Dynavap VapCap

[StringTheorista]

@beyond6strings, would you consider attaching your previous explanation of “sip and dip” to your signature? Or reexplaining? (Searched and couldn’t find it...)
I want to learn more, because I live in hope that I will order an IH from George this week.

 

[Dynalowrider]

Hackerman, think about this, egg shaped gives you more air flow past the hot fins to give you more vapor. Like "everyone" else says squeeze it or bend the digger in a little to hold it on, and get in the habit of pointing the digger at the airport, (what it really is), to know where the hole is. Even if you are using the Omni it's a good habit to get into, that way when you do use the airport you don't have to stop and think "Where's that hole". When you get ripped you don't always want to complicate you thoughts. I would like for my caps to be a little larger so I could take advantage of more air flow. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but think about how the VapCap System really works. The larger cap is an advantage. Doc

 

[beyond6strings]

@StringTheorista sure. Though the h/t belongs to @phattpiggie the inventor of the technique.

I use my '18 M tip on a PP 100mm stem for this. I heat to the click in the IH and take a couple of mouth pulls and then drop the tip back into the IH for a couple of seconds without waiting for the cool-down click, and then take another couple of mouth pulls and repeat that if I can until there's no vapor left. It's an intense experience, and I cache the .1g load in a couple of minutes. I've almost combusted once, but only almost and only once. As with all things when you go 'around' the click feel is very important. You'll start to get a feel for how long you can reheat without consequence-I usually heat to a count of 4 at least twice during this process, but most are only to a count of 2 or 3. It's dependent on the quality of the vapor and how deep into the 'session' I'm in as to how much I reheat.

And it's a fun intense experience. As PP says, going the normal route of heating and cooling to the click gets you high, doing Sip & Dip gets you stoned.

I'm not sure if anyone is doing this with a torch. If any of you are, please chime in. I wouldn't mind learning to do this while out in the wild.

 

[bizwaxzion]

@StringTheorista sure. Though the h/t belongs to @phattpiggie the inventor of the technique.

I use my '18 M tip on a PP 100mm stem for this. I heat to the click in the IH and take a couple of mouth pulls and then drop the tip back into the IH for a couple of seconds without waiting for the cool-down click, and then take another couple of mouth pulls and repeat that if I can until there's no vapor left. It's an intense experience, and I cache the .1g load in a couple of minutes. I've almost combusted once, but only almost and only once. As with all things when you go 'around' the click feel is very important. You'll start to get a feel for how long you can reheat without consequence-I usually heat to a count of 4 at least twice during this process, but most are only to a count of 2 or 3. It's dependent on the quality of the vapor and how deep into the 'session' I'm in as to how much I reheat.

And it's a fun intense experience. As PP says, going the normal route of heating and cooling to the click gets you high, doing Sip & Dip gets you stoned.

I'm not sure if anyone is doing this with a torch. If any of you are, please chime in. I wouldn't mind learning to do this while out in the wild.

I do it with a torch also - some of my caps just take too damn long to click. It's dangerous and risky behavior - haha! Seriously though, it's about familarity with the device and knowing what you can get away with. If it normally takes 6 seconds to heat back up once it's clicked, 4-5 seconds of heat is perfect. You can run some tests with the stopwatch on your smartphone and a pattern will emerge... I've also done it mid draw (water tool) with a single flame to keep vapor flowing.

 

[StringTheorista]

Thanks @beyond6strings and @phattpiggie! Think I get it now...

And thanks @bizwaxzion. Didn’t realize it’s not an IH-specific technique.

 

[kushkush]

That's another thing I forgot to consider... the hot tip! Even though I have only touched the tip of my single flame torch up until now... Does the omni get as warm as the M? (I like my high temps at the moment, as I 'm still transitioning from smoking)

One happy note...if you do burn yourself you’ll prolly only do that once.

That’s when I learned to handle the VC only in the middle (mid-section) when I’m actually using it.

 

[Lady V]

Yeah, stoned folk/hot metal. It's not crazy like some and it cools pretty quickly but you can burn yourself. Especially when you drop it in your lap in shorts...

Yep dropped it in my lap a couple of times... thank goodness I love my jeans... but summer's approaching here... There will be some burning happening...

@Lady V I wouldn't say boring, indeed there is a riot of characters on here as I'm sure you observed, as to why I prefer the regular size models over the plus sized ones it simply feels right, I like the compactness, the XL, however, is nice for home use, while the M I prefer for out n About. try both out you will eventually find the right fit for every occasion.

It was a long-a$$ post, but thanks for being kind. That was the idea at first, XL for home use and M for out and about (I'm a rather forgetful person... wouldn't wanna lose a 190 euro device... and it looks so pretty)

@Lady V thank you. And your post wasn't boring-if it was it wouldn't have elicited so much response. We love answering questions here.

