Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

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vapeppau

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I managed to spend quality time with the craft this weekend.

took it to the top of a waterfall with some mates. I had the crafty fully charged and packed, and i also took the loading tool fully loaded with flower; the holding tool holds a suprising amount of herb! Having the crafty and the loading tool, meant that I only had 2 platic pieces that i could comfortably carry around in my pockets carefree. the loading tool really shines here: it allows for really fast packing on the go, without worrying about spillage or anything. I have the fresh flower on top and i can get ABV on the bottom. its also so easy to clean the crafty on the move, empty the bowl with the stirring tool and can easily blow out the remaining.

only one mate tokes, and he found the crafty so easy to use. the app is a sure fire crowd pleaser and got everyone talking

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I also smuggled the crafty into a movie theater! worked very well and watching interstellar baked was amazing!

I think over this weekend the crafty really came through and I can say that it comfortably justifies the extremely high price. the ease of use, cleaning, on the go loading and most improtantly its ability to medicate so fast makes it a totally complete portable!
 
Sasquatch_Jr

Sasquatch_Jr

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Picked up a Crafty this weekend. Great little vape and a great purchase.

My biggest fear with this device was depending on Bluetooth LE and an app that's bound to break at some point with a major iOS upgrade (sounds like on Android this is already the case). I poked at my Crafty with Light Blue, a Mac app for Bluetooth Low Energy device developers and decompiled the Android APK to see variable names for the various UUIDs and figure out what I was looking at so we can document how the app works on the off chance S&B stop supporting it. This also gets users access to even more data about the battery, temperatures and errors than the password protected admin screen shows.

In theory this information can be used to create third party apps. Want programmable temperature curves instead of just 2 set points? Want to be able to dial in a saved temperature ramp for an individual strain? Totally doable with a third party app though in both cases you would need to be in Bluetooth range of your phone or computer.

The one thing to watch is it seems the Crafty stops advertising its Bluetooth LE services while it's being used by the app or Light Blue. If you have trouble getting the app to find your Crafty after playing in Light Blue just toggle the Bluetooth on your Mac off then back on. This seems to force it to disconnect and start advertising again. You may need to turn off bluetooth on your phone to get the device to show up in Light Blue as well.

Send data back to your Crafty at your own risk! I have yet to try it.

Let me know if I got anything wrong and I can update this document.

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# Temperature and Battery Control (00000001-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)

- Current Temperature (00000011-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Current temperature in ºC * 10 (ie 1822 is 182.2ºC)

- Target Temperature (00000021-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer (Read Write)
- Set temperature in ºC * 10 (ie 1822 is 182.2ºC)

- Booster Temperature (00000031-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer (Read Write)
- Number of ºC * 10 to boost set temp (ie 150 is 15.0ºC)

- Battery Capacity (00000041-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Percent of battery remaining (ie 76 is 76% battery remaining)

- LED Brightness (00000051-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer (Read Write)
- Min 0 (off) Max 100


# Device Info (00000002-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)

- Usage Time (00000012-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Unit unknown. Mine returns 20 while app says I have 3 hours of usage.

- Model (00000022-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- UTF8 String
- Returns "Crafty"

- Firmware (00000032-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453")
- UTF8 String
- Mine returns "V02.04"

- Bluetooth (00000042-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Binary Data. Likely a UUID
- Meaning unknown. Very likely the UUID for the Crafty's bluetooth chip

- Serial Number (00000052-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- UTF8 String
- Unit serial number in form "CY00____00"


# Diagnostics (00000003-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453) (Note: this is where things get interesting. :)

- Operating Time (00000013-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Appears to be the same as Device Info's Usage Time

- Power on Time (00000023-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Number of hours unit has been used.

- Hardware (00000033-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Binary Data (likely a UUID)
- Very likely a unique id for the Device

- PCB Version (00000043-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- UTF8 String?
- Not sure what this is. Mine is just a bunch of question marks.

- Serial Number Hardware (00000053-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- UTF8 String
- Use unknown. Possibly the serial number for the logic board?

