Dynavap VapCap
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bounce5
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In that case, I suggest to just get the "M" without the Ti tip. It's absolutely great with it's SS tip. It does get warm, but it's surprisingly manageable. I got a fat mouthpiece and put that on it and put a strip of another fat mouthpiece as a handle farther up. Part of the reason I did that was because if not it jiggles in the green case that it comes in. But it is manageable. The heat dissipates quickly and it get's about as hot as a log vape or maybe a Vapman gets in your hand after several heat ups. George, the inventor, is very ingenious in what he has created.
Baron you called it "ballot box stuffing" as if a heinous electoral crime was committed. It was a super casual question to a small group of vape users.
You need a single jet torch! https://giphy.com/gifs/3ohze2yRcQcxFBs9X2
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grokit
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I like the vapecritic's reviews in general. But I am also in the camp that it makes more sense that he closed the poll because he didn't like the results, as well as how they all came in at once. Your/his explanation is certainly more pc though. This is a very enthusiastic bunch, and when we found out about the poll here it was already late. If we had started voting earlier and staggered them a bit, the vapcap would have probably won by a landslide. All I wrote when I voted was vapcap, because I figured that's all he needed besides a valid email to discourage multiple voting. If there was a requirement for my vote to count where I was supposed to provide justification for my vote or background on myself, I must have missed that part.
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alterego420
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He wants to know which vapes are popular and then disregards a whole load of votes? Genuine? Smells more like bullshit to me, to be honest.
I like the vapecritic's reviews in general. But I am also in the camp that it makes more sense that he closed the poll because he didn't like the results, as well as how they all came in at once. Your/his explanation is certainly more pc though. This is a very enthusiastic bunch, and when we found out about the poll here it was already late. If we had started voting earlier and staggered them a bit, the vapcap would have probably won by a landslide. All I wrote when I voted was vapcap, because I figured that's all he needed besides a valid email to discourage multiple votes. If there was a requirement for my vote to count where I was supposed to provide justification for my vote or background on myself, I must have missed that part.
The best vape critics reside within this forum and even within this thread in particular.
We all already know the truth.
I decided to give Vapecritic the benefit of the doubt, in case, for all I can be certain, he did genuinely feel that a pro vapcap forum had led to a surge of vapcap votes which was not also matched by a similar deliberate, conscious surge from a Storez and Bickel pro crowd.
And in fairness, it is true that the votes which were discarded, mostly did not adhere to the voting guidelines, with vape experience background, and specific reasons.
I am not actualy saying that I firmly belive he is not biased towards Storez and Bickel. I am not a big fan of S&B since hearing how they tried to sew Vriptech in the most petty manner on unjust grounds, dragging out a long court case, eventually losing, when they could have just cooperated in the first place, in a win win situation.
I dont know enough about Vapecritic to be certain either way, Im am open to all possibilities.
Regardless, to have a poll like that with SO FEW votes, when there must be thousands of both S&B owners, and also Vapcap owners (already!), seems a bit ridiculous.
To close the poll that soon, for whatever reason, nullifies the result to me.
I was hoping word would get around in the S&B community, so that the games could begin, and run their course over a longer time.
I dont really care too much about it. But I do genuinely feel that there will soon be far more satisfied vapcap owners out there (if not already), than either S&B model, and I would like to see a fair poll to reflect that somehow.
I definitely bet good money that Dynavap sell the most vaporrizers than any other manufacturer, and also that the percentage of vapcap buyers who are totally satisfied with their vapcaps, is as high, if not higher than any other vaporizer!
And in fairness, it is true that the votes which were discarded, mostly did not adhere to the voting guidelines, with vape experience background, and specific reasons.
I am not actualy saying that I firmly belive he is not biased towards Storez and Bickel. I am not a big fan of S&B since hearing how they tried to sew Vriptech in the most petty manner on unjust grounds, dragging out a long court case, eventually losing, when they could have just cooperated in the first place, in a win win situation.
I dont know enough about Vapecritic to be certain either way, Im am open to all possibilities.
Regardless, to have a poll like that with SO FEW votes, when there must be thousands of both S&B owners, and also Vapcap owners (already!), seems a bit ridiculous.
To close the poll that soon, for whatever reason, nullifies the result to me.
I was hoping word would get around in the S&B community, so that the games could begin, and run their course over a longer time.
I dont really care too much about it. But I do genuinely feel that there will soon be far more satisfied vapcap owners out there (if not already), than either S&B model, and I would like to see a fair poll to reflect that somehow.
I definitely bet good money that Dynavap sell the most vaporrizers than any other manufacturer, and also that the percentage of vapcap buyers who are totally satisfied with their vapcaps, is as high, if not higher than any other vaporizer!
