Dynavap VapCap

[cybrguy]

Because as the cap is being heated, it is transferring that heat to the tip that it's in contact with... via conduction.

I guess I have been looking at the VC process more as the direct transfer of heat from the torch through the cap to the load and the heating of air as its pulled through the cap and than heating the load and less at the tip being a heat sync pulling heat from the cap and additionally heating the load with ambient heat. Because I usually use my VC as a personal vape rather than handing it off and I usually only have one load at a time, my tip doesn't get extremely hot and most of the action I get is more directly from the cap. That has led to my incorrectly discounting the action of the tip itself.
No doubt the VC is a serious piece of engineering and has a great deal more going on than your average conduction vape.

 

[flotntoke]

Picked up one of these real cheap from a Chinese vendor I wasn't familiar with. Came quickly (week) and looks to be the real deal at a great price. Got all 3 tips. Haven't yet used it with concentrates, as intended, but fits well on a DynaVap silicone mouthpiece. So, easy to hookup to any VC (and more I'm sure). Still playing with it at home, but seems perfect for pocket bubbling! No leaks at all walking around house (sitting, standing, up & down, etc) with it in jeans front pocket.

Can't wait to try it with some goo in the dish, but liking it almost as well as DDave vapor tamer for VC and a bit smaller form factor that makes it seem less likely to be broken.

 

[darbarikanada]

For instance: m is 50$, Omni is 170$ ish. Does the Omni outperform it or is it just materials or look?

based on numerous contributions to this thread, esp. people who have extensive experience with all the VCs, I think the consensus is that all the non-glass VCs perform pretty much the same, but the M, being steel, takes a bit longer to both heat and cool down than all the Ti tipped VCs. otherwise, it's really about 'optics'.

 

[jambandphan03]

Ok, first attempt at making a glass stem for the M. I tried making it to slip the heat cap over the end, but the fit was too tight, couldn't get any airflow, so I just popped a bit of high temp food grade silicone on the end, and put the head of the M on there. Illuminati roll stop, carb hole, flat mouthpiece, nothing fancy. I also slid some bead work I did years ago, on the end just for fun. Its a start and it rips!

 

[stressed]

i've been playing with my omni off and on for a couple weeks. it is perfect for stealth, except for the flame ) i love the taste of the first hit but despite my trying many different things (2 vs 3 flame lighters, various heights from the flame etc. fill the bowl vs 1/2 fill the bowl (i do best with less)...) , it was still hit and miss when i would grind my weed. ground it medium and fine. both dry buds and hydrated ones. i've run a few grams through the omni. i have 10 genetics at the moment. all top shelf of course.

so a couple days ago i just put in some very tiny bits off a bud. they vaped beautifully and thoroughly and now i'm getting better at not burning the weed or pushing it to the point where it tastes nasty. unground seems to be the way to go for me.

nothing beats my herbalizer though. i can 1/2 fill a bag with the same amount of weed and get a few nice sized tokes. but then again, $50 vs $500 and stealth vs not stealth.

there are a couple hundred new posts so i have to go read on how other newbs are doing.

edit- i had 2 grams of concentrate but didn't try any of it with the omni. i read how squiby does it with a concentrate pad and that is perfect. i'll give it a whirl next time i hit up the store.

 

[VapCap]

Greetings!

Happy holiday. We have a 3 day weekend. This is the time of year around where we live considered the beginning of the summer. After all the excitement from April and the M launch it seemed good to have everyone take a day off.
But then again, I like having homework.
Here is some M assembly by the campfire.

The past few weeks have been awesome. We have been focusing on improving our organization as well as many of our other systems.
One of the more interesting ones was a repair and upgrade to our laser.
Here it is in action cutting a cap.

It was having some difficulty with accuracy and repeatability. This was one of the reasons we had to hold off on the custom caps a while back. So if all goes well we will be able to make these again.

Thank you for the support. More fun things coming.

George

 

[almost there]

Greetings!

Happy holiday. We have a 3 day weekend. This is the time of year around where we live considered the beginning of the summer. After all the excitement from April and the M launch it seemed good to have everyone take a day off.
But then again, I like having homework.
Here is some M assembly by the campfire.

The past few weeks have been awesome. We have been focusing on improving our organization as well as many of our other systems.
One of the more interesting ones was a repair and upgrade to our laser.
Here it is in action cutting a cap.

It was having some difficulty with accuracy and repeatability. This was one of the reasons we had to hold off on the custom caps a while back. So if all goes well we will be able to make these again.

Thank you for the support. More fun things coming.

