Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

[lumholtz]

Yesterday I couldn't get the unit to turn on at all, nor take charge. Then I gave the unit a shake to see if anything was loose inside, and to my surprise the unit started working again. A loose temperature sensor perhaps? Now I'm wondering if this is all that was wrong with the last unit. Anyway, can only see how long it keeps working for, and if/when it funks out next time I will def be trying for an upgrade to a mighty

 

[KingslandingVape]

Crafty is for solo, light use. I didnt regret one sec. If they make Crafty 2 with replaceble battery that will be perfect. I bought battery pack and now I can be long away from home. It is really bad when you are in the woods and it dies.

 

[psychonaut]

@KingslandingVape one can only dream =/ I love my crafty on the go!

 

[biohacker]

I'm so damn curious about this new 20% stronger battery @psychonaut that i'm thinking I may need to test another Crafty out. Wonder what heat ups would be like on the 2nd and 3rd sessions? The slow heat up was something that bothered me due to the "extra" conduction with the herb stewing longer. But that small size sure was convenient at times!

 

[Flower of empathy]

The slow heat up was something that bothered me due to the "extra" conduction with the herb stewing longer

that's where the capsules shine - insert when heated up, imo the caps work best filled tight compressed but not tamped

 

[Jill NYC]

that's where the capsules shine - insert when heated up, imo the caps work best filled tight compressed but not tamped

So you heat up the Crafty before inserting the capsule?

 

[biohacker]

So you heat up the Crafty before inserting the capsule?

Exactly!

 

[SirCrackKillaH]

What's good! crafty and mighty cool beans yo, those dosing capsules though, them are righteous. Any of you guys ever clean these things? I've been using the same like 8 or 9 for months now and they haven't gotten sticky or anything. These things are like icky-sticky free. Curious..

 

[Jill NYC]

Question:
I use my Crafty mostly at home, exclusively with flowers. Lately, (per many FCrs suggestions, thanks!) I put the concentration pad on top of the flowers which has brought the potency level up 10 fold. It has made me very happy!
My question is, do I need to invest in the dosing capsules? Does it bring on different effects that I don’t already get standard or with the concentration pad?
I get the convenience factor of them, but for me, unless it changes taste and/or potency, buying a pack of 40 of these things will probably just end up in my already cluttered vape-junk drawer.

 

[SirCrackKillaH]

Question:
I use my Crafty mostly at home, exclusively with flowers. Lately, (per many FCrs suggestions, thanks!) I put the concentration pad on top of the flowers which has brought the potency level up 10 fold. It has made me very happy!
My question is, do I need to invest in the dosing capsules? Does it bring on different effects that I don’t already get standard or with the concentration pad?
I get the convenience factor of them, but for me, unless it changes taste and/or potency, buying a pack of 40 of these things will probably just end up in my already cluttered vape-junk drawer.

Biggest thing with those dosing capsules is convienence really. They enable you to prefill like 40 capsules in one shot if you so desire. It's a little time consuming but man oh man, having, that many ready is awesome, having a little carrying cylinder on deck is damned convienent too yo. No fumbling with the filling tool or trying to place concentrates or flower while out and about.

That s is like baratatatatata, reload, ba bam, dosing capsule with the quickness. Yeah, I love them.

On the flower end, it really enables you to dial in exactly how much bud you wanna use per session. I'll scale out .05-.07s for quick sessions and then max them out for full. It makes cleaning occur less too I've found. There is no difference really as far as potency goes. Just makes loading and unloading easier and faster.
The one thing I do have to point out is that if you exclusively use them, there is potential build up that occurs along the upper air intake of the bowl portion. This over time limits the airflow a bit to the point where more of a temperature drop occurs when taking pulls.
The older one I had would drop by 25-30 degrees sometimes when taking a pull. I sent it in for servicing about three weeks ago.
Just be mindful of any accumulation under that lip. I use a small brush to get under the mighty lip. The Crafty I kinda let go over time and didn't realize this being the cause till it was too late. The center bowl portion and even the bottom for the most part remained pristine, but that intake right up there, that darkens with accumulation over time. I missed that.

 

[Flower of empathy]

buying a pack of 40 of these things will probably just end up in my already cluttered vape-junk drawer

U can only get 4 caps with the capsule caddy or 8 caps with the magazine, no need to get 40 they last a long time - i would go for the concentrate version with liquid pads to have half pack spacers. Can't tell much difference between cap and no cap besides a tiny bit more resistance.

 

[SirCrackKillaH]

U can only get 4 caps with the capsule caddy or 8 caps with the magazine, no need to get 40 they last a long time - i would go for the concentrate version with liquid pads to have half pack spacers. Can't tell much difference between cap and no cap besides a tiny bit more resistance.

I'd love to know what these things are made of. If it's a non-stick steel or what. I really have never cleaned mine in months. They simply don't get that stickyness the same way other stuff does.

 

[Mr. Me2]

Question:
I use my Crafty mostly at home, exclusively with flowers. Lately, (per many FCrs suggestions, thanks!) I put the concentration pad on top of the flowers which has brought the potency level up 10 fold. It has made me very happy!
My question is, do I need to invest in the dosing capsules? Does it bring on different effects that I don’t already get standard or with the concentration pad?
I get the convenience factor of them, but for me, unless it changes taste and/or potency, buying a pack of 40 of these things will probably just end up in my already cluttered vape-junk drawer.

Have you ever tried using a screen instead of the pad?

I found that I preferred the screen. Just cut out a wedge so the screen looks like pac man. Pull the 2 edges together to make a cone, and push the point into your material.

I find it works great, has better air flow and is much easier to keep clean than the pad.

