leveltree

never wanted to beat that one ;)
I recently managed to combust again and damn that smell is HORRIBLE :doh::zombie:
But in the tube with some ethanol removed it very well. Although the tube still smells a bit, will go away I think.

Stupid me managed to loose the inner o ring of my M in the process so it's good my deluxe kit from the 420 sale is one the way... (still overseas though :()

Since the beginning I only combustor when falsely assuming the cooldown click has happened so hopefully the magnets will make that easier to avoid.:hmm:

Also thanks for the tip with lowest tip setting, I think that might have caused some very dark avb in the past for me.

Have a nice day fellow Vapcapers!:science:
 

beyond6strings

Just another traveller in the Cannaverse
Two questions:

1 - what’s the consequence of vaping without the condenser?

2 - what’s the difference in vapor with conduction vs convection?



:2c:

I'll answer #1. A quick Google search will answer #2, and it's good information to know.

I've tried this with an '18 M and I didn't really like it. The consequence is a more open air-path and getting your stems or bodies dirty. I wouldn't really recommend it with wood bodies or stems.

I also came closer to combustion more often, just from the increased ability to draw harder. I didn't like the flavor. And my M is my second favorite vape now, behind only my Ti Omni XL.

If you have a titanium or M body or stem give it a shot. You may like it. You won't hurt anything, the stem or body becomes the condenser and you'll have to clean that just like you would the condenser.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I would think that the narrowness of the condenser might contribute to the reduced airflow. While most of the restriction is in the tip, a thicker pathway can only help. As an example notice how much more airflow one (at least) seems to get using a WT. One doesn't need to mouthpull through glass. Actually it may not even work.
 

DDave

Vape Wizard
Accessory Maker
1 - what’s the consequence of vaping without the condenser?
No consequence, but a huge benefit for me!
I've found my condenser only ensures I will get a mouthful of resin after a certain time. Always when I'm out and about.
When I use in one of my glass wands (no condenser, no carb), the inner surface area is far larger and the glass itself does not get hot. Meaning I may never get a mouthful of resin no matter how long I wait between cleanings. That's why I designed a wand that is all glass, no condenser or carb, that fits inside a dynastash and also fits a 14mm female water pipe.

I have a couple of carbless ti stems from @stardustsailor that I use without a condenser, and they hit like a truck. Massive hits. Since they are ti, I just clean them like I would a condenser.
I second the comment "hits like a truck"! :rockon:
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Two questions:

1 - what’s the consequence of vaping without the condenser?

2 - what’s the difference in vapor with conduction vs convection?



:2c:

I'll answer #1. A quick Google search will answer #2, and it's good information to know.

I've tried this with an '18 M and I didn't really like it. The consequence is a more open air-path and getting your stems or bodies dirty. I wouldn't really recommend it with wood bodies or stems.

I also came closer to combustion more often, just from the increased ability to draw harder. I didn't like the flavor. And my M is my second favorite vape now, behind only my Ti Omni XL.

If you have a titanium or M body or stem give it a shot. You may like it. You won't hurt anything, the stem or body becomes the condenser and you'll have to clean that just like you would the condenser.

It makes a big difference ,while not using a condenser ,if the carb is fully closed (or the stem is carbless ) or if the carb is kept fully open.

Just remember this simple rule :
A condenser -whether is an OMNI or a standard SS / Ti - needs a carb hole and
vice versa in order
-for both- to operate properly as a system.

Together they make a pretty sophisticated & compact system ,
that uses the Bernoulli principle in order to "suck" vapor from tip and at the same time mix it
with cool air. A condenser inside a carbless VapCap stem is of no use.
As also a VapCap without a condenser and a fully open carb hole ,
will mainly deliver pure atmospheric air or when driven by some strong lungs ,
it can aid to combust the load.


Carbless and condenser -less VapCaps deliver massive hits.

I mean some seriously massive hits.
Lots of extraction ,lots of vapor .

But ...
The vapor is rather hot & harsh if not water and/or ice filtered.
This thing as also that you can only draw with " mouth-pulls ",
meaning that you have to create lots of negative pressure at the guts
of the VapCap ,using the facial muscles ,the carbless & condenser-less VapCaps
might be the best suited vaporizer ever for ex-smokers ,like myself.



From the other hand ,the "normal" VapCaps that use a carb and a condenser,
are delivering super smooth vapor and are best suited for users that might have
sensitive respiratory system (especially sensitive throats ) and enjoy
less massive hits ,but of great smoothness.

Those are the differences,more or less .
No method is better than the other.
It's purely a matter of personal preference .


I have a couple of carbless ti stems from @stardustsailor that I use without a condenser, and they hit like a truck. Massive hits. Since they are ti, I just clean them like I would a condenser.

