jambandphan03
in flavor country
my bad, I didn't look close enough, looks very similar to the reducer listing. sorry folks... you are right they are not listed anymore that I can find either... bummer.
Cheap High Quality Bubbler
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Erwin
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Wait for the diffusion pump from Steven, coming soon thanks to the Concept Glass thread. That's the piece I think my JoDa honeybucket is destined for, personally
I'm no more angry now than I was upset two pages ago when you accused me of being that. And I certainly never meant to offend you. I misinterpreted what you were saying when you said you "wouldn't recommend anything from china where the combustion/vaporization takes place," and assumed you meant all China glass pipes. I didn't realize you were referring only to Chinese nails. Had my interpretation been correct, my question regarding your reasons for participating in this thread would have been very valid, but I now see that that's not what you meant. I hope there's no hard feelings or anything.
Now that I understand you: I definitely know enough to avoid Chinese TI, but I've always heard that quartz is safe as you're much less likely to encounter impurities. Do you know of reasons to avoid Chinese quartz?
tennstrong
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Man I'd agree with you on the diff pump, but I do think that the piece you linked (pretty much a pyrology knockoff) would have quite good function, albeit quite the diffusion for dabs, so if you wanted lower diffusion go for the diff pump (honestly I barely think the vapor will touch water barely much at all in motion to cool the smoke which is part of why they work well, people like it for the cooling of the water coated tube/you really want a little water diffusion for dabs due to their nature). The piece though seems to be a very solid pyrology knockoff and I would grab if I was in need of a recycling rig.Wait for the diffusion pump from Steven, coming soon thanks to the Concept Glass thread. That's the piece I think my JoDa honeybucket is destined for, personally
I'm no more angry now than I was upset two pages ago when you accused me of being that. And I certainly never meant to offend you. I misinterpreted what you were saying when you said you "wouldn't recommend anything from china where the combustion/vaporization takes place," and assumed you meant all China glass pipes. I didn't realize you were referring only to Chinese nails. Had my interpretation been correct, my question regarding your reasons for participating in this thread would have been very valid, but I now see that that's not what you meant. I hope there's no hard feelings or anything.
Now that I understand you: I definitely know enough to avoid Chinese TI, but I've always heard that quartz is safe as you're much less likely to encounter impurities. Do you know of reasons to avoid Chinese quartz?
Edit: I'd like to add my own question for you all. For those who have gotten dropdowns from china have they actually been 90 degrees? or is it worth it to just spend the extra 30$ and get a local.
Erwin
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You might be right. I've never actually hit a diffusion pump, so I'm just going off of what I've heard others say. Which piece that I linked? Are you talking about that Vertigo pillar recycler I posted on the concept glass thread a couple of weeks ago? I still think that one would be amazing, like potentially the perfect rig. I've got a couple of really impressive looking function videos bookmarked, I was actually thinking of posting them up again over there and see if people take to the idea...
tennstrong
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I was actually referring to the linked video he posted earlier when he was asking for input on if it would function well as a daily driver (as i understood it).
I'm sure I as well as many other users would be eager to see any new progressions/innovations and videos would be great! And hey if you haven't passed on the word yet @Erwin throw more female 18 or 14mm ideas at them! More adaptable for people who now just use dropdowns and also more interest for FC enthusiasts generally. I always have a few ideas floating around in my head for new innovations, so if you have a connect I'd gladly sketch some up on paper, honestly some ideas I am truly surprised aren't more copied currently, like the roor dome hasn't even been copied yet and I'd think that would be among the first.
*For those who don't know what this is, its basically a 14mm male dome that supports the nail (http://torontohemp.com/products/roor-germany-oil-dome-14mm-male-joint) that you place on their stand which lifts up the nail for you to heat (http://torontohemp.com/products/roor-germany-oil-dome-holder-nail-lifter-14mm-female-joint). I've seen and held/put together the parts, and it seems so basic but at the same time very intuitive. I see it as a much better option for dabs than a nail + dome regularly, and possibly replacing my domeless if it does get reproduced/dhgated. It really seems nice to just have a basic bong setup that you can heat seperately from your rig (giving you no risk of cracking) while also being handsfree like a domeless. (somewhat akin to a honeybucket in a way I guess)
Erwin
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Ah, Gotcha. I thought you were referencing something I posted...I was actually referring to the linked video he posted earlier when he was asking for input on if it would function well as a daily driver (as i understood it).
Personally I think it's probably one of the best recyclers in a while due to its inherent nature and would snap it up if it currently had a 18mm female joint (enail got me stuck on rigs that will work well with it haha, currently have a enail bangeron the way so only sights are on getting a rig that will function well with that and my 14mm-18male dd normal setup)
I'm sure I as well as many other users would be eager to see any new progressions/innovations and videos would be great! And hey if you haven't passed on the word yet @Erwin throw more female 18 or 14mm ideas at them! More adaptable for people who now just use dropdowns and also more interest for FC enthusiasts generally. I always have a few ideas floating around in my head for new innovations, so if you have a connect I'd gladly sketch some up on paper, honestly some ideas I am truly surprised aren't more copied currently, like the roor dome hasn't even been copied yet and I'd think that would be among the first.
