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You can turn off the vibration function on the crafty??
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You can turn off the vibration function on the crafty??
cloudsosmoke
Well-Known Member
vibration can be set to off
with the app
tho
(..i think..) i remember reading on S&B site that leds and vibrate use minimal power
with the app
tho
(..i think..) i remember reading on S&B site that leds and vibrate use minimal power
Little Bill
Oldest stoner on FC
Last unassembled factory unit discussed had push on tabs to connect the battery to the logic board. I figure that repetitive vibration would not be good for those tabs or maybe even solder joints. It also saves a bit on battery use.
edit: I did leave the leds on but minimum brightness setting.
Crafty Vaper
Ain't easy being green
Hey Bill! My experience is different! I never turned off the vibration and the lights are mostly on 100% in my Craftys. I had 4 of the little beasts and I never realised a change in battery power...lights on or off. My current unit has 222 hours on the clock and gives me still three 10-13 minutes sessions per charge. Vape on and enjoy your crafty. If it fails, S&B will take care, they always sent me a new unit within 5 days.
DarkSm0ke
Well-Known Member
Ahh, IC! Okay I understand now. I visualized a longer cone. Yeah it all makes sense now. I do have a pax 2 (it is out of rotation), and never used the screen trick, although I have seen places online selling "oven reducers". I might have to try that
. Thanks again @Mr. Me2 !
Little Bill
Oldest stoner on FC
I like the name Crafty Vaper! I know that S&B has good service; but my two years warranty will be up in 6 months. Because my usage is light any failure will likely happen after that. I just want that time frame to be as long as possible. The fact that you have had 4 of the little beasts in two years just proves my point.
I sent out my 1.5 year old Crafty to S&B for the first time due to the battery overheating warning showing up at the end of the first session (roughly 10 mins.) I received an email today saying my RMA is closed and that I would receive a tracking # when the device was shipped out.
I guess my question is: how good of a chance do I have of receiving a brand new Crafty? Id honestly hate to receive my funky old Crafty with new batteries.
I guess my question is: how good of a chance do I have of receiving a brand new Crafty? Id honestly hate to receive my funky old Crafty with new batteries.
hinglemccringleberry
Well-Known Member
Late to the party here but to get this straight, does the data confirm that there's basically a 100% failure rate for rhe Crafty? Even for new units purchased today? Did s&b come up w/ a real fix or do they just have a service bulletin based on planned obsolescence and repeated warranty fixes?
Little Bill
Oldest stoner on FC
I have read this entire thread and I don't recall any service bulletin being discussed. I don't think anyone has disassembled a recently manufactured unit to see if any changes have been made. It makes sense that S&B has some kind of ongoing QA program. My first unit lasted 17 months with 41 hours on the clock. I'm now putting about an hour a week on the new unit. Best case after warranty is up would be having to replace the battery at some point if nothing else fails.
Mr Mellish
Well-Known Member
I had a 23 month old Crafty with miserable heat-up times. They sent me a brand new one with all the goodies.
Little Bill
Oldest stoner on FC
Congratulations. You just made it under the two year window.
Mr Mellish
Well-Known Member
That's why I decided to send it in!
ligi
ligi
My warranty also enters month #23 soon ( 98h currently / 3rd device - working hard to put some more hours on it - how have your heat-up times been? Also has anyone tried after the 24 months? I think legally I should have 25 as one month it has been shipped around for RMA reasons and AFAIK the device needs to be working in your hands for 24 Months - but I am also not keen on wasting time talking to lawyers ..
- how have your heat-up times been? Also has anyone tried after the 24 months? I think legally I should have 25 as one month it has been shipped around for RMA reasons and AFAIK the device needs to be working in your hands for 24 Months - but I am also not keen on wasting time talking to lawyers ..
vapviking
Old & In the Way
I've never corroborated this further, but I have an email from S&B that answers a question I had asked (well over a year ago) re; exactly when my warranty began. Contrary to all other stated policy and other reports, this email tells me that my 2 year warranty coverage BEGAN on the day S&B first received my original unit in for its first warranty service. The email gives the date-certain that this happened, and that date is about 2+ months later than my purchase and receipt dates. I think it's coming up in March this year but the Mighty just keeps on truckin', so it doesn't seem I'll ever get to test this warranty date thing. Mighty was an upgrade after 4th crafty and is now a bit over 15 months old.My warranty also enters month #23 soon ( 98h currently / 3rd device - working hard to put some more hours on it
zenmasterofzinfandel
Well-Known Member
3X have had Crafty units fail in 1yr, 1st @around 35hrs or so, next 72hrs, most recent <60hrs...was working fine for about a month after I let it sit in the jar pictured with the molecular sieve (not sure if this particular MS can absorb ISO, but there are MS that can) for 10days. Lucky for me I live near enough to IMPAK, that I could get single packets of MS for not much money. They do sell a MS that has blue indicator to tell you when the MS is saturated, but you have to buy min quantity, something like $25.