- Accu Status Register (00000063-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Unknown type (mine says 0)
- Unknown use

- Accu Status Register 2 (00000073-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Unknown type (mine says 0)
- Unknown use

- System Status Register (00000083-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer?
- Most likely a failure code used to diagnose misbehaving units

- Project Status (00000093-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Not sure what this means. Mine says 1024

- Charger Status (000000A3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Some sort of status code about charging. Returns 0 wile on battery, 2 while charging. I bet the 2 is the charge level or something.

- Voltage Accu (000000B3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Voltage of something. Mine is 3792 or 3791

- Voltage Mains (000000C3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Voltage of something. Stays in the 340s for me

- Voltage Heating (000000D3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Voltage of the heating element? Seems to be the same as Voltage Accu

- Current Accu (000000E3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Unknown. Stays around 60,000. Drops to 0 when turned off.

- Temperature PT1000 (000000F3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Likely the raw data coming off a PT1000 thermometer somewhere in the Crafty. Returns in high 1900s while heated to default 180ºC setpoint

- Temperature PT1000 Controlled (00000103-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Something else coming off a PT1000 thermometer. Returns 1833 while at 180ºC

- Temperature NTC (00000113-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Something coming off an NTC Thermistor.

- Temperature NTC Min (00000123-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Minimum value for the NTC Thermistor. Mine returns 194

- Temperature Max NTC (00000133-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Maximum value for the NTC Thermistor. Mine returns 607

- Full Charge Capacity (00000143-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Actual mAh for battery on a full charge

- Remain Charge Capacity (00000153-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- mAh remaining on battery

- Discharge Cycles (00000163-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Number of times the batter has been drained

- Charge Cycles (00000173-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Number of times the battery has been charged

- Design Capacity Accu (00000183-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- mAh battery had when new (reports 2650 for me).

- Device Field (00000193-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- UTF8 String?
- Returns a bunch of question marks for me

- Unknown. Not defined in Android App (00000193-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Unknown (Write Only)
- No idea whit this is

- Security Code (000001B3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Unknown (Write Only)
- Was hoping this would give up the code for the advanced settings thing but it's write only. I suppose this doc makes that screen a bit less important though. ;)

- Project Status Register 2 (000001C3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer (Read Write)
- Mine says 2. Not sure what this means.

- Reset to Default Values (000001D3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Unknown (Write Only)
- Obviously there is some sort of magic code you can send here to reset things. No idea what it could be.


# Error Handling (00000004-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)

- Device Error (00000014-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Integer
- Probably a diagnostic code for the service center. Mine says 0.
 
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Jealousy

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Sasquatch_Jr said:
- Reset to Default Values (000001D3-4C45-4B43-4942-265A524F5453)
- Unknown (Write Only)
- Obviously there is some sort of magic code you can send here to reset things. No idea what it could be.
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Don't know if it's the same reset- system, but if you press the button for 10 seconds, it returns to default settings according to the manual.

Nice job by the way ! Very impressive, it would be so cool and great to see modified apps for the Crafty !
 
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Sasquatch_Jr

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Osn Dosn said:
I'd rather see a Lollipop BLE solution.. Poor Nexus keeps begging all day :/
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This should not be considered a replacement for the app. I for one am typically not in a state be to able to convert integers into binary to send to the device while I'm using it. ;)

Instead this is the first step towards third party apps that can extend the functionality of the Crafty or work on Android 5, iOS 9 or whatever before S&B have a chance to fix their app. This also gets you access to even more diagnostics and low level information than the password protected "diagnostic panel" (tap 5 times on the serial number on the Device screen).
 
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Sasquatch_Jr said:
Instead this is the first step towards third party apps that can extend the functionality of the Crafty or work on Android 5, iOS 9 or whatever before S&B have a chance to fix their app. This also gets you access to even more diagnostics and low level information than the password protected "diagnostic panel" (tap 5 times on the serial number on the Device screen).
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Ok that's cool and all, but for now imo main thing is to get it working on Android 5 at all.
Is this even app related, and not a general BLE issue?!
If so, this is probably already discussed on related forums, but I'm not really into this.. just consuming. But I've got the feeling other people here are
 
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baje

baje

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Here is a review of the Crafty power pack:

Stolz & Bickel price list on their site shows the "Crafty Power Bank at $29.90. But, their online store doesn't show this item. Wonder if this can be ordered now ?
 