George

George, u slave driver. Have a wonderful BBQ, well done and enjoy a well deserved "break"

 

[cybrguy]

Have we seen a pic of a Gen5 tip next to an M tip?

 

[ClearBlueLou]

Ok guys(and ladies) I'm interested in one of these. They just look beautiful to me, and only needing a lighter and no batteries seems cool. Question I have for all of you is which one to choose? Which one is better? Why should I choose one or the other? Helppp please

For instance: m is 50$, Omni is 170$ ish. Does the Omni outperform it or is it just materials or look?

The two 'Caps are NOT the same...other than that, it gets esoteric trying to pick one over the other.

My first 'Cap was/is an Omni, and it's a fine thing, for sure - but I genuinely think the M is a better opening move: it has minimal variation, minimal adjustment: coaxing the results you want is a matter of learning the ways of torch and tip, and little else - and because there are really no barriers to use in terms of complications, the learning curve is pretty easy. The Omni is a more sophisticated tool, but much of that sophistication was lost on me until I started getting clue: going from a month or so of strict M usage back to my Omni has been a revelation, I'm having far greater success/results now than ever before with it. M provides a stable, dependable baseline: the virtues of the Omni are best seen against that background, IMO. And yes, I still LOVE my M...but I'm beginning to loan them out t selected friends...I really do see a day when 'Caps are as common - or more - than packs of papers....

You may be perfectly satisfied with an M: it's easy to do! And I love my Omni...but if I could have done it this way, I'd have got the M - and then the Omni

I guess I have been looking at the VC process more as the direct transfer of heat from the torch through the cap to the load and the heating of air as its pulled through the cap and than heating the load and less at the tip being a heat sync pulling heat from the cap and additionally heating the load with ambient heat. Because I usually use my VC as a personal vape rather than handing it off and I usually only have one load at a time, my tip doesn't get extremely hot and most of the action I get is more directly from the cap. That has led to my incorrectly discounting the action of the tip itself.
No doubt the VC is a serious piece of engineering and has a great deal more going on than your average conduction vape.

The thing is, the cap is too thin and light to hold much heat: it HAS to go somewhere, and that massive SS tip is the perfect place (it's also the perfect target for one of George's in-line triple torches): it's an oven in which the herb bakes, releasing its good stuff. I use mine as a personal device as well, not handing it about between pulls - but that's allowed me to experiment with back-to-back heats; no, the M does NOT get extremely hot, but the 'oven' remains at a more even temp then the Ti, and that allows a basis for more consistent results.

All the things you mentioned up front are real and valid...as are other things.... Honestly, I wish the Ti tip I received after 420 had been the 5-fin new model; the variations seem insignificant, but the experiences downstream say otherwise...then again, I'm an early adopter, always ready to see what's new.

 

[Doktor Dub]

and after several days and loads in my now only half-new Omnivap, still no real Questions - thanks to this great and informative Thread.

what would be interesting for me: in which position do you all have your screen and is it ok to have it just all way down (like my Omni came...)?

Do you have any tips for a) great Taste (cant get it to Taste 100% as good as my Vapman till now)

Do you have any Tips for b) greatest effect?

Practical and aesthetical, i like my Vapcap very much!

 

[Ricardo]

what would be interesting for me: in which position do you all have your screen and is it ok to have it just all way down (like my Omni came...)?

Screen in bottom groove - .07 grams

Screen in middle groove - .05 grams

Screen in top groove - .03 grams

Personally, as a lightweight, I have my screen in the top groove with a hemp filter between the middle and top groove (all folkowing @Squiby's advice) . It really is a small load, maybe too small for many people but if I load it nice and spongy, preheat the cap a little, I get good flavour on the first toke, decent clouds on the second and sometimes third cycle.
Where I'm struggling a little is deciding on a best setting for the adjustable condenser on the OmniVap. 80%+ closed appears to be a popular setting but I find the draw really constricted to the extent that I'm hurting my back from sucking so hard! I know the carb allows more airflow but that seems to be at the expense of clouds. But I continue to experiment.

 

[ClearBlueLou]

and after several days and loads in my now only half-new Omnivap, still no real Questions - thanks to this great and informative Thread.

what would be interesting for me: in which position do you all have your screen and is it ok to have it just all way down (like my Omni came...)?

Do you have any tips for a) great Taste (cant get it to Taste 100% as good as my Vapman till now)

Do you have any Tips for b) greatest effect?

Practical and aesthetical, i like my Vapcap very much!

I have used all three positions in Omni and the full-bowl in M. For me, for now, the full bowl wins.

