Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

[blackstone]

Does a Crafty+ hit harder than an original Mighty?

I am looking at the Mighty and the Crafty+. At a similar price, which would you choose?

Thanks

Robert-in-YEG

"I bet Einstein turned himself all sorts of colors before he invented the light bulb".
~ Homer Simpson

There is a possibility of it giving slightly stronger effects, but tasting very slightly different in the second half of the sessions. Maybe a little more roasted tasting but I adjusted quickly to the new style heat.
But with the two batteries powering that Mighty heater it might be hard to judge the difference in hardest hitting and ability to keep up, not sure.
There should be a little more airflow on the newer models too.

I think if you need a good number of sessions in the battery away from home, back to back sessions, or the ability to run from a power plug, the Mighty might be best.
But if the small, palm-friendly size, ability to put in a small smell proof case, USB compatibility, or extra 1 year warranty sound important then the Crafty+ is better.
I'd almost always be inclined to go for the newer models for the improved housing material that's supposed to crack less or not at all. Not sure if you'll have ceramic coated oven in that model or if it interests you.
(The latest ceramic coated oven, USB-C charge enabled Crafty+ has no passthrough whatsoever, first model Crafty+ has a basic passthrough if you are stuck like that of many other portables, OG Mighty passthrough was a better system than all Craftys, and many other portables)
And imo the Crafty size is great for things such as (like Troy says for his Mighty) driving your golf cart etc
Both are similarly good though.
Good luck with the purchase I'm sure you'll enjoy either one and happy hols!

 

[Robert-in-YEG]

There is a possibility of it giving slightly stronger effects, but tasting very slightly different in the second half of the sessions. Maybe a little more roasted tasting but I adjusted quickly to the new style heat.
But with the two batteries powering that Mighty heater it might be hard to judge the difference in hardest hitting and ability to keep up, not sure.
There should be a little more airflow on the newer models too.

I think if you need a good number of sessions in the battery away from home, back to back sessions, or the ability to run from a power plug, the Mighty might be best.
But if the small, palm-friendly size, ability to put in a small smell proof case, USB compatibility, or extra 1 year warranty sound important then the Crafty+ is better.
I'd almost always be inclined to go for the newer models for the improved housing material that's supposed to crack less or not at all. Not sure if you'll have ceramic coated oven in that model or if it interests you.
(The latest ceramic coated oven, USB-C charge enabled Crafty+ has no passthrough whatsoever, first model Crafty+ has a basic passthrough if you are stuck like that of many other portables, OG Mighty passthrough was a better system than all Craftys, and many other portables)
And imo the Crafty size is great for things such as (like Troy says for his Mighty) driving your golf cart etc
Both are similarly good though.
Good luck with the purchase I'm sure you'll enjoy either one and happy hols!

After a bit of research, I found that the Crafty+ doesn't have pass-through charging. At least with pass-through charging, the device can be used when the battery is dead.

The Mighty has a proprietary charger. The Mighty+ of course is the newest, but there is a big price difference.

What is interesting me is the hybrid oven. I am interested in trying one.

Robert-in-YEG

 

[vapviking]

The Mighty has a proprietary charger. The Mighty+ of course is the newest, but there is a big price difference.

To clarify, the og Mighty charger is not proprietary, you can find items of identical spec and use them.
Granted, it is nowhere near as common as usb...

I can't comp Mighty v. Crafty+ (I have owned Craftys) but I think hit strength on all of these is in a close comparative range. For all other comp reasons, I would go with Mighty (and I did, I replaced mine with same just this year).
It is more robust in every way.
It uses a larger cooling unit.
I personally prefer the on board screen and controls to reliance on an app in phone.
Crafty is little brother to Mighty, that about sums it up.

 

[jbm]

I personally prefer the on board screen and controls to reliance on an app in phone.

I mostly agree, until the “onboard” screen fails and you’re left with nothing to rely on.