I dropped two 1oz packets into the glass jar that I sealed with duct tape, left most in packets, some spilled that you can see @bottom.
Crafty-mol-sieve by zenmasterofzinfandel, on Flickr
My suspicion this time, is electronics overheated to the point of damage. The only time I decide to not use the app, and just go by the LED lights...should have used the app as I thought I had a full charge, but in reality forgot to charge it when it got down to 1 bar status (but before getting low battery warning)...then it stopped and I checked to see the battery was completely discharged on the app, lol. Put it on charge, 1+hrs later it showed fully charged (which is wrong, since it takes 2+hrs on a fully discharged battery). Next time I tried to start it, pushed button, got red power light on the LED, app connects very temporarily> red LED goes out. No power, cannot get the app to establish a connection with the Crafty. Sent in RMA request. If only S-B would redesign this unit, using a cooler running Samsung battery, maybe the electronics would last longer
I dropped two 1oz packets into the glass jar that I sealed with duct tape, left most in packets, some spilled that you can see @bottom.
Crafty-mol-sieve by zenmasterofzinfandel, on FlickrMy suspicion this time, is electronics overheated to the point of damage. The only time I decide to not use the app, and just go by the LED lights...should have used the app as I thought I had a full charge, but in reality forgot to charge it when it got down to 1 bar status (but before getting low battery warning)...then it stopped and I checked to see the battery was completely discharged on the app, lol. Put it on charge, 1+hrs later it showed fully charged (which is wrong, since it takes 2+hrs on a fully discharged battery). Next time I tried to start it, pushed button, got red power light on the LED, app connects very temporarily> red LED goes out. No power, cannot get the app to establish a connection with the Crafty. Sent in RMA request. If only S-B would redesign this unit, using a cooler running Samsung battery, maybe the electronics would last longer
Crafty Vaper
Ain't easy being green
3X have had Crafty units fail in 1yr, 1st @around 35hrs or so, next 72hrs, most recent <60hrs...was working fine for about a month after I let it sit in the jar pictured with the molecular sieve (not sure if this particular MS can absorb ISO, but there are MS that can) for 10days. Lucky for me I live near enough to IMPAK, that I could get single packets of MS for not much money. They do sell a MS that has blue indicator to tell you when the MS is saturated, but you have to buy min quantity, something like $25.
I dropped two 1oz packets into the glass jar that I sealed with duct tape, left most in packets, some spilled that you can see @bottom.
My suspicion this time, is electronics overheated to the point of damage. The only time I decide to not use the app, and just go by the LED lights...should have used the app as I thought I had a full charge, but in reality forgot to charge it when it got down to 1 bar status (but before getting low battery warning)...then it stopped and I checked to see the battery was completely discharged on the app, lol. Put it on charge, 1+hrs later it showed fully charged (which is wrong, since it takes 2+hrs on a fully discharged battery). Next time I tried to start it, pushed button, got red power light on the LED, app connects very temporarily> red LED goes out. No power, cannot get the app to establish a connection with the Crafty. Sent in RMA request. If only S-B would redesign this unit, using a cooler running Samsung battery, maybe the electronics would last longer
I am resetting my Crafty once a week (turn the unit on and press the button for 10 seconds, all lights will show up and the crafty is resetted) , I think it helps. My Crafty has 230 hours on the clock and is still doing great! Three sessions 10to13 minutes each one on default temperature (180 and 195).
Vape on!
vapviking
Old & In the Way
If I understand correctly, you put it in this torture chamber to get it to fail, then get a new one?3X have had Crafty units fail in 1yr, 1st @around 35hrs or so, next 72hrs, most recent <60hrs...was working fine for about a month after I let it sit in the jar pictured with the molecular sieve (not sure if this particular MS can absorb ISO, but there are MS that can) for 10days. Lucky for me I live near enough to IMPAK, that I could get single packets of MS for not much money. They do sell a MS that has blue indicator to tell you when the MS is saturated, but you have to buy min quantity, something like $25.
I dropped two 1oz packets into the glass jar that I sealed with duct tape, left most in packets, some spilled that you can see @bottom.
My suspicion this time, is electronics overheated to the point of damage. The only time I decide to not use the app, and just go by the LED lights...should have used the app as I thought I had a full charge, but in reality forgot to charge it when it got down to 1 bar status (but before getting low battery warning)...then it stopped and I checked to see the battery was completely discharged on the app, lol. Put it on charge, 1+hrs later it showed fully charged (which is wrong, since it takes 2+hrs on a fully discharged battery). Next time I tried to start it, pushed button, got red power light on the LED, app connects very temporarily> red LED goes out. No power, cannot get the app to establish a connection with the Crafty. Sent in RMA request. If only S-B would redesign this unit, using a cooler running Samsung battery, maybe the electronics would last longer
Vambo1980
Well-Known Member
3X have had Crafty units fail in 1yr, 1st @around 35hrs or so, next 72hrs, most recent <60hrs...was working fine for about a month after I let it sit in the jar pictured with the molecular sieve (not sure if this particular MS can absorb ISO, but there are MS that can) for 10days. Lucky for me I live near enough to IMPAK, that I could get single packets of MS for not much money. They do sell a MS that has blue indicator to tell you when the MS is saturated, but you have to buy min quantity, something like $25.