Each of them is a different challenge in the dance of heat and metal; I have concluded that I will work through those as my 'Caps and I sail thru the years, meaning I now use only the full bowl configuration: "greasing the groove" as trainers say, perfecting basic skills. A loosely-filled bowl of my regular grind weighs 0.045g, lasts roughly 3 heats. Taste is great for those first 3, goes away mostly after that; extra cooking (a few seconds beyond the click) will bring back flavor and vapor, but it's harsher and a different flavor.

Don't be afraid to fill the bowl again: @0.045g, there's ~22 bowls in a gram....

 

[N0nexistent]

Does anyone know approximately when the Omnivap XL is going to be released? I'm planning on picking up a Vapcap, and this is the model I want. I looked on the website, and all I saw was a "coming soon."

 

[toked23]

The two 'Caps are NOT the same...other than that, it gets esoteric trying to pick one over the other.

My first 'Cap was/is an Omni, and it's a fine thing, for sure - but I genuinely think the M is a better opening move: it has minimal variation, minimal adjustment: coaxing the results you want is a matter of learning the ways of torch and tip, and little else - and because there are really no barriers to use in terms of complications, the learning curve is pretty easy. The Omni is a more sophisticated tool, but much of that sophistication was lost on me until I started getting clue: going from a month or so of strict M usage back to my Omni has been a revelation, I'm having far greater success/results now than ever before with it. M provides a stable, dependable baseline: the virtues of the Omni are best seen against that background, IMO. And yes, I still LOVE my M...but I'm beginning to loan them out t selected friends...I really do see a day when 'Caps are as common - or more - than packs of papers....

You may be perfectly satisfied with an M: it's easy to do! And I love my Omni...but if I could have done it this way, I'd have got the M - and then the Omni


The thing is, the cap is too thin and light to hold much heat: it HAS to go somewhere, and that massive SS tip is the perfect place (it's also the perfect target for one of George's in-line triple torches): it's an oven in which the herb bakes, releasing its good stuff. I use mine as a personal device as well, not handing it about between pulls - but that's allowed me to experiment with back-to-back heats; no, the M does NOT get extremely hot, but the 'oven' remains at a more even temp then the Ti, and that allows a basis for more consistent results.

All the things you mentioned up front are real and valid...as are other things.... Honestly, I wish the Ti tip I received after 420 had been the 5-fin new model; the variations seem insignificant, but the experiences downstream say otherwise...then again, I'm an early adopter, always ready to see what's new.

So does the M have a chamber that you can use different amounts?

 

[OldCombustor]

So does the M have a chamber that you can use different amounts?

You can use as much or as little as you like with the M.
The Ti Caps have indentations so the screen may be set to different levels to resize the chamber.

 

[DirtyD]

IMO the M works better if I just put a little tiny piece of flower in the bowl. Half the size of a popcorn kernel.still get three big rips. Unreal. Almost forces me to microdose. Had M since mid April and am getting high as all holy hell on smaller and smaller amounts. Never thought that would or could happen to me. Cheers! D.

 

[cybrguy]

I like my M, and I tend to take it with me to environs where I have a better chance of losing it or needing to "toss" it, as it is the least expensive of my vapcaps. That being said, however, I much prefer the Ti tips and their faster response and lower residual heat.

I'm curious about the G5 tip, but I can wait until I have need of another VC to try it out.

 

[Gigsabits53]

IMO the M works better if I just put a little tiny piece of flower in the bowl. Half the size of a popcorn kernel.still get three big rips. Unreal. Almost forces me to microdose. Had M since mid April and am getting high as all holy hell on smaller and smaller amounts. Never thought that would or could happen to me. Cheers! D.

I like to hear this as I have an M on the way. I was hoping this vape would be excellent for efficiency. I am using my UD which is also very efficient, but it's always nice to have other options. For the price I figure, how do I lose?

 

[toked23]

Any discounts on the M or whatever for FC folks?

 

[hafalump]

I am new to the vapcap. Can I use a Vong like a regular vapcap? Use it like a dry stem, and thru water?

 

[SloJimFizz]

I am new to the vapcap. Can I use a Vong like a regular vapcap? Use it like a dry stem, and thru water?

Most certainly.
The Vong is the older shape, and the Nanovong is the latest shape with a more bubbler friendly air port location.

 

[stark1]

Any discounts on the M or whatever for FC folks?

You unfortunately missed out on the last two sales. But, the next sale might be coming around our Patriotic corner.....

 

[duff]

Day at the in-laws?... I'm ready.

 

[almost there]

Day at the in-laws?... I'm ready.

They must not be so bad if that's all u need in ur survival pack

 

[stark1]

Saddle, up! (Gravity Dropper)