No consequence, but a huge benefit for me!
I've found my condenser only ensures I will get a mouthful of resin after a certain time. Always when I'm out and about.
When I use in one of my glass wands (no condenser, no carb), the inner surface area is far larger and the glass itself does not get hot. Meaning I may never get a mouthful of resin no matter how long I wait between cleanings. That's why I designed a wand that is all glass, no condenser or carb, that fits inside a dynastash and also fits a 14mm female water pipe.


I second the comment "hits like a truck"! :rockon:

Carbless VapCaps do hit like trucks or even trains .
But one has to be ready and be able to withstand such a "collision" .:brow:

Cheers.
:leaf:
 
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kushkush

happy camper....
I want to thank those who responded to my questions. :) Lots of good food for thought. :)

MD = Medical Doctor
md = micro-dose

I can say in all truth that my MD recommended that I md. :nod:


@Lady V - I would lub the wood with a carrier oil like Coconut or Olive oil to be safe (if that’s safe).



:2c:
 

stark1

Lonesome Planet
I kind of burn a bit too long a couple of time not hearing the click.. is it normal the tip get a bit colored or it like damaged ?
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The effect is a patina which shows the “scars” worthy of a Purple Heart. After some time
you, too, will wear it proudly.

Of course when it wears on you, you can always have a squeaky clean tip with a mere toothbrush/toothpaste.

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almost there

Well-Known Member
@Lady V I have a dedicated hanky I have been using to polish my wood vapes with oil/wax, it's been in use for a few months so it's pretty saturated. I run that thru each mid-section after polishing the outside. Works well enough to give the inside a nice hydrating shine without having to wipe anything away after. I give extra attention to the 2 ends
 
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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
No. I only condition the exterior surface. I rub a tiny bit on, rubbing it in, then I buff it with a soft cloth. I do this once a month or whenever I'm cleaning the condenser and tip.

I use either @phattpiggie s wood conditioner or @Ed's TnT Bomb Ass Butter.
Yeah I don't love the DynaWax so I have been on the lookout for something else to use on my wood. One of those is the likely suspect.
 

Lady V

Well-Known Member
Ι 've only used my stem once since I got it. For some reason I'm waiting to get the rest of the parts for it...
Only waxed it once on the outside.
Anyway
Olive oil
Really? If it's safe that would be cool. Got plenty!

No. I only condition the exterior surface.
Is that because of safety reasons?

I had a dedicated hanky
I need a dedicated box for all the dedicated stuff I've been gathering for my caps. One more item added to the vapcap dedicated list!:lol:

I don't love the DynaWax
Why is that?
 

ArthurJ

Well-Known Member
That's a "Hemper-Sherlock Bubble Rig" that I found on DankGeek.com.
It's a small glass piece, kind of fits in the palm of your hand, my 14mm wongs pair well and with the fat mouth piece I can use my omni's or M's.
It's very portable, also goes well with my grasshopper.

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hinglemccringleberry

Well-Known Member
Hey guys,
Quick question. Do you use dynawax on the inside of a wooden stem?
I do not. I use a tiny amount of coconut oil on the exterior of my cocobolo stem and that's it. I don't do the inside because cosmetically speaking it's not needed. I guess applying some to the inside might be a good idea for preservation but I've never done it.
 
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Squiby

Well-Known Member
Is that because of safety reasons?
No. Not at all. It never occurred to me to butter the inside. I polish the outside so that the wood is moisturized and gleams, just like I polish the visible parts of my wood furniture.

But as @mccringleberry says, protecting the inside with wax may further protect the wood. I think I may have to look for a dedicated hanky.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Yeah I don't love the DynaWax
Why is that?
My sample may have been a bad batch but I found the surface layer unusable and the rest less than "buttery". I might have had it for 6 months before I opened it, so that may be a factor. I just thought I would try something else. I am by no means knowledgeable about wood wax.
 
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asdf420

Well-Known Member
It's simply amazing -- I can load approx. .05 grams in a bowl (full setting), and since I'm such a lightweight microdoser, I can get 3-5 good lifts off one bowl, depending on the herb. If I'm particularly busy, that might last me a couple of days.
It's crazy how much harder it is to get a good effect with more tolerance. I can't keep it that low unless I vape once every other day. But I haven't limited my doses, just try to consume enough for a good effect.
 

Squiby

Well-Known Member
My sample may have been a bad batch but I found the surface layer unusable and the rest less than "buttery". I might have had it for 6 months before I opened it, so that may be a factor. I just thought I would try something else. I am by no means knowledgeable about wood wax.
Mine was the same. It developed a hard skin over it. Overall, I prefer @phattpiggie s concoction. What a good reason to get a PP stem. ;)
It's crazy how much harder it is to get a good effect with more tolerance. I can't keep it that low unless I vape once every other day. But I haven't limited my doses, just try to consume enough for a good effect.
I microdose. I try to stay around 0.015 gm per session. I have always been a lightweight. I'm sensitive, but I do have to work to keep my bud tolerance down. Try loading just a wee bit less than your last session, a wee bit less and you will find, hopefully that tolerance will drop while reaching the same effects with less.
 
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