*For those who don't know what this is, its basically a 14mm male dome that supports the nail (http://torontohemp.com/products/roor-germany-oil-dome-14mm-male-joint) that you place on their stand which lifts up the nail for you to heat (http://torontohemp.com/products/roor-germany-oil-dome-holder-nail-lifter-14mm-female-joint). I've seen and held/put together the parts, and it seems so basic but at the same time very intuitive. I see it as a much better option for dabs than a nail + dome regularly, and possibly replacing my domeless if it does get reproduced/dhgated. It really seems nice to just have a basic bong setup that you can heat seperately from your rig (giving you no risk of cracking) while also being handsfree like a domeless. (somewhat akin to a honeybucket in a way I guess)
So I just spent a solid 5 minutes trying to figure out what this roor dome thing is, and I don't know if it's because I'm going strong today or what but I can't honestly figure it out. Do you have a better description link and/or a function video? I just can't seem to conceptualize exactly what it is or how you use it...
NorthernHuskie
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If Chinese TI is so bad then can someone recommend a new place to get good cheap nails? Lol I had ceramic but it just finally cracked so I wanna get one that'll last. Preferably universal
Dangus
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
If Chinese TI is so bad then can someone recommend a new place to get good cheap nails? Lol I had ceramic but it just finally cracked so I wanna get one that'll last. Preferably universal
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cheap-high-quality-nails.14448/
little maggie
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I'm new to this all and want something small. Will this work with an UD or a Solo?
ataxian
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I use a solo the most.
GSC + Paris OG + KIEF= D020
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I have other pieces and more on the way!
D020 is a decent start.
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Monsoon
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I was thinking about risking it with CCG for that piece but the minimum shipping price of $28 seems a bit nuts.
little maggie
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I'm ready to buy my first water pipe for my solo and UD. I was going to wait but my breathing is making it difficult to vape dry. I've narrowed it down to 3. The first 2 are pretty much the same price and I don't know enough to figure out the difference:
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/d021-glass-water-smoking-color-pipe-with/184390558.html
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/d020-bubbler-hand-blown-glass-vase-perc-water/175832535.html
the third is the fc-187: http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2014-new-matrix-sidecar-glass-bong-birdcage/214701656.html
I'd appreciate any advice from you. I have wong's coming from Ed's in a different size connector for each vaporizer.
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/d021-glass-water-smoking-color-pipe-with/184390558.html
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/d020-bubbler-hand-blown-glass-vase-perc-water/175832535.html
the third is the fc-187: http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2014-new-matrix-sidecar-glass-bong-birdcage/214701656.html
I'd appreciate any advice from you. I have wong's coming from Ed's in a different size connector for each vaporizer.
Mister G
Deceptively Old Fart
D021 - it is suspected that the birdcage perc is too high in the can for good function
I personally suggest the FC-187, but if you are wary about a first purchase, the D020 is the classic introductory china piece. Or get both, they are reasonable prices.
The FC187 has the larger can size volume that I think the vapes your using would appreciate, but in this thread some have gotten flawed pieces but most got good functioning water tools and the 187 vendor has mixed reviews on his shipping practices. The Sunshine Store is about the best sure thing for good quality, stress free customer service if you need refund/replacement and the best shipping packed against breakage and speed from order to delivery. So what is your level of risk tolerance on those factors? High, get the 187, low get the D020.
Oh, and it looks like the FC-187 is available in singles again, not sure if anyone else posted that.
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Herr_Dampf
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I don't know if anyone posted these already but Steven has Dabbaccino knockoffs for $29.10 with the cool logos sandblasted on and avaliable in all sizes 10, 14, and 18
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You are pretty much endorsing 1:1 knock offs that are getting used to rip off unaware customers. This is why I kept reporting posts of those, sadly to no avail. How anybody into glassblowing can still support this thread is beyond me. I for one am out.