In my limited experience you can get the same performance heat-wise out of a Ti tip. Especially when used natively. I also love the adjustable size bowl on the Ti tips-I keep all mine in the smallest setting.

I typically use my '18 M tip when I want a really hard-hitting effect near the end of the day and micro-dose smaller amounts during the day.

Thank you! You're very kind! I've been microdosing my whole life and the Ti tip makes more sense to me. I want the Omni condenser as I mouth-pull the vapour and I don't care for the carb hole.

 

[Lady V]

One happy note...if you do burn yourself you’ll prolly only do that once.

That’s when I learned to handle the VC only in the middle (mid-section) when I’m actually using it.

I keep burning myself with the hot lighter tip... I even managed to burn the side of my mouth with it...
What do you mean by mid-section? The middle of the body?

 

[beyond6strings]

Yep drop it in my lap a couple of times... thank goodness I love my jeans... but summer's approaching hear... There will be some burning happening...



It was a long-a$$ post, but thanks for being kind. That was the idea at first, XL for home use and M for out and about (I'm a rather forgetful person... wouldn't wanna lose a 190 euro device... and it looks so pretty)


Thank you! You're very kind! I've been microdosing my whole life ant the Ti tip makes more sense to me. I want the Omni condenser as I mouth-pull the vapour and I don't care for the carb hole.

You'll love the Omni. I went with a Cocobolo Omni as my first and then got a '17 M. Then I started getting vong bodies and stems for WPs and J Hooks and then I got an Omni XL with carbon fiber body. I learned I like the carb closed. All the time. And I learned that for native use I like a longer vapor path.

So I gifted my '17 M to a niece and the Cocobolo Omni to a dear friend and got an '18 M for me for out and about. I want indestructible and inexpensive when I'm traveling. And for me, the '18 M provides cooler, stronger vapor and a better native experience than my Cocobolo Omni did. And after next week it'll be the only one that fits in my Dynastash.

Welcome to the Dynaverse @Lady V

 

[cybrguy]

I want the Omni condenser as I mouth-pull the vapour and I don't care for the carb hole.

I hate to throw a spanner in the works, but if you don't wish to use the air hole or adjust airflow, you don't need the Omni condenser. You could save some cash and get a Uni and "permanently" block the air hole.
Or, you could even go condenserless if you wanted to try that. The only real need of the condenser is to take advantage of airflow adjustment with the air hole .
I don't yet have a condenserless VC but have been looking at SDS's...

 

[Lady V]

You'll love the Omni. I went with a Cocobolo Omni as my first and then got a '17 M. Then I started getting vong bodies and stems for WPs and J Hooks and then I got an Omni XL with carbon fiber body. I learned I like the carb closed. All the time. And I learned that for native use I like a longer vapor path.

So I gifted my '17 M to a niece and the Cocobolo Omni to a dear friend and got an '18 M for me for out and about. I want indestructible and inexpensive when I'm traveling. And for me, the '18 M provides cooler, stronger vapor and a better native experience than my Cocobolo Omni did. And after next week it'll be the only one that fits in my Dynastash.

Welcome to the Dynaverse @Lady V

I've read the "stronger vapour" claim in other reviews for the '18M. Is that true??? That sounds exciting!

 

[kushkush]

I keep burning myself with the hot lighter tip... I even managed to burn the side of my mouth with it...
What do you mean by mid-section? The middle of the body?

Yes...I just avoid touching either end when I’m using (heating) it, because I don’t even want to think about which end is hot and which is not. (I’m a poet)

 

[pxl_jockey]

...I've been microdosing my whole life... QUOTE]

Wow, did your parents teach you? It seems like a pretty enlightened concept for a toddler to grasp. I had my hands full learning to use the toilet... My mama said I was clever!

No wild excessive years? Always with the microdosing, eh?

Okay, sorry I am just messing with ya. But if you've been lurking awhile, it should come as no surprise. It's what I do, my contribution to the thread. Welcome to the nuthouse! I mean, Dynaverse!

@cybrguy raises a good point, you don't need an Omni. But you want one... You need one...

 

[Lady V]

I hate to throw a spanner in the works, but if you don't wish to use the airhole or adjust airflow, you don't need the Omni condenser. You could save some cash and get a Uni and "permanently" block the air hole.
Or, you could even go condenserless if you wanted to try that. The only real need of the condenser is to take advantage of airflow adjustment.
I don't yet have a condenserless VC but have been looking at SDS's...

I have hacked my '17M so I won't have to use the air hole (moved the O-ring). I've also been drooling over @phattpiggie 's @stardustsailor 's and @Winegums 's custom stems. I'm a bit confused though as for how to get my hands on them...
I guess the Omnivap "obsession" is mostly me being fancy schmancy and the fact that the M hack can be a pain in the neck

I was wondering, how do you clean a condenserless wooden stem?