 

[cptofnthng]

I dont really know why you want to change the temperatures all the time? Once you set it up with the app, you can just use all three preset temps with clicking the button. It would be a pain in the ass to have the app running all the time.
Btw guys- what are your experiences with glass and the crafty? I get some very strong hits If i start at 210 C with a Matrix sidecar, but i think its still a long shot to a desktop heavy Like a flowerpot.

 

[vapviking]

I mostly agree, until the “onboard” screen fails and you’re left with nothing to rely on.

My Mighty experience has not included any screen failures. (4+yrs on the first one, now on my second Mighty).
I switched to Mighty's after going through four Crafty's in 2 years)

I dont really know why you want to change the temperatures all the time?

I suppose that's why you have a Crafty and I have a Mighty. And as I said, I don't want to need a phone in the equation at all, shouldn't be difficult to understand.

Sorry to make this into a comparison thread, I mainly posted to correct the remark about a proprietary charger.

 

[blackstone]

Some of the older website marketing for Crafty mentioned it being a great "companion", and it has always probably been a good idea to think of the Crafty as a companion, either to other workhorse type vapes, maybe a Mighty or Volcano, or a companion to you in your pocket on a nice walk.
FC always advised me to get a Mighty first, i did have less other vapes to share the work back then too though.
It was normally only when people (like me!) wished and hoped for all the good points and performance of a Mighty, or a desktop, in something the size and form of a Crafty, that their expectations were unmet or they were left slightly disappointed.
The Crafty+ has since maybe very slightly adjusted these guidelines, depending on the user, as it offers a bit more but if you want to use it quite often, the Mighty is normally always best for that.
As good as the Mighty+ is, there are still times when I need to/should take Crafty+ to look smaller in my hand or to fit in a smaller space, also I only have the Ryot smell proof pouch for that size!
The Mighty (+) would also be the better of the two for visiting a weed-friendly city for example. With plenty battery power, decent pass through charging and quick, or quicker, charging.

I also never had a Mighty screen failure in 4+ years of Mighty use (never had a Volcano Digit/Hybrid screen failure either).
Since shifting to Crafty+ a while back, and now Mighty+ too, I have adopted their standard three temperature button clicking booster system. I probably never used to use Mighty adjust buttons much personally only for experiments, but I understand if someone would want that.
The lack of bluetooth and an app in Mighty (and +) also means it does not track or show the total hours of use logged, which can be a good thing too maybe?!

I think it's a good idea to try this Hybrid oven system, I'm still hooked since I tried it many years ago!
If you're a bargain hunter like me, a Mighty+ in the plan could involve waiting till 4/20 for the first proper discounts on that vape since the pre-order offer that I got.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

I think this should be a good deal 200 euro shipped for the 2021 model if anyone is interested.
Also you are in for free gifts . (dynavaps?)
Tier 1 : € 51 – 99 order = 1 Free gift of your choice
Tier 2 : € 100 – 199 order = 2 Free gifts of your choice (2 gifts total)
Tier 3 : € 200+ order = Dabber‘s ‘good list’ gift (3 gifts total)

CRAFTY+ Vaporizer (2021) (by Storz & Bickel) – Dispensr

The powerful CRAFTY+ vaporizer is the perfect companion on the go. Handy and compact, the CRAFTY+ provides you with outstanding vapour quality, flavour and air flow.

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[BigJr48]

 

[Polarbearboy]

Bought a new Crafty + latest model from PIU to replace my old OG Crafty that I probably have used 5 or 6 days a week for years. I bought the OG Crafty five years ago. After a year the bluetooth stopped working and S-B replaced it quickly and for free. More than a year ago I replaced the battery with a JCat battery. But its taking longer and longer to heat up and sometimes I get flashing lights and it won't work. Five years is plenty so time for a new one.

I considered several alternatives, especially TinyMight. But because I need max cooling/filtering--I'm an old dude with compromised lungs--in a rugged, reliable, compact form for all my outdoors adventuring, I stayed with the Crafty. I just don't see any other good cooling paths on other vapes. The new one heats up much faster and charges faster with the usb-c or whatever it is. I like that all my old accessories like dosing caps and water pipe adapter work with the new one. Got it from PIU with a good discount code and couldn't be happier.

