Dynavap VapCap
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Squiby
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@MAbud
All Vapcaps have an air port hole drilled into the midsection. Fresh air enters the air port and travels between the midsection and the condenser. When it reaches the tip it makes a 180° turn, which causes turbulence and pulls and mixes with vapor from the tip and travels up the condenser to the mp. The airflow is manipulated by holding the air port closed with your finger or feathering it.
The Omnivap has a special threaded condenser/mp which allows you to set the airflow to the resistance you prefer without manual manipulation of the air port.
As you screw the mp tighter onto the condenser the mp and condenser come together and the condenser is pulled away from the neck of of the tip which allows free flowing air to travel from the ait port down to the tip.
If you unscrew the mp from the condenser, but not so much that they separate and come apart, the condenser moves into the neck of the tip. The end of the condenser is beveled and as it enters the tip neck it closes off any air in from the sir port. Find your sweet spot, set it and forget it. Easy peasy.
George shows this action in the video below.
All Vapcaps have an air port hole drilled into the midsection. Fresh air enters the air port and travels between the midsection and the condenser. When it reaches the tip it makes a 180° turn, which causes turbulence and pulls and mixes with vapor from the tip and travels up the condenser to the mp. The airflow is manipulated by holding the air port closed with your finger or feathering it.
The Omnivap has a special threaded condenser/mp which allows you to set the airflow to the resistance you prefer without manual manipulation of the air port.
As you screw the mp tighter onto the condenser the mp and condenser come together and the condenser is pulled away from the neck of of the tip which allows free flowing air to travel from the ait port down to the tip.
If you unscrew the mp from the condenser, but not so much that they separate and come apart, the condenser moves into the neck of the tip. The end of the condenser is beveled and as it enters the tip neck it closes off any air in from the sir port. Find your sweet spot, set it and forget it. Easy peasy.
George shows this action in the video below.
WoodVillain
Backwoods Rated
We're just teasing bro, no need to take offense. Feel free to give me a hard time back, it's just in fun... We're all friends here!
Please do ask all the questions you want, that's what the forum is for.
trout_fishing_in_america
Well-Known Member
Don't get disheartened, @MAbud! The peanut gallery around here is very helpful but also has an unique sense of humor. Stick with us and you'll find it is never (100% NEVER - "be nice" is in the rules) meant negatively, it usually just reflects how some members are deeply immersed in the subject matter, and may have been testing for an extended period of time... while others are approaching from a different perspective.
I got confused by the Omni condenser at first too. Think of it like this:
The more you extend the Omni condenser, the more you constrict the air through the carb, and the more hot/dense you make your hits.
To make hits cooler/lighter, retract the condenser, open up the airflow.
As a side note: I have pushed the stock condenser up about 1-1.5mm in all of the non-Omni vc that I have, for a little restriction, in search of the elusive Omni sweet spot.
MinnBobber
Well-Known Member
M tip grinding. For those looking to open up the 3 air grooves in the M tip, I just did it with a Dremel and a small grinding stone. Air flow is a little better.
My inaugural test ended in combustion, but that had nothing to do with the mod. Even with perfect lighting and quiet at my vape station, I still missed a heatup click while using the VC triple jet lighter
That happens too often as it's still a struggle to get consistent vape, not smoke. I intently heat but inconsistent results.
Anybody else a little stubborn about getting Pipes' induction heater?? I bought this to be a butane lighter vape and that's what I want it to do....I've got several battery vapes if I want a battery vape.
I am pondering his next model, the mini portable, however ????
Getting such a device for the VCs is sort of like, for example, trying to use my miniVAP with a butane torch
My inaugural test ended in combustion, but that had nothing to do with the mod. Even with perfect lighting and quiet at my vape station, I still missed a heatup click while using the VC triple jet lighter
That happens too often as it's still a struggle to get consistent vape, not smoke. I intently heat but inconsistent results.
Anybody else a little stubborn about getting Pipes' induction heater?? I bought this to be a butane lighter vape and that's what I want it to do....I've got several battery vapes if I want a battery vape.
I am pondering his next model, the mini portable, however ????
Getting such a device for the VCs is sort of like, for example, trying to use my miniVAP with a butane torch
TheResistance
Well-Known Member
So if you can learn to feather the carb just right, and buy a Ti tip for the M, then practically you have a "manual" Omnivap?
GreenHopper
20 going on 60
M tip grinding. For those looking to open up the 3 air grooves in the M tip, I just did it with a Dremel and a small grinding stone. Air flow is a little better.
My inaugural test ended in combustion, but that had nothing to do with the mod. Even with perfect lighting and quiet at my vape station, I still missed a heatup click while using the VC triple jet lighter
That happens too often as it's still a struggle to get consistent vape, not smoke. I intently heat but inconsistent results.
Anybody else a little stubborn about getting Pipes' induction heater?? I bought this to be a butane lighter vape and that's what I want it to do....I've got several battery vapes if I want a battery vape.
I am pondering his next model, the mini portable, however ????