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MinnBobber
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.......................................................................................................The best vape critics reside within this forum and even within this thread in particular.
We all already know the truth.
To Vape Critic : "you can't handle the truth"
StonerSloth
cui bono?
Got a Nonavong-XLS on the way.
Looking forward to trying v4 of the Ti cap - my old v2 is going strong, but based on the photos it looks like the v4 should have a lot more airflow??
Looking forward to trying v4 of the Ti cap - my old v2 is going strong, but based on the photos it looks like the v4 should have a lot more airflow??
janusportal
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Ah, that's a little weird...No XL Dynastashs' to be found either.
Based on that, I've ordered the "Dynakit Deluxe" and I'll hold out on the cocobolo Dynastash returning.
Baron23
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You do understand that this site also makes money off of sponsor clicks and other features, right.
I don't agree that its fair for him to question Bud's integrity. He had absolutely not one shred of evidence to support questioning his integrity (and he admitted as such when he labeled it 'speculation') and neither do you.
He does not get money from S&B. You will not find a link direct to sales at S&B. He does have sponsorship and links from a number of large retail outlets that many of us also tend to like....puffitup, vapornation, etc. and he is very up front about it.
Another note, EVERY critic and MJ related website out there gets money from industry...every one of them.
As far as Bud favoring S&B vapes....I dunno....I favor Porches....because they make a GREAT fucking auto. Consider that a bit.
I say to you and others here.....you want to question his integrity....then have some yourself and post your thoughts and speculation over on his forum and to his face.
I keep thinking that the only reason for you guys to complain about the poll and question Bud's character is because your little darling didn't win the beauty contest. Sad, really.
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My nonavong sits very low in one of my 14mm pieces, just about makes a seal. Another one it doesn't seal at all (although this is an unusually wide tapered joint). However I've found it makes a perfect airtight seal with my 18-14 adapter, so I'm set for all 18mm pieces.
As far as max vapor production, if you're planning to use it exclusively through glass, i'd recommended adding another x ring at the end of the condenser, just behind the tip, this will permanently block the carb and make it one less thing to worry about.
My VonG technique is to use a double torch, flames in line with the cap, aimed at the base of the cap (the flames should be covering the YNVA letters on the cap). It'll take a lot longer to click, I also find this method usually results I'm two clicks, about a second apart. Keep heating until the second click. Vapour is already pouring out, so whack it straight in the glass and Start pulling. I find for best extraction it's best to go slow and steady, this seems to give the air more of a chance to heat up. If you try to rip it too hard I find you cool the load down too quickly.
Using this technique I can get a 2 hit full extraction (dark brown avb) every time. With a slight heat past the click you can do it in one hit, although I've almost combusted doing this, and I find you end up destroying the flavour quicker.
Edit: forgot to say, check the seal with the joint by blocking the carb off with an X ring, dropping it into the joint with the cap off and drawing on it while sealing the tip with your thumb. You'll want to see little to no bubbles, if it still bubbles away (like it does with one of mine) then that's probably part of the problem. You might be able to find a dropdown adapter that it will make a seal with.
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cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Is that a Nonavong Stem plus an S mouthpiece? Hmmmm...
Smokey McVape
Well-Known Member
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Thanks Vapor_Eyes.@Smokey McVape Don't take anything personal, we are only trying to be helpful!
In practice I find my OG is no more likely to combust than my Ti tip models if you respect the click. After your most recent comment about jet black ABV I think I know what's going on.
When I first got my Omni I often thought I was combusting because the ABV would end up almost black. It had been a while since I had last combusted so I forgot the taste. I was also using mostly convection vaporizers which don't darken your materials as much, especially at the mid-range temps I usually use. With my VapCaps I like to go for high temp extractions and this results in nearly black ABV if completely extracted.
After a while of getting this near black ABV I had an incident of actual combustion. The taste was unmistakable and foul.
It will also linger and affect the flavor of your next chamber. With a near-black extraction my next chambers always taste fresh and delicious. Not so when I have accidentally combusted.
A standard high temp extraction doesn't taste amazing in the last few hits, but it certainly tastes a lot better than combustion. The smoke will linger in the air and have a yellow tinge. Vapor will disperse within 15-20 seconds.
I will say the OG seems to reach a higher temp at the click. If you are going for lower temp extractions the Ti tip is probably a better choice. I think it is a little easier to "adjust" the temp with the Ti tips. The solid glass surface seems to achieve a more consistent temp across the chamber no matter where you heat. The grooves in the Ti tips seem to insulate the top from the bottom if that makes sense, so if you're heating near the cap the bottom of the chamber walls won't get as hot with Ti as it will with glass.