I dropped two 1oz packets into the glass jar that I sealed with duct tape, left most in packets, some spilled that you can see @bottom.
My suspicion this time, is electronics overheated to the point of damage. The only time I decide to not use the app, and just go by the LED lights...should have used the app as I thought I had a full charge, but in reality forgot to charge it when it got down to 1 bar status (but before getting low battery warning)...then it stopped and I checked to see the battery was completely discharged on the app, lol. Put it on charge, 1+hrs later it showed fully charged (which is wrong, since it takes 2+hrs on a fully discharged battery). Next time I tried to start it, pushed button, got red power light on the LED, app connects very temporarily> red LED goes out. No power, cannot get the app to establish a connection with the Crafty. Sent in RMA request. If only S-B would redesign this unit, using a cooler running Samsung battery, maybe the electronics would last longer
Which Samsung battery runs cooler than the Panasonic PF? All high drain Samsungs run hot hot hot no?
Little Bill
Oldest stoner on FC
Well maybe VAS will claim another FC member.
I do love my Crafty. It is so easy to use and to keep clean. I usually clean it while it is cooling. I never pack it full or too tight. The ABV is normally medium dark brown. I put the concentrate spacer on top of the flower load. I put in a clean spacer about twice as often as I clean the cooling tower.
The draw is easy, smooth, and tasty. Sometimes I hit it so hard and fast that the vapor and mouthpiece get warm. Because of the limited battery life, you are encouraged to draw hard and keep session time to a minimum.
I have been micro-dosing and with a fully charged battery can get 6 sessions lasting about 5 minutes each and consuming .007 gm per session.
Having said all that I still want to try a vape on demand portable so I can medicate more slowly. I also am interested in a vape that I can sip on without worrying about battery life. Even better if I can find one unit that will be good for both.
Some of you Crafty owners must have other vapes that you can compare and contrast that would complement the Crafty. I have read this entire thread and a few others and I have money to spend. I just need some guidance please.
I do love my Crafty. It is so easy to use and to keep clean. I usually clean it while it is cooling. I never pack it full or too tight. The ABV is normally medium dark brown. I put the concentrate spacer on top of the flower load. I put in a clean spacer about twice as often as I clean the cooling tower.
The draw is easy, smooth, and tasty. Sometimes I hit it so hard and fast that the vapor and mouthpiece get warm. Because of the limited battery life, you are encouraged to draw hard and keep session time to a minimum.
I have been micro-dosing and with a fully charged battery can get 6 sessions lasting about 5 minutes each and consuming .007 gm per session.
Having said all that I still want to try a vape on demand portable so I can medicate more slowly. I also am interested in a vape that I can sip on without worrying about battery life. Even better if I can find one unit that will be good for both.
Some of you Crafty owners must have other vapes that you can compare and contrast that would complement the Crafty. I have read this entire thread and a few others and I have money to spend. I just need some guidance please.
cloudsosmoke
Well-Known Member
@Little Bill
have you tried butane vapes?
(tho butane usually means approx zero stealth)
there are more experienced FC members than me whod have more/better advice
have you tried butane vapes?
(tho butane usually means approx zero stealth)
there are more experienced FC members than me whod have more/better advice
Little Bill
Oldest stoner on FC
Well, my Crafty's been performing pretty poorly for quite a while now, taking ~3min to heat up and then recovery time between hits became poor as well. I finally decided to take the plunge. After much research, and thanks to @Vambo1980 as well as a post on Redit, I decided I was ready to get started with replacing the battery. I've ordered from NKON in the Netherlands 4 batteries with tabs already spot welded on. I ordered a Sony VCT6, 2 LG HG2, and a Panasonic NCR18650PF (the same one as in the Crafty). I also ordered what I think will be the right cable/connector so I don't have to remove/re-solder the existing battery cable. Might take a few weeks to get the batteries, but once they are in and I've attempted the replacement I'll let everyone know how it goes!
Well, I've submitted an RMA request after about 1.5 years. I'd been using my Crafty alongside the Grasshopper recently, as there's something to be said for session vapes sometimes. I went to power on my Crafty to finish a session yesterday and it doesn't power on. The LED does something for the first few seconds after the vibration, the battery is charged, but it won't turn on connected to USB or not. So we'll see what happens in the next couple days.
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Did you attempt a 'factory rest' by pressing and holding the power button for about ten seconds?
If it's going in for RMA, this might be a good time to request upgrade to the big brother.