Getting such a device for the VCs is sort of like, for example, trying to use my miniVAP with a butane torch
No, I love my Induction Heater.
Its efficient, I charge mine every 3-4 weeks vs loading my lighters every 3-4 days.
It's convenient, no spinning, use time to judge temp rather than flame placement.
It's the VapCap signature and experience minus the lighter.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Are you using the CCD and grinding your material? It could be small particles flying through the screen and irritating you. As for the temp of the VapCap in general, I was actually surprised with how cool the vapor was considering how short the actual air path is. Are you doing direct inhales with the VC? As in, straight to your lungs breathing through the VC. That may be it... you could try pulling the vapor into your mouth and then deeper in. I think your issue is either the particulate or the short air path. Most other vaporizers have a longer air path so cooler vapor. I think it's about on par with my original Arizer Solo at level 6 dry, using my modified 14mm stem that is ~1/4 inch shorter in length than the VapCap M.
If I can learn to follow track "lines" just right,and buy a Titanium intake for my Escort ,
then practically I'm driving a "poor man's" Mustang ?
A Ti tip will make a difference -noticeable to some,negligible to others,but there's a difference indeed .
Feathering the carb ,is not the same as a moving condenser.
Think of it this way : It will be almost as difficult as trying to adjust the Air:Fuel ratio on a carburator ,
with placing your hand on the air intake ,allowing for more or less air to be inserted in the carburator.
Ok,back to reality :
With really good practice you might get "somewhere".But not as far as achieving the full effect of the
vapor-air ratio adjustment that a moving condenser with a carb hole fully opened has to offer.
Not even close.
Cheers.
More info :
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A variable ratio flow control may also be provided. For example, adjustment of the ratio between direct vapor chamber flow through and inverse induction dilution air is accomplished by rotating the mouthpiece 136 relative to the body 104 of the vaporizer 130, which threads or unthreads, withdrawing or extending the condenser tube 132 from the mouthpiece 136 and changing the interfacing clearance between the condenser tube 132 and the tip 134, or otherwise modifying and/or modulating the restriction in the dilution air flow path.
[0061] As can be seen in reference to FIGS. 9a-c, a tapered condenser tube 132 (see taper 135), or other flow modulation component, is actuated via the twisting of the mouthpiece 136 relative to the body 104 in order to modulate flow control. In various embodiments, this feature is facilitated by the engagement of the threads 142 provided on the condenser tube 132 with the corresponding mating threads 144 incorporated into the mouthpiece 136 to adjust the condenser tube 132 spacing relative to the tip 134. Accordingly, the physical action used to facilitate this adjustment is a twisting motion. In other words, a user may twist or untwist the mouthpiece 136 relative to the body 104, which may then facilitate the actuation of the condenser tube 132 relative to the mouthpiece 136, body 104, and/or tip 134. While a specific example is provided, other means of adjusting and/or regulating the ratio of air induction in order to optimize vapor concentration (flow modulation) may also be provided, e.g., sliding vs. twisting, or other similar methods of engaging one or both sides of the condenser and its mating component(s). In the embodiment described, the condenser tube 132 remains rotationally fixed relative to the body 104 as the mouthpiece 136 is twisted. The twisting of the mouthpiece 136 threads or unthreads the condenser tube 132, actuating it either towards or away from a valving or restriction point. This enables "dialing in" or modification of the vapor and dilution air mixture. In other words, in various embodiments, the internal or external dimension of the condenser tube 132 and/or interfacing aperture of the tip 134 or body 104 of the vaporizer 130 tapers or has a taper 135 to act as a needle valve and seat for adjusting and modulating flow and moderating the air and vapor ratio.
[0062] The flow modulation may occur at the internal interface between the condenser tube 132 and the tip 134 (which includes the extraction chamber). Accordingly, the tip 134 may have an inside diameter slightly larger than the condenser tube 132. In addition, the tip 134 and/or the condenser tube 132 may have one or more interfacing surfaces. These interfacing surfaces may have a taper incorporated and geometry to provide an incremental increase and/or decrease in an aperture provided between the tip 134 and the condenser tube 132 upon extension and/or retraction relative to one another. The variable aperture provides a means of regulating and/or modulating the ratio between produced vapor and/or dilution air. For example, as a user inhales, vapor is displaced from the extraction chamber by incoming air and condenser tube 132 through the tip 134 (by way of the diffuser). In addition, dilution air can enter the extraction chamber by way of a space (aperture) provided, in various embodiments, between the body 104, condenser tube 132, and mouthpiece 136. In addition or in the alternative, an aperture 146 may be provided in the body 104. While specific examples are described, additional means of either restricting the dilution air and/or promoting the vapor production and/or flow in a user-adjustable fashion would also be considered within the scope of this disclosure.
