You might want to check Troy's review on 420vapezone before you blow your money.
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
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blackstone
Well-Known Member
I asked the makers about any reason for concern regarding the temperature fuse on the Crafty+, if they had found any cause for premature or forced failure, or had managed to keep the same value temperature fuse and this is how they responded:
Good to hear that.
So while they were, as usual, tight lipped about the specifics, they almost confirmed what fuckcombustion.com had come up with themselves from use and user reports.
That maybe 20% extra battery models circa. 2017 had improved the condition.
I also think the 2017 models were a little faster to heat than early Crafty, but always slower than Mighty.
When I tried it my Crafty+ was slightly faster than a plugged in Mighty.
I previously tried to get more info about this improved housing material, but they were likely busy that time and i didn't get a reply to that one, I think I'll ask again as I'm interested to know if it will ever crack like the older stuff or not. Both on this one and a possible Mighty+ model.
Just will be be nice if they won't ever crack and can tolerate some opening and closing for a battery change or two!
Even if it still cracks after some years ill probably stick with these vapes! They almost pay for themselves at that stage.
Good to hear that.
So while they were, as usual, tight lipped about the specifics, they almost confirmed what fuckcombustion.com had come up with themselves from use and user reports.
That maybe 20% extra battery models circa. 2017 had improved the condition.
I also think the 2017 models were a little faster to heat than early Crafty, but always slower than Mighty.
When I tried it my Crafty+ was slightly faster than a plugged in Mighty.
I previously tried to get more info about this improved housing material, but they were likely busy that time and i didn't get a reply to that one, I think I'll ask again as I'm interested to know if it will ever crack like the older stuff or not. Both on this one and a possible Mighty+ model.
Just will be be nice if they won't ever crack and can tolerate some opening and closing for a battery change or two!
Even if it still cracks after some years ill probably stick with these vapes! They almost pay for themselves at that stage.
Polarbearboy
Tokin' Away Since 1968
Regarding the French stainless steel cooling unit: It apparently has been significantly upgraded since Troy reviewed it. When I looked at the innards on the company's website, it is completely different from what we'd seen before. And they've obviously recast the piece and just as obviously improved all the externals like refining the finning...finally. Actually quite interesting all they've done since the first iteration. I'm impressed with the desire for high technical quality, functional effectiveness, and beauty...in the pics this is really lovely, at least to my eyes.
https://www.french-touch-vaporizer....-crafty-stainless-steel-cooling-unit-ftv.html
I just did my taxes. I'm getting a decent refund. This is my splurge...or one of them. I'll post when I get it and have used it.
https://www.french-touch-vaporizer....-crafty-stainless-steel-cooling-unit-ftv.html
I just did my taxes. I'm getting a decent refund. This is my splurge...or one of them. I'll post when I get it and have used it.
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So their answer does not say anything about the fuse...oh well...
Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
I’ve had my Crafty since May ‘16 (it was a replacement for the OG) which means it is before they updated the battery.
Here is a quick update on how it is faring 3 1/2 years in:
I only use dry herbs, but I always put a concentrate pad on top of the herbs so that I don’t need to clean as often. Without it, I probably wouldn’t use nearly as much because the CU gets gunked up pretty fast. (Although now that I have an ultrasonic cleaner, I may revisit as the CU cleans so easily with the UC).
I only have about 62 hours on it (I rotate through my vapes quite a bit.)
I tend to get 3-4 sessions per battery charge (mostly 4) with sessions running about 7 1/2 to 9 minutes each.
With a fully charged battery, the heat up to 370F takes about 2:35.
By the fourth session, the heat up time is up to a miserable 4:30ish.
It takes under 3 hours to recharge.
I never go back to an already vaped oven (once I turn it off once, the herb is spent - cannot go back for seconds as taste is terrible by then and basically gets cooked on cool-down)
Actually, on that note, I start at 370F and hit until no more vapor and then boost to 410F. I can usually only get another hit or two at the high temp - but it is basically spent at the lower temp unless I really overpack it.
I guess I am posting this because even with the subpar battery life, heat-up time, and poor efficiency I still use my Crafty several times a week.
Why?
Because I always feel the effects - it has yet to let me down - it is one of my favorite and consistent vape signatures out there (for me).
Once it dies, I will definitely upgrade to the plus (or possibly Mighty).
But for now, it is an old workhorse that always has my back, as long as I am willing to wait a few minutes.
Here is a quick update on how it is faring 3 1/2 years in:
I only use dry herbs, but I always put a concentrate pad on top of the herbs so that I don’t need to clean as often. Without it, I probably wouldn’t use nearly as much because the CU gets gunked up pretty fast. (Although now that I have an ultrasonic cleaner, I may revisit as the CU cleans so easily with the UC).
I only have about 62 hours on it (I rotate through my vapes quite a bit.)
I tend to get 3-4 sessions per battery charge (mostly 4) with sessions running about 7 1/2 to 9 minutes each.
With a fully charged battery, the heat up to 370F takes about 2:35.
By the fourth session, the heat up time is up to a miserable 4:30ish.
It takes under 3 hours to recharge.
I never go back to an already vaped oven (once I turn it off once, the herb is spent - cannot go back for seconds as taste is terrible by then and basically gets cooked on cool-down)
Actually, on that note, I start at 370F and hit until no more vapor and then boost to 410F. I can usually only get another hit or two at the high temp - but it is basically spent at the lower temp unless I really overpack it.
I guess I am posting this because even with the subpar battery life, heat-up time, and poor efficiency I still use my Crafty several times a week.
Why?
Because I always feel the effects - it has yet to let me down - it is one of my favorite and consistent vape signatures out there (for me).
Once it dies, I will definitely upgrade to the plus (or possibly Mighty).