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baje said:
Here is a review of the Crafty power pack:

Stolz & Bickel price list on their site shows the "Crafty Power Bank at $29.90. But, their online store doesn't show this item. Wonder if this can be ordered now ?
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Why not get one from Amazon at a more reasonable price, and more power too.
Can any power bank be bypassed/passthru like on the video?
 
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baje

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A less expensive unit from Amazon makes sense, but interesting that Storz & Bickel see the need for a mobile power solution.
 
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mestizo

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I'm about to but the one that matches the crafty in color, but instead of 1000 mAh I'm going for 1500, is that a good choice? and what are the benefits/risk to more mAhs other than more charging juice?
 
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t-dub

t-dub

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Cheaper is not necessarily better, look at the iSmart ports and the charging rates on the RAV Power unit. For just the vape your fine but I plan on using mine for my phone and other stuff that can take advantage of the iSmart/higher charge rates.
 
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Sasquatch_Jr

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Osn Dosn said:
Ok that's cool and all, but for now imo main thing is to get it working on Android 5 at all.
Is this even app related, and not a general BLE issue?!
If so, this is probably already discussed on related forums, but I'm not really into this.. just consuming. But I've got the feeling other people here are
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The Android 5 failure is 100% an app-related issue. My guess is they used an API of some sort that doesn't work the same way in 5 so it can no longer connect.

Jack Sprat said:
Voltage Accu is the battery voltage. Everything referring to 'Accu' is battery related as Accu is shorthand for a rechargeable battery in German.
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Interesting. I'll update my list to add battery to the various "Accu" lines.
 
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baje said:
but interesting that Storz & Bickel see the need for a mobile power solution.
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No need, but great to have options. If they thought it was needed, it would be included. And the base price would be higher to reflect it too.

Just like car charging is optional, so is this. I use my car charger and my power bank as appropriate, but someone with a lower tolerance could get several days out of a fully charged crafty, and I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate the power bank as anything forced for them to pay for. I like the idea of optional extras and I'm not sure why you make it sound like options are a bad thing.
 
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t-dub said:
Cheaper is not necessarily better, look at the iSmart ports and the charging rates on the RAV Power unit. For just the vape your fine but I plan on using mine for my phone and other stuff that can take advantage of the iSmart/higher charge rates.
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Ah, but is it color coordinated? :rofl:

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Stu said:
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:peace:
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Sorry for back to back. We must have posted at the same moment. Couldn't figure out how to edit in a second reply.

@Stu: Do you have a link for that cable? Might make it to free shipping level!

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mod note: TIFTY!
 
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baje

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darkrom said:
No need, but great to have options. If they thought it was needed, it would be included. And the base price would be higher to reflect it too.

Just like car charging is optional, so is this. I use my car charger and my power bank as appropriate, but someone with a lower tolerance could get several days out of a fully charged crafty, and I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate the power bank as anything forced for them to pay for. I like the idea of optional extras and I'm not sure why you make it sound like options are a bad thing.
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Sorry, I did not intend to make the battery pack option a bad thing. I agree that optional extras are great! Kudos to Storz & Bickel for identifying the need and offering the power bank option so quickly. I'm still wavering between the the Crafty and Mighty so the power bank option is giving the Crafty a bit of an edge for me, even though it will be my only vape with much use at home. Thinking that I will rarely be far from an electrical outlet at home so don't need the extra battery power except when traveling.

Cheers
 
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Stu

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Sinclue said:
Ah, I see it now. Didn't notice the "blue lettering". Was looking for the standard URL. Is that a Staff Member thing or is there a way for us to do it instead of the insert URL icon?

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In the toolbar, click the "link" icon (chain link) after you've highlighted some text in your post, then paste the URL in the dialogue box and you're golden.:tup:

:peace:
 
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