tennstrong
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I'll try my best to find a function vid of this roor dome. Once you see it you'll think it's so simple you wouldn't believe it hasn't been copied. "Place an oil dome (
)over the top of the glass pin which will hold a nail securely in place for heating. Once the nail has reached the required temperature, simply lift the dome off the top and place it in your bong." That's probably the best description I can get for you atm until i find a vid (these things are crazy expensive, so nobody really bought them). It functions just like in the quote but you have a male jointed dome
so it lifts the nail above the dome to heat, while having a small cup and being very adaptable for bongs or primarily for straight bongs where you would heat your nail on an angle/ in contact with you possibly expensive piece. this way there is less heat transfer to your piece and it is very basic and replicable. I mean they'ved copied every other roor design except this lol, the nice thing is how adaptable this is really and handy, held/used in store and it pretty well seemed like a cheaper design option opposed to honeybuckets which do nearly the same thing
In regards to this, I have to say, for the original dabbucino was just an idea and creative sandblasting, and china will have no respect for copying popular design and to be honest the function should be the deciding factor (which evol would take cake in, obviously), it shouldn't put you off a thread/group all together. People like a popular and easy to copy cups from china and they also like the sandblasting of it, the perc and everything resemble nothing of the original that aside. As far as passing off cups as being from evol, thats a different story and is scummy and terrible/illegal matter seperately, although I don't think anyone here has been trying to call them the original dabuccino, we all know clones all too well and are actually avidly opposed to it as you can see in our previous mobius deal with maarte.You are pretty much endorsing 1:1 knock offs that are getting used to rip off unaware customers. This is why I kept reporting posts of those, sadly to no avail. How anybody into glassblowing can still support this thread is beyond me. I for one am out.
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little maggie
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Thanks everyone for your help. I went with the DO20 for now.
olivianewtonjohn
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Solid choice, D020 works great with the solo
ChiefKeefe
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D020-d is so fire. Might order a few more just to have on deck. D022 is amazing also
grdwaste
Glass Psycho
So I have my new evo coming in on Monday and just sold my bubbler and am looking for a replacement piece to use with the evo. I'm looking at the GB 186 and the d020d. I want a heavy hitter that can build a large hit but at the same time want flavor retention which worries me about the GB 186. Please let me know your thoughts.
http://m.dhgate.com/product/hot-sell-the-newest-glass-bong-glass-smoking/190628396.html#s1-2-1
http://m.dhgate.com/product/d020-d-bubbler-glass-water-percolator-smoking/187214099.html#pd-019
http://m.dhgate.com/product/hot-sell-the-newest-glass-bong-glass-smoking/190628396.html#s1-2-1
http://m.dhgate.com/product/d020-d-bubbler-glass-water-percolator-smoking/187214099.html#pd-019
I have the GB-186 and like it a lot. My only gripe is that the mouthpiece is slightly too high for me to hit comfortably sitting in my "dab lab" chair.
SSVUN~YAH
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I am into glassblowing, and I support this thread. I wonder if the first person to make a hamburger hated restaurants. Do you buy generic drugs? I think it's insane drug companys can patent a cheap product and charge an insane price, when other people/companies could easily make it but just wasn't quick enough for the patent. Now coverups or glass blowers selling as originals I don't agree! However, that is their faux pa not ours, shame on you for scolding our great community and seemingly calling us all hoaxers.
Cablue
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While I don't have a GB 186, I have the Stereo Matrix DI special edition and tbh I realllllly don't like it. It's apparent now that double matrix stacking is just WAY too chuggy with way too much water for my liking, he might of fixed it with his new versions this christmas by decreasing the perc sizes on both the Trichome and Stereo versions though. Let's just say my stereo hasn't been touched in quite a bit since I got the bubbler version of it.
I'd recommend something with less water, but if chuggy and smooth is what you're looking for it could be a hit!
I have said this before. I believe that the knock-off attempts can be taken as a positive. This will keep the real innovators doing what they do best, innovating! Now, as for outright counterfeiting. By this I mean branding a knock-off as authentic is bad. Absolutely unconscionable. I do, however laugh at the ROOR logos on my GB-186. I would not laugh if it had möbius logos on it and I paid $$$$ for it.
Counterfeiters should be shot with a ball of their own
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Counterfeiters should be shot with a ball of their own
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Cablue
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I have said this before. I believe that the knock-off attempts can be taken as a positive. This will keep the real innovators doing what they do best, innovating! Now, as for outright counterfeiting. By this I mean branding a knock-off as authentic is bad. Absolutely unconscionable. I do, however laugh at the ROOR logos on my GB-186. I would not laugh if it had möbius logos on it and I paid $$$$ for it.
Counterfeiters should be shot with a ball of their own
As an avid e-cig/box mod user I agree with this as well. China clones are what force the innovation of better products, without it they could get rather stagnant and milk the shit out of things.
Tweak
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This is the only issue I take with it too. And I'm afraid to say it may hurt the resale of genuine pieces. Fake logo's are not cool.
The way I look at it is just like the photography business. If some "professional's" product (photos) cannot be distinguished from that of an amateur that hasn't had the same time and experience in the craft as they have, maybe their products don't demand the price they ask. Adding a fake Watermark to an image would be akin to adding a fake logo.
On the flip side, not everybody can afford a Professional photographer for there wedding/Senior Portraits. Does this mean they should not get a product from someone trying to duplicate that of a pro? Sure the product isn't as great, but it's still functional and has use and meaning.
"Perfection is a lot of little things done well" That is why they cost the most money, as with most things in life.