But for now, it is an old workhorse that always has my back, as long as I am willing to wait a few minutes.
Vape_Or_Die420
Well-Known Member
Vape Critic said on a live stream today that the Crafty+ beats the TinyMight. Now i feel like i made the right decision. I trust bud's opinion.
Mee too...until the Ghost fanboy days and then I found out he still combusts
I still watch the reviews, I just don't take too much notice of his flavor comments, same goes for Troy at 420Vapezone, another combustor, great videos but flavor advice...mmh
Polarbearboy
Tokin' Away Since 1968
Mee too...until the Ghost fanboy days and then I found out he still combusts
I still watch the reviews, I just don't take too much notice of his flavor comments, same goes for Troy at 420Vapezone, another combustor, great videos but flavor advice...mmh
I too was a fan of Bud, watched most of his review, and became a member of vapecritic. But his involvement with Ghost seriously undermined his credibility and his reputation as an unbiased reviewer trying to help those of us getting into vaping. I was on the waiting list for Ghost...and then all the problems started. I haven't been back to Bud's site since, not even once.
BigC’sTowing
Well-Known Member
You can still use him as a resource, just remember where he’s coming from. If you’ve got a couple of vapes you can cobble together enough information from multiple sites to make an informed decision.
Vape_Or_Die420
Well-Known Member
It was yesterday on the G43 live streamwhen?
My crafty has hibernated since I got TM
but it is close by
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
Got my Crafty + yesterday after owning a few Mighty’s throughout the years and really enjoying them. Question , as I was doing my 2nd session with it I had noticed towards the end the solid Blue light had went on , is this normal and what does this mean ? as I couldn’t find any info on it in the manual besides meaning it is fully charged when on the charger .
Crafty Vaper
Ain't easy being green
Got my Crafty + yesterday after owning a few Mighty’s throughout the years and really enjoying them. Question , as I was doing my 2nd session with it I had noticed towards the end the solid Blue light had went on , is this normal and what does this mean ? as I couldn’t find any info on it in the manual besides meaning it is fully charged when on the charger .
A blinking blue/red light signaled overheating on the original Crafty. Never had this problem with the Crafty+. Maybe you should do a hard reset. When your unit is on press the power button and hold it for 10 seconds. The Crafty will vibrate and show some lights. It helps sometimes. Vape on!
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Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
I’ll give it a try , weird being it’s brand spanking new. It was just a solid blue light and I only double tapped the button once during the session . Ty
* Also if anyone is familiar with the app , is it only the starting temp we can change and boost ( double click or triple click ? ) I ramped yo my starting temp a bit via the app but I am not sure if it saves when I am out of the app .
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Michel
Well-Known Member
Got my Crafty + yesterday after owning a few Mighty’s throughout the years and really enjoying them. Question , as I was doing my 2nd session with it I had noticed towards the end the solid Blue light had went on , is this normal and what does this mean ? as I couldn’t find any info on it in the manual besides meaning it is fully charged when on the charger .
The blue light when turning the Crafty off is the battery indicator.
edit: i overread you weren’t turning it off!
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Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
maybe it went into auto shutoff and showed the blue light as a feature to tell me the battery life ?
vapviking
Old & In the Way
This is in on the website (the manual);
Explanations of the battery display
following switch off:
Steady blue light: the battery is be-
tween 64 and 100% charged.
Blue, slow-flashing: the battery is
between 32 and 63% charged.
Blue, rapidly flashing: the battery is
between 1 and 31% charged.
Blue flashing: the battery is com-
pletely discharged.
So, yes, maybe at time-out it tells you state of charge?
Oh, yeah, then there's this;
6.8 Automatic Switching Off
i To conserve battery capacity, the
Vaporizer will turn off automati-
cally two minutes after the last key
press or usage. The shutdown is
confirmed by a vibration and dis-
play of the charge level.
i The automatic switch off can
be reset to two minutes by brief-
ly pressing the ON/OFF switch
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
Oh nice ty for easing my mind for some reason I couldn’t find that explanation pulling up the manual but maybe I read past it . Now about the temp changing via app do you know if it stays for the next time you start the crafty + up ?
Crafty Vaper
Ain't easy being green
Yes it will save your temperature you have typed in the app until you do a hard reset or reset via the app.
Skinnyarbuckle
Well-Known Member
I have the flashing red/yellow green amber light. Sounds like time for a thermal fuse, I have 47 hours and 35 minutes on this unit , probably two years old. Sending out a PM to take care of this to JCat, I’m thinking he can fix me up. I would like to keep this unit going as it has been one of my favorites. I’m guessing battery pack upgrade simple swap out Bibbity Bop I’m back in business. I have used this mainly with the micro dosing capsules and it has been perfect for that.
improved_slagzord
Member
So, I am in a conundrum, the body of my Crafty is just starting to fall apart from the joint at the lip on the rounded side of the unit. I am afraid to clean it, use it, whatever, so it is sitting in a sock in a drawer collecting dust for a little while now. Has anyone had experience of submitting an RMA when out of warranty with a Crafty for something like this? I'm worried about spending a frustrating amount of time and money on the damned thing only to be sent it back with a shrug or have to fight a war to get it back at all. I just don't know S&B handles it!
Should I go send it back to them or just declare it a lost cause?
Should I go send it back to them or just declare it a lost cause?
Vape_Or_Die420
Well-Known Member
Likely they will just offer you to trade it in for a new one. I think you can still get $100 off for a new one. You can also upgrade to a Mighty at a discount.
improved_slagzord
Member
Vape_Or_Die420
Well-Known Member
Also, you would probably get upgraded to the Crafty+ if they still do the trade in deal.That is very good to know! Thanks