 

[KidFated.]

how do you clean a condenserless wooden stem?

Soak a q tip in iso or everclear, dab it on something to get the excess out, and swab the inside of the stem, follow it with a q tip with some water on it and then a dry q tip to dry.

 

[Lady V]

@pxl_jockey
You made me laugh out loud... "My whole life" is an absolutely ridiculous statement... I meant since I 've been 18 years old (but you got that already, it was just too good of an opportunity not to mess with me)

Discipline comes easily to me, so no, no wild years (unfortunately... but maybe there's time!) One of the reasons I fell in love with the vapcap concept was the fact that you can microdose. Even with the M, I never fill it to capacity. The most I 'd use would be half a bowl.

 

[nickdanger]

I was wondering, how do you clean a condenserless wooden stem?

Personally, I wouldn't use a wooden stem without a condenser, but the ti stems from @stardustsailor work perfect without one. I would be afraid it would be impossible to clean all the reclaim out.

 

[KidFated.]

Lots of vaporizers use wooden stems and parts with no condenser tube inside of them, so it is natural for me. Why add more SS to the airpath if it’s not needed is my opinion. I like wood.

 

[Lady V]

Yes...I just avoid touching either end when I’m using (heating) it, because I don’t even want to think about which end is hot and which is not. (I’m a poet)

Hahahaha! Well the Vapcap is a poetic device, it should attract poets!

 

[Lady V]

Personally, I wouldn't use a wooden stem without a condenser, but the ti stems from @stardustsailor work perfect without one. I would be afraid it would be impossible to clean all the reclaim out.

Yeah! That's what worries me... that by trying to clean them I would end up ruining them

 

[StringTheorista]

I have hacked my '17M so I won't have to use the air hole (moved the O-ring). I've also been drooling over @phattpiggie 's @stardustsailor 's and @Winegums 's custom stems. I'm a bit confused though as for how to get my hands on them...
I guess the Omnivap "obsession" is mostly me being fancy schmancy and the fact that the M hack can be a pain in the neck

Y’know, I hacked my 17m, but I haven’t hacked my 18M and it’s becoming my favorite. My lungs are touchy, so several smaller hits (mouth to lung) seem better for me than fewer large ones. The steel M tip allows one more small hit before reheating than the ti tip does. The increased airflow over the 17M is noticeable, I won’t bother modding it.

EDIT: Oops, I think I misunderstood you. I am referring to filing indentations in the cap to increase airflow. Different hack than you meant. Never mind!

 

[cybrguy]

I like wood too, but I'm with @nickdanger. When I go with a condenserless stem (when, not if) I will go with metal just for ease of cleaning. It may be POSSIBLE to keep a wood condenserless stem clean, but it would be more work than I want to do, and I also like metal stems so no sweat.

 

[Lady V]

Y’know, I hacked my 17m, but I haven’t hacked my 18M and it’s becoming my favorite. My lungs are touchy, so several smaller hits (mouth to lung) seem better for me than fewer large ones. The steel M tip allows one more small hit before reheating than the ti tip does. The increased airflow over the 17M is noticeable, I won’t bother modding it.

Do you manually restrict the carb on the '18M?
I do mouth-pulls (if that's what you mean by mouth to lung) but it doesn't feel as enjoyable to me with the carb open. The hack feels even better to me for mouth-pulls... I guess I'm still used to the smoking experience...

 

[Winegums]

Going condenserless is okay as long as you accept that it's going to be a mess inside. I've done it before but it made no noticeable difference to the vapour. DO NOT do this with a bare wood stem or you will permanently soak condensates into the wood which will never come out. Metal lined stems only!

I've also been drooling over @phattpiggie 's @stardustsailor 's and @Winegums 's custom stems. I'm a bit confused though as for how to get my hands on them...

It's a bit different for each of us, Piggie has a reservation list that he starts every few months that you need to get on in order to get a stem. Occasionally he has a few production pieces that are released to a UK retailer.

I take custom orders through PM here on FC or Etsy. I typically have zero lead time and can start immediately once a design is settled on.

SDS, sells items through custom order and the classifieds on FC.

 

[Lady V]

Going condenserless is okay as long as you accept that it's going to be a mess inside. I've done it before but it made no noticeable difference to the vapour. DO NOT do this with a bare wood stem or you will permanently soak condensates into the wood which will never come out. Metal lined stems only!


It's a bit different for each of us, Piggie has a reservation list that he starts every few months that you need to get on in order to get a stem. Occasionally he has a few production pieces that are released to a UK retailer.

I take custom orders through PM here on FC or Etsy. I typically have zero lead time and can start immediately once a design is settled on.

SDS, sells items through custom order and the classifieds on FC.

Thank you!!! You saved me a lot of back and forth in this thread... You will be hearing from me soon! Love your work!