 

[SirCrackKillaH]

Have you ever tried using a screen instead of the pad?

I found that I preferred the screen. Just cut out a wedge so the screen looks like pac man. Pull the 2 edges together to make a cone, and push the point into your material.

I find it works great, has better air flow and is much easier to keep clean than the pad.

I never thought about that. That'd save me actually a good chunk of change over using the pads. That's really cool man.

 

[biohacker]

I'd love to know what these things are made of. If it's a non-stick steel or what.

Aluminum!

I personally had way better experiences using the pad or a screen (dome screen mod) compared to the capsules. Just thicker/denser vapour.

 

[Flower of empathy]

i would also say some kind of aluminium alloy
Yes, the capsules eat up some space/suface - the normal bowl liquid pad is 15mm diameter, the capsule pad 13mm. That decreases capacity and has 24% less surface (not accounting the larger diameter at the capsule top here, but they thought something by leaving a bit of airspace between chamber walls and bottom capsule walls...) which explains the bit less dense clouds, but imo still hard to distinguish with the same amount of load in a blind test session...

 

[lumholtz]

I'd love to know what these things are made of. If it's a non-stick steel or what. I really have never cleaned mine in months. They simply don't get that stickyness the same way other stuff does.

Really? I have to clean mine regularly, guess it depends on the quality of the material you vape

 

[JCat]

Really? I have to clean mine regularly, guess it depends on the quality of the material you vape

Same here ... they quickly get sticky (golden resin) especially on the tops ... they start sticking everywhere! ... soak in 99% ISO for a short time, rinse, good to go!

 

[Modicum]

Hi Mr.Me2 I'm thinking of getting a Mighty,I have a 12mo. Crafty with 5 hrs on it and want to gift it a friend. What happens to the warranty and the phone app, don't know the protocol . Can you or anyone else advise me? Thank you ahead of time.

 

[Mr. Me2]

I looked at the Crafty instructions and found this:

If another CRAFTY Vaporizer is to be controlled by the same smartphone, the previous connection is to be dis- connected by use of the “Connect to other CRAFTY“ button and the serial number of the other CRAFTY Vapor- izer entered.

Not exactly on point, but leads me to believe you can connect to a different phone after it downloads the app.


If you haven't made a RMA, and if your Crafty serial number is readable, I expect your friend won't have a problem. Can't promise, though...

 

[vapviking]

@Modicum ,
S&B doesn't care about chain of ownership, only age of the device, so it should be fine - warranty wise- to give it away, especally if you still have an invoice or other proof of purchase to provide if it does need a warranty related service.

And @Mr. Me2 is correct, installing app on anotherr phone and then connecting to Crafty is not a problem. Use the serial number that's on bottom of Crafty or on the box.

 

[Modicum]

Guy's thanks for the input. A gentleman at a local smoke shop thinks the warranty would be voided.He says my friend could get his own app & reregister the Crafty
as his own and the setup would work fine but in case of a problem, S&B would only recognize the original owner for warranty claims and that the serial number of the unit being reregistered voids the original agreement. I can't see any way around this, can you?

 

[ktmstick]

Guy's thanks for the input. A gentleman at a local smoke shop thinks the warranty would be voided.He says my friend could get his own app & reregister the Crafty
as his own and the setup would work fine but in case of a problem, S&B would only recognize the original owner for warranty claims and that the serial number of the unit being reregistered voids the original agreement. I can't see any way around this, can you?

I warranted a Crafty I bought 2nd hand off ebay. The vibrate failed and they sent me a new one. As long as you have a receipt for proof of date of purchase they will cover you. Re registering the Crafty on another phone has nothing to do with the warranty. I have lent my Crafty to multiple people that have set it up on their phone.

 

[Poostuff]

I’ve got the updated version with 5 hours use so far & I’ve been getting 36 minutes out of the battery.
That would be about 29 minutes without the extra 20% I guess.

I run it on 210c with vibration on, auto shutoff at 120 seconds & the LEDs on the lowest setting.
Sessions last around 5 - 6 minutes typically but if I use a capsule it’s over in a couple of draws.
I imagine if I lower my preferred temperature & turn the LEDs completely off & it’d last longer.

The Crafty performs pretty well & with a magazine full of capsules convenient portability is not just a concept anymore.
The capsules definitely do not put out as much vapor as overpacking the chamber does but they do work & with the ease of cleaning & convenience I’ll use them quite a bit.
It’s just a shame the Crafty is let down by the short battery life, what a winner it would be with a replaceable battery.

I see some people upgrading to a Mighty but I don’t feel a Mighty is an upgrade except for the price. Sure it costs more but it does exactly the same thing as the Crafty does just for longer & with less options.
It feels cheaper than the Crafty & the screen looks a bit crappy for the price.
On saying that if battery life was was a primary concern I’d buy the Mighty instead.

 

[biohacker]

The capsules definitely do not put out as much vapor as overpacking the chamber does

Ah yes, this was my experience also! I guess I just got used to the massive plumes of vapour when overpacking that bowl directly compared to a full capsule that gave me mostly wispy vapour that didn't last very long.

I see some people upgrading to a Mighty but I don’t feel a Mighty is an upgrade except for the price. Sure it costs more but it does exactly the same thing as the Crafty does just for longer & with less options.

I wouldn't say it does exactly the same as the Crafty. The Mighty can heat up faster, maintain its temp better, heat up time isn't affected by the battery life (Crafty heatup on 2nd session is slower, and 3rd even worse). The Cooling unit is bigger and is slightly better at cooling IMO. The Mighty doesn't get super hot in my hand like the crafty nor give overheating warnings.

I'd say the opposite in that the only benefit of the crafty over the mighty is its size.