that my first DV (an Omni with a nanovong body) came with the wrong body. DV responded, and sent me a correct body, and allowed me to maintain the wrong stem! I also got some personal attention from George - thanks very much! While I verbalized my disappointment here, I'm in love with this tool and have been using it daily since I received it. I've had a few sessions with others and they are now interested too.

Thanks again Dynavap!

 

[cybrguy]

I'm glad you liked it, CF! I hope you enjoy this one as well. Yet another crosspost from the vape temp chart thread:

Here's a chart of VapCap Omni in use:

Hey Stu, any chance you could put both lines on one graph?

The 'M' might be the winter friendly choice perhaps.

I tended to leave my dugout in the car. Maybe if the SS takes longer to warm up when cold then the Ti might be better in winter. And winter is coming...

 

[Stu]

Hey Stu, any chance you could put both lines on one graph?

Unfortunately, no. The charts are generated by the software, I can't actually export the raw data to play with.

Of course if I had a second induction heater and a second person to do simultaneous tests, I could use both thermocouples and could put them in the same graph. So if someone wants to come by my lab with their own induction heater to be a testing partner, I'd provide the nachos. BYOB, though.

 

[stardustsailor]

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[Mr.Sifter]

thats the AVB from 6 or 7 minimal chambers.
I have a shitty scale and i messured it before I went to sleep.

0.2g for 7 caps.
thats insane.
One cap is approx 0.03g AVB

ok it might be more when unvaped but still.
I got combustion like fat rips out of my small bubbler.

still very suspicious.
my watertool smelled after that session.
thats unusual - I had to clean it.

I mean, look at my AVB.
It looks okay. On the dark side but no means burnt, right?

How can this vape be healthy.
I woke up and felt like after a night out in amsterdam in 2000.
it must have been combustion smoke.

also the vapor did behave differently then let's say mighty vapor.
It was really thick. too thick.

mmmmmmh, I will take a break from weed again for a while.
feeling to foggy and I look like death itself.



Off topic.
taking a break. I now what that means.
But was does the T stand for in "t-break" ?
Is it some kind of slang or are you meant to drink tea while not vaping ?

 

[5210630772]

thats the AVB from 6 or 7 minimal chambers.
I have a shitty scale and i messured it before I went to sleep.

0.2g for 7 caps.
thats insane.
One cap is approx 0.03g AVB

ok it might be more when unvaped but still.
I got combustion like fat rips out of my small bubbler.

still very suspicious.
my watertool smelled after that session.
thats unusual - I had to clean it.

I mean, look at my AVB.
It looks okay. On the dark side but no means burnt, right?

How can this vape be healthy.
I woke up and felt like after a night out in amsterdam in 2000.
it must have been combustion smoke.

also the vapor did behave differently then let's say mighty vapor.
It was really thick. too thick.

mmmmmmh, I will take a break from weed again for a while.
feeling to foggy and I look like death itself.



Off topic.
taking a break. I now what that means.
But was does the T stand for in "t-break" ?
Is it some kind of slang or are you meant to drink tea while not vaping ?

As you said, it looks on the dark side, but not combusted at all. And I agree.

 

[Mr.Sifter]

thats madness !

after heating to click I could see smoke/vapor coming from under the heatcap. normal ?

And I even could produce whispy clouds from a heated empty vapcap.
very strange.

what is this witchcraft ?

the solo feels much cleaner and softer to me and to my lungs and to my tasting receptors.
But this could be due my exessive usage of heat at the bottom to get a full extraction hit.

next time I use it i will heat the middle and let the blue flame "lick" the vap like a tongue.


edit: my herb waas really bone dry and cured to getno.
perhaps it "cought fire" in vaporization temps.
but the AVB looks okay. not the yellowish, golden brown i am used to.
a bit dirtier and scorched.

 

[stardustsailor]

My ABV usually is way darker than yours .
But ,unlike you ,myself I'm 100% sure that I'm not combusting at all.
I'm pretty sure about it.
I would've noticed for sure in my everyday life
Everyday I walk 10 to 15 km .
I rock climb once a week,wakeboarding everyday/ all-summer and
occasionally I'm sky-running (mountain marathon ).
If I was combusting ,be sure that I would 've been totally aware about,
cause I'm not that young ( 41 ) but still going strong .

And yes I agree with you.
You should take a break from weed.

 

[WakeAndVape]

@Mr.Sifter T-break = Tolerance Break...or maybe THC-break?

you said you want the CBD hits from high temps...but in your other vapes (which i am assuming you go for CBD hits in) the AVB is much lighter yellowish golden color...

how? those yellowish avb colors are from low temp hits AND you can replicate that color of AVB by aiming higher on the cap and bringing the flame closer.

your 'near combustion' abv looks like what is expected with someone trying to drain all the actives in one hit...so are the taste complaints and that pesky: super thick vape that irritates you.

Ok. But thats like saying, "sometimes in the excitement of sex, I go to put the condom on, and i wind up trying to put it on the wrong way at first."

i am too high for this shit...or is it not high enough???

besides...i still put condoms on the wrong way every now and again...got three beautiful kids to prove it

 

[Mr.Sifter]

Ok,
will take a break
will microdose with approx 0.03-0.04g per cap.
will heat the middle of the cap
will keep the dynavap vapcap
will appologize for my crazy mind

will be gone now for a while

 

[stark1]

Atta boy, @Mr.Sifter! That’s called a learning curve (what a learning curve, you do a great job,
bitching LOL at everything good that you do ), hopefully eventually you will see that your glass is half full (Bee Hoppy).


Out of the dark side, and into a more positive note

Mr Stubbs, with his old/new friend (bubble-less) Bubbles.

 

[Diggy Smalls]

thats the AVB from 6 or 7 minimal chambers.
I have a shitty scale and i messured it before I went to sleep.

0.2g for 7 caps.
thats insane.
One cap is approx 0.03g AVB

ok it might be more when unvaped but still.
I got combustion like fat rips out of my small bubbler.

still very suspicious.
my watertool smelled after that session.
thats unusual - I had to clean it.

I mean, look at my AVB.
It looks okay. On the dark side but no means burnt, right?

How can this vape be healthy.
I woke up and felt like after a night out in amsterdam in 2000.
it must have been combustion smoke.

also the vapor did behave differently then let's say mighty vapor.
It was really thick. too thick.

mmmmmmh, I will take a break from weed again for a while.
feeling to foggy and I look like death itself.



Off topic.
taking a break. I now what that means.
But was does the T stand for in "t-break" ?
Is it some kind of slang or are you meant to drink tea while not vaping ?

THC Break is behind the T in T Break, I believe.
So dude, you're definitely not combusting. You're getting vapor right there at the edge of smoking. You could dial it back a little bit and still be good. When you actually combust, you will KNOW it cause it is a horrible smell way worse than anything you've smelled in a while. It's also nasty tasting. I forgot to let the M cool down last night before reapplying heat, and mid draw vapor turned to nasty smoke and I could absolutely tell as it was happening. As a result, only a little bit burns, but yeah it's so foul smelling and tasting you will actually know.

The vapcap delivers thick and meaty vapor. At least you gave it a try before giving up. Kudos! If you listen closely to your vapcap you can hear your herb sizzle. It's pretty wild.