I'm no engineer so take my thoughts with a grain of salt.
I almost always heat past the click and I go for that near black ABV most of the time. This usually takes 3-5 heating cycles. If I only do two heating cycles I end up with a medium-brown ABV. Then I get a cycle or two and end up with dark brown ABV. The next cycle or two are whispy clean up hits that end in near black ABV.
In short, I think you will be more pleased with the performance of the Ti tip over the glass. It is easier to dial in the low temps. Also, you may not want to do a full amount of heating cycles, when you have some extra time, wait for everything to cool down and check the chamber contents between heating cycles to find your preferred stopping point, which you can use as a reference in the future.
Also, it is easier to get low temps in any model with a loose pack versus a tight pack. Coarser grind is also better for low temps, or even not grinding at all.
For what it's worth I pack mine full of medium grind, .10 grams, heat past the click for two seconds, and never have problems with combustion in any of my models unless I'm too medicated and forget to wait for the cool down click before reheating. That's only happened a couple times.
baxter
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I placed my order for an M about 2 hours into the first day of the 420 sale (April 14).
I just received a confirmation email that my order is in transit. This is a very pleasant surprise, I thought it would be a really long wait with the torrent of new orders that must have come in.
I am sure it helped that I just placed my order and did not ask them questions or make special requests.
I just received a confirmation email that my order is in transit. This is a very pleasant surprise, I thought it would be a really long wait with the torrent of new orders that must have come in.
I am sure it helped that I just placed my order and did not ask them questions or make special requests.
needalift
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I have been reading this back and forth about the vape critics poll and all I have to say about it is who cares ?? If Bud gets kickbacks , good for him . If that swayed him to stop the poll, what difference does it make ??? If it didn't and he stopped based on the fact that he did think it was being manipulated , then I commend him on trying to make things fair . I can't imagine that poll is going to hurt Dynavap a bit , nor would it hurt S&B had all of the votes went through . Everybody getting upset over nothing .
@Baron23 , I'm sorry your friend is catching backlash . I hope this is forgotten about soon . On another note , I hope you're not too pissed off at us that you can't continue to enjoy our praising a product that we stand behind because of its quality from manufacturing to customer service on to performance. You know you enjoy looking at the Barbie posed pics
@ everybody , it's just a poll , forget about it and pick up a vapcap ( or whatever vape you prefer ) and enjoy .
@Baron23 , I'm sorry your friend is catching backlash . I hope this is forgotten about soon . On another note , I hope you're not too pissed off at us that you can't continue to enjoy our praising a product that we stand behind because of its quality from manufacturing to customer service on to performance. You know you enjoy looking at the Barbie posed pics
@ everybody , it's just a poll , forget about it and pick up a vapcap ( or whatever vape you prefer ) and enjoy .
hinglemccringleberry
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Don't come at me acting like I "questioned his integrity" because I wanted to say something about other reasons he could've ended the poll. I don't actually have anything against him ending the poll for that reason whether its true or not. I don't actually judge if he got irritated with vapcap fanboys and closed it- I also don't care if he had a financial motive for closing the poll, hell, I might have closed it too if I were him. And that's because the results are pretty much there now either way- the Vapcap has established itself as a heavyweight contender in the market, which can be seen even with the poll closed. That's the part I'm glad to see and the point has been made now. So whether i'm right or wrong about the financial motive doesn't matter: 1) I labeled it a speculation so your angry response was futile, and 2) you must have assumed that I was irritated that he closed the poll, which I wasn't. Oh speaking of straw man fallacies, that's actually what you're doing to me. For you to say that I questioned his integrity and "spread fake news" is more of a straw man fallacy than anything I said; you're putting thoughts into my head to make it easier for you to attack me. I labeled it speculation precisely so I wouldn't get shat on the way you're shitting on me. In fact, I made the point in Bud's favor that there are a bunch of rabid vapcap fanboys who may have spoiled the poll, which you conveniently skipped over in your tirade. Lol. Sad, really.You do understand that this site also makes money off of sponsor clicks and other features, right.
I don't agree that its fair for him to question Bud's integrity. He had absolutely not one shred of evidence to support questioning his integrity (and he admitted as such when he labeled it 'speculation') and neither do you.
He does not get money from S&B. You will not find a link direct to sales at S&B. He does have sponsorship and links from a number of large retail outlets that many of us also tend to like....puffitup, vapornation, etc. and he is very up front about it.
Another note, EVERY critic and MJ related website out there gets money from industry...every one of them.
As far as Bud favoring S&B vapes....I dunno....I favor Porches....because they make a GREAT fucking auto. Consider that a bit.