I still have several other vaping methods, including several Vapcaps and all the bangers torches and glass for concentrates. I only use my Craftys with flower.

 

[cliffhanger1]

Because my Mighty+ goes in RMA, i am thinking to buy a Crafty+ V2
Can someone please tell me how long is the charging time from the Crafty+V2 from full empty to full charge?

Edit:
I have a second question. When you left the session at the highest teperature setting and turn the Crafty off. - When you turn it on again later, is there again the highest temperature current on the device ? Or have i to set it again?

 

[Polarbearboy]

Because my Mighty+ goes in RMA, i am thinking to buy a Crafty+ V2
Can someone please tell me how long is the charging time from the Crafty+V2 from full empty to full charge?

Edit:
I have a second question. When you left the session at the highest teperature setting and turn the Crafty off. - When you turn it on again later, is there again the highest temperature current on the device ? Or have i to set it again?

Time to charge from empty or near empty is about 1 1/2 hours. At least compared to my OG Crafty, that's 30-60 minutes faster.
Each session automatically resets to the lowest--steady red then steady blue light--setting each time its been turned off or timed itself out. With the app you can quickly and easily adjust the first setting to always start up to any temp you want.

 

[Jams67]

Hey folks, looking for a bit advice on the crafty plus. Ive had mine for about 6 months, and never really got what all the hype was about. I find the vapour is OK but not great and doesn’t last long before the bowl is spent. I never really found the flavour to be anything special with crafty either.

Recently I was on holiday and never took a vape with me but when I got there I decided I didnt fancy going a week without so I ordered a new vape of amazon. The choices were limited as I needed it delivered to an amazon locker the next day so best choice seemed to be the Pax 3. I had written the Pax off before ever seeing one but I have to say I was/am really impressed with it. It actually performs a lot better than my crafty+, more vapour, tastes slightly better and a bowl lasts a decent amount of time.

From all the comparisons ive looked at the crafty should be performing better than the Pax so I’m trying to figure out if there is something wrong with my crafty. I do notice my crafty can take ages to charge sometimes and when it heats up there is a bit of a rattle From within the unit, feels like the heater is loose, is this normal?

 

[justcametomind]

Hey folks, looking for a bit advice on the crafty plus. Ive had mine for about 6 months, and never really got what all the hype was about. I find the vapour is OK but not great and doesn’t last long before the bowl is spent. I never really found the flavour to be anything special with crafty either.

Recently I was on holiday and never took a vape with me but when I got there I decided I didnt fancy going a week without so I ordered a new vape of amazon. The choices were limited as I needed it delivered to an amazon locker the next day so best choice seemed to be the Pax 3. I had written the Pax off before ever seeing one but I have to say I was/am really impressed with it. It actually performs a lot better than my crafty+, more vapour, tastes slightly better and a bowl lasts a decent amount of time.

From all the comparisons ive looked at the crafty should be performing better than the Pax so I’m trying to figure out if there is something wrong with my crafty. I do notice my crafty can take ages to charge sometimes and when it heats up there is a bit of a rattle From within the unit, feels like the heater is loose, is this normal?

Best guess I can think of, you are using your Crafty+ with the an open lid or missing some o-rings. Otherwise, especially if using sub par weed, I agree that sometimes 100 % conduction vapes can give better results.
Rattling is not usual. Have you ever cleaned your cooling unit? Open it and if there's nothing wrong inside there, contact S&B for RMA.

 

[Jams67]

Best guess I can think of, you are using your Crafty+ with the an open lid or missing some o-rings. Otherwise, especially if using sub par weed, I agree that sometimes 100 % conduction vapes can give better results.

Cheers for the reply, by open lid do you mean the CU sliding lock being left open? I dont really use the crafty much now and when i do I usually leave the glass WPA on it, but performance seems to be the same wether using that or the CU, I will check there is no missing O rings just in case though.