[0063] In addition to the foregoing, the user adjustable variable air/vapor ratio may be used with both liquid vaporizers and other smoking material (e.g., dry herb or plant) vaporizers. For example, an adjustable variable air/vapor ratio may function via a similar user actuated valving and ratio adjustment system. In one embodiment this feature may be accomplished via twisting the mouthpiece 136 portion of the vaporizer 130 relative to the body 104, which facilitates the extension and or retraction of the condenser relative to the tip 134 valving modulation. This valving may be accomplished by having a threaded portion of the inner or condenser tube 132 threaded into the mouthpiece 136, therefore when the mouthpiece 136 is rotated relative to the condenser tube 132, the condenser tube 132 is then either extended or withdrawn from/into the mouthpiece 136.
[0064] As indicated above, the flow modulation may occur at the internal interface between the condenser tube 132 and the tip 134 (which includes the extraction chamber). The tip 134 may have an inside diameter slightly larger than the condenser tube 132 and either the tip 134 or the condenser tube 132 or both have a taper incorporated into their respective interfacing surfaces and dimensions to provide an incremental increase and/or decrease in aperture upon extension and/or retraction relative to one another. It is this variable aperture, which may be responsible for one described means of regulating and/or modulating the ratio between produced vapor and/or dilution air.
(...)
[0067] Another embodiment of or means for modulating flow may include valving or otherwise restricting the apertures from the external side of the condenser 132. This may be accomplished via a component of the device or a separate device, including the operator's fingers.
(...)
http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Exothermal-vaporizer/WO2017011698.html
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TheResistance
Well-Known Member
If I can learn to follow track "lines" just right,and buy a Titanium intake for my Escort ,
then practically I'm driving a "poor man's" Mustang ?
A Ti tip will make a difference -noticeable to some,negligible to others,but there's a difference indeed .
Feathering the carb ,is not the same as a moving condenser.
Think of it this way : It will be almost as difficult as trying to adjust the Air:Fuel ratio on a carburator ,
with placing your hand on the air intake ,allowing for more or less air to be inserted in the carburator.
Ok,back to reality :
With really good practice you might get "somewhere".But not as far as achieving the full effect of the
vapor-air ratio adjustment that a moving condenser with a carb hole fully opened has to offer.
Not even close.
Cheers.
Thanks for the help, I guess I'm trying to find a way to get really close to the Omnivap spending the least amount of money if thats possible. But it's inevitable, I can't hold on to the money any longer I have to have that Ti XL...
Dynavaper
Karma Farmer
The microdosers probably do it all the time. I do it sometimes. A short hit before the boring meeting and some longer hits afterwards to forget about all the stupid stuff I heard. Works well!
There is absolutely no reason to completely finish a bowl everytime. Take as much as you need and eventually continue later on!
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Having an M, i suppose the omni would be better as it cools down faster thus less wasted herbs?The microdosers probably do it all the time. I do it sometimes. A short hit before the boring meeting and a longer hit afterwards to forget about all the stupid stuff I heard. Works well!
There is absolutely no reason to completely finish a bowl everytime. Take as much as you need and eventually continue later on!
Dynavaper
Karma Farmer
Yes, if you are up to reach the maximum when it comes to preserving your herb, then the TI tip (does not have to be an Omni condenser) might be the better choice, because of the reason you mentioned. But we are talking about slight, not huge, differences here. Your material does not get "roasted" in the M, just because it takes some seconds longer to fully cool down.
Ooh it's a pleasant Saturday morning delivery for me. . .
A Sandblasted M and Gauntlet lighter make a handsome pair.
I knew I would immediately have a Ti-Tip on it. . Like my other M does.
The M is my favourite Stem, and I prefer the SS-condenser as it is wider and restricts the wide open airflow a little more than the Ti-condensers. The Sandblasted Tip & Cap are going on my back up Woody that now also has a SS condenser inside. . .
A Sandblasted M and Gauntlet lighter make a handsome pair.
I knew I would immediately have a Ti-Tip on it. . Like my other M does.
The M is my favourite Stem, and I prefer the SS-condenser as it is wider and restricts the wide open airflow a little more than the Ti-condensers. The Sandblasted Tip & Cap are going on my back up Woody that now also has a SS condenser inside. . .
Dynavaper
Karma Farmer
The second and louder one is the final reminder. There are two for redundancy. Strange that you had no manual (not that it is very big, just a small sheet of paper). I unfortunately have no scanner here - anyone got a PDF for @MAbud?
Edit -> Here is the same content as in the manual:
https://www.dynavap.com/use-instructions
Edit -> Here is the same content as in the manual:
https://www.dynavap.com/use-instructions
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DirtyD
Well-Known Member
How high is that guy talking to George.. this is the first thing I ever saw about vapcap years ago...
Squiby
Well-Known Member
I load the amount I intend to vape and dump the chamber afterwards. I go as low as .015 grams for a tiny attitude adjustment. I never fill the chamber take a toke and then save it for later.
However with concentrates, I load a concentrate pad up and sip it all day long.
Smokey McVape
Well-Known Member
The Vapcap IS a reliable cloud one-hitter. There are over 800 pages on this thread for that very reason. Stop listening to the 1% of people who can't use their Vapcap properly. Do yourself a favour and buy the M. You will not regret it.
ETC.