I say to you and others here.....you want to question his integrity....then have some yourself and post your thoughts and speculation over on his forum and to his face.
I keep thinking that the only reason for you guys to complain about the poll and question Bud's character is because your little darling didn't win the beauty contest. Sad, really.
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Guys, probably better to hear it from "just a member" and one called Krazy at that:
http://fuckcombustion.com/rules/
http://fuckcombustion.com/rules/
Well said, @needalift. No more talk of the poll here, please. Take it to PMs if you want to discuss that stuff.
Thank you.
Dynalowrider
Well-Known Member
Having problems sealing your 14mm joints.
I picked up Myna style hose grommets from a hookah shop. They are little silicone cones used to gasket the connections in the hookah hose.
These are great for any 14mm joint. Doc
I picked up Myna style hose grommets from a hookah shop. They are little silicone cones used to gasket the connections in the hookah hose.
These are great for any 14mm joint. Doc
vapeanderson
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Hi all, just got my M and am preparing to clean it before use. A couple questions:
Edit: one additional question: is there a slot/groove where the CCD should sit in the top / how do you know the CCD is in the correct place?
- What's the easiest way to get the condenser out of the body? I had to gently push from the mouthpiece side with a key to get it to pop out.
- I have been reading the posts about o-ring positioning, but I'm still not sure where to place the small o-ring on the condenser. Where is it by "default"? And how should I move it to adjust the draw? Which way would I move it and what is the range of possible positions?
Edit: one additional question: is there a slot/groove where the CCD should sit in the top / how do you know the CCD is in the correct place?
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seaofgreens
My Mind Is Free
To pile on, are the SS tip O-rings the same as the ti tip O-rings?
stark1
Lonesome Planet
Just in case you guys aren't spending enough money this weekend already, I noticed the Scorch Tactical dual jet torch is back in stock on Amazon. I got a lot of questions about it when I posted a picture with it and my amboyna burl VonG last month, but it was backordered.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G...141&sr=8-1&keywords=scorch+tactical+ergonomic
@Vapor_Eyes, Dude, thanks for the heads up on the Scorch torch.
Ordered one from fleaBay instead ( shipping gratis ) for $14 Saturday, got it Monday.
One happy (fancy) camper, here.
@vapeanderson, easiest way to get the condenser out is to remove the tip, then use the "digger-outer" on the cap to push condenser out the mouthpiece end.
Regarding o-rings, default position for the small one is where the two little grooves are. This positions the o-ring in between your mouth and the carb when assembled, and lets the air in freely. If you slide the o-ring toward the tip end of the condenser tube until it is between the carb and the tip when assembled, this will essentially plug the carb. As far as range of possible positions, it's basically on or off. Either carb open or closed.
Edit: I suppose you could position the o-ring right on top of the carb (or rather underneath) so that it partially blocks the hole. Theoretically you could adjust the airflow from all the way open to all the way closed. Though in practice I think it would be hard to get the positioning exactly where you wanted it. Besides, this is what we have the omni for!
Edit again: OK I just tried moving the o-ring to adjust the airflow, and realized that even with it pushed past the carb, there's still air that gets around it. So it can never fully block the air from the carb. Maybe if you put a bigger o-ring in place of the small, but that's too much trouble if you ask me. My vapcaps work just fine as they are. Though I kind of like the partially restricted flow from moving the o-ring on my M's condenser up past the carb. I may keep it this way for a while...
@seaofgreens, yes SS hi-temp o-rings are the same as the Ti tip ones as far as I can tell.
Regarding o-rings, default position for the small one is where the two little grooves are. This positions the o-ring in between your mouth and the carb when assembled, and lets the air in freely. If you slide the o-ring toward the tip end of the condenser tube until it is between the carb and the tip when assembled, this will essentially plug the carb. As far as range of possible positions, it's basically on or off. Either carb open or closed.
Edit: I suppose you could position the o-ring right on top of the carb (or rather underneath) so that it partially blocks the hole. Theoretically you could adjust the airflow from all the way open to all the way closed. Though in practice I think it would be hard to get the positioning exactly where you wanted it. Besides, this is what we have the omni for!
Edit again: OK I just tried moving the o-ring to adjust the airflow, and realized that even with it pushed past the carb, there's still air that gets around it. So it can never fully block the air from the carb. Maybe if you put a bigger o-ring in place of the small, but that's too much trouble if you ask me. My vapcaps work just fine as they are. Though I kind of like the partially restricted flow from moving the o-ring on my M's condenser up past the carb. I may keep it this way for a while...
@seaofgreens, yes SS hi-temp o-rings are the same as the Ti tip ones as far as I can tell.
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