I have a small collection of vapes some convection, some conduction and they all perform as expected bar my crafty. The only other hybrid I have is the Volcano and ive not had the same experience with that either. Tried different grinds, packs dosing capsules etc. It just never seemed to hit the spot like my other vapes.

 

[justcametomind]

Cheers for the reply, by open lid do you mean the CU sliding lock being left open? I dont really use the crafty much now and when i do I usually leave the glass WPA on it, but performance seems to be the same wether using that or the CU, I will check there is no missing O rings just in case though.

I have a small collection of vapes some convection, some conduction and they all perform as expected bar my crafty. The only other hybrid I have is the Volcano and ive not had the same experience with that either. Tried different grinds, packs dosing capsules etc. It just never seemed to hit the spot like my other vapes.

Yes I was meaning the sliding lock. But if you hear rattling inside the main unit contact SB and ship your C+ back. They'll send you a new one if you are covered by warranty

 

[Jams67]

Yes I was meaning the sliding lock. But if you hear rattling inside the main unit contact SB and ship your C+ back. They'll send you a new one if you are covered by warranty

Cheers, ive contacted S&B need to send them a video, hopefully they will be able to tell if theres a fault with my unit from the video

EDIT:

Got an email back from S&B, my Crafty+ Will be replaced under warranty after watching the video. Superb customer service to be fair.

 

[cliffhanger1]

How many sessions do you all get from your Crafty+ V2 with around 0,1 g ?
I read something here but i am more intereted, because i can get a Crafty+V2 for 200 Euro. - otherwise i am knowning an offer for the Mighty+ for 270 Euro. But i already have a Mighty.
A must have is for me at mindest 3 or better 4 sessions. All under 3 is not ok for me.

 

[noobvaperct]

I just don't understand why they can't make the M+/C+ have replaceable batteries... Not the biggest fan of aluminum dosing caps either.

 

[vapviking]

I just don't understand why they can't make the M+/C+ have replaceable batteries.

One justification I recall from years ago, that can also apply to a wide range of devices (not just vapes) is a safety concern.
The closed system is safer because there is zero handling of the battery, really no chance to damage the wrap, etc.

 

[noobvaperct]

One justification I recall from years ago, that can also apply to a wide range of devices (not just vapes) is a safety concern.
The closed system is safer because there is zero handling of the battery, really no chance to damage the wrap, etc.

I understand that completely, but from the consumer side, if something were to happen to the battery, I have to pay to get it serviced, be without a vape for however long that would take, or worse, have to completely buy a brand new unit.

 

[RAG]

Thinking about ordering a crafty+ instead of a new mighty+, how many bowls are you getting out of your crafty+ v2?

Love my OG Mighty but always complained about the size but never the battery life.. usually smoke in total 4 bowls a day pressed with the force of carl Alfred and every bowl is usually divided into 3 session 3x4= 12 sessions in totals is what I would need. Can the crafty handle 12x3minutes sessions in one day without charging? I believe the go mighty has a timed session of 3 minutes and the go crafty has a timed session of 2 minutes, what about the crafty+?

 

[Duba]

Hi everyone,
A friend lent me his Crafty (very nice!) so I could make a leather jacket for someone who asked me to. I also made one for my friend.
I'll make some others.

https://imgur.com/a/peRUTNO

It's very easy to dress / undress it with the snaps :

https://imgur.com/3l6smQ3

 

[Duba]

Hi,
I made a small adaptation to the jacket: I added 2 airflow holes that you can play with to change the airflow. There is one on each side :

https://imgur.com/a/JQlfzLL

 

[Nahojii]

HELP me ID my Crafty+

Earlier today I got my Crafty+ replaced through RMA due to issues with charging, and I just wonder if I'll receive the Micro-USB or the USB-C version.

On my invoice it says "CPAL-10-001" is the unit that has been sent out.

Do anyone know or still have their invoice from Storz & Bickel and can help me check this out? I guess it's the older Micro-USB Crafty+, but I'm not sure.