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[Cannabis Connoisseur]

New from Kathy...
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2015-new-double-recycler-11-inches-glass/215177116.html

AND "Kitchen Sink Recycler"
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2015-new-glass-bong-10-inches-new-double/215176147.html

I'm sure that bottom piece will function in some fashion, but Lord knows that thing is hideous
and it'll probably blow water back up the return tube. Just my

 

[tennstrong]

Messaged kathy asking for a function video saying that others are waiting on it too re: the klein (http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2015-new-double-recycler-11-inches-glass/215177116.html)
Also to note this is probably the cheapest I've seen the d020 **especially for non-US people as there is free shipping intl. http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2015-new-double-recycler-11-inches-glass/215177116.html , I have something very similar to the d020 and I'm even tempted for under 20 bucks. (no experience with that vendor though)

On another note: they seem to have learned and added glass bases for the honey straws.

Thoughts on this? I have concerns about the uptake tube/ splash guard filling with water, does anyone know if there are slits on it or if it is just open ended? Verry tempting, along with the recent vids FC members have posted.

 

[ataxian]

New from Kathy...
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2015-new-double-recycler-11-inches-glass/215177116.html

AND "Kitchen Sink Recycler"
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2015-new-glass-bong-10-inches-new-double/215176147.html

I would buy à blue onè right now!
Why do they use greèn?

 

[nemo]

I would buy à blue onè right now!
Why do they use greèn?

(not sure if you are kidding... i hope it's ok either way )

 

[ataxian]

(not sure if you are kidding... i hope it's ok either way )

Can you choosè?

 

[nemo]

Can you choosè?

yeap
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2015-new-glass-bong-10-inches-new-double/215176147.html

 

[Trogdor]

What are your guys thoughts on the bear mountain recycler on sunshinestore? Been thinking of adding a flower recycler to satisfy my newly discovered GAS

 

[Frederick McGuire]

I personally don't see the point in it...

There's no perc in there so it's just a big chuggy natural perc, and because if that you need a very high water level to recycle...

I just don't see the appeal of that design...

 

[Oglop]

@grdwaste is that the honeybucket from Bakebros?

 

[grdwaste]

@grdwaste is that the honeybucket from Bakebros?

I bought it at my local head shop for $60. I think so though looking at them online. Damn they're $40 on ebay but I trust my head shop and I got it today.

Does anyone knows ewhere to get an ofz carb cap like one of these?

 

[Trogdor]

I personally don't see the point in it...

There's no perc in there so it's just a big chuggy natural perc, and because if that you need a very high water level to recycle...

I just don't see the appeal of that design...

Maybe some diffuser beads might help in that regard? I like how chunky it looks and it seems to be decently sized too. Any other recyclers on dhgate worth considering for flowers?

 

[grdwaste]

@grdwaste The double barrel and barrel to funnel are very similar. They have a pretty smooth pull with a small amount of chug. The barrel to funnel chugs a little more than the double barrel because of the restriction from the longer uptake tubes. However, the barrel to funnel is a proper recycler where as the double barrel is more of a half recycler.

I haven't used the Klein incycler but I would say wait for Stevens version as I'm sure it will be better since @blankrider is helping tweak the design.

I can post a video of the double barrel and barrel to funnel when I get home in like 6 hours.

Which one do you prefer? And does the funnel vortex properly?

 

[Oglop]

Does anyone knows ewhere to get an ofz carb cap like one of these?

Bakebros is getting some carb caps for their honeybuckets soon.

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

Well I can confirm some unfortunate news. Our man Steven has issued me a FAKE tracking number. That was 2 days ago. I just confirmed with the carrier that the number is bogus. Fuck this guy.

 

[hanfhead]

That sucks. I figured they may gauge demand before making that many.

 

[BoogerMan]

Which one do you prefer? And does the funnel vortex properly?

No my barrel to funnel does not Vortex. I think it is possible because one member has one that vortexes a little bit but the tubes on his could be connected slightly different and that's why. Don't expect a big vortex or any vortex for that matter.

I probably use the barrel to funnel a little more than the double barrel because it actually recycles properly. I do still use the double barrel a bunch though.

You won't be disappointed with either. If you want a true recycler get the barrel to funnel. If you want one with a slightly smoother pull get the double barrel. Or get both and sell the one you don't like

Well I can confirm some unfortunate news. Our man Steven has issued me a FAKE tracking number. That was 2 days ago. I just confirmed with the carrier that the number is bogus. Fuck this guy.

Yep mine is a fake too. I'm still hoping they get sent out but idk why he would issue fake tracking numbers even if he didn't have all of the pieces made. Just give me a tracking number once it really ships. Don't give me the fake bs.

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

He may still be producing them but I really dislike these kinds of lies. It would be so much better to be up front and honest. I deal with the Chinese every day and have done for about a decade or a little more. Lying is a normal thing to do and there is not much shame in being caught lying. I don't use Kathy for the same reason. @blankrider I'm not saying these pieces won't happen. I think they will but imo you should assume Steven is not being entirely honest with you in your dealings.

 

[BoogerMan]

He may still be producing them but I really dislike these kinds of lies. It would be so much better to be up front and honest. I deal with the Chinese every day and have done for about a decade or a little more. Lying is a normal thing to do and there is not much shame in being caught lying. I don't use Kathy for the same reason.

I agree and just said that right before you haha. Looks like we are on the same page.

Have you contacted Steven yet about the fake tracking? I'm thinking of sending him a message to see what he says.

I received my tracking like 5 days before the "required" ship date, so I am wondering why issue a fake tracking number with 5 days left to spare? I think he is just digging himself into a deep hole

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

I agree and just said that right before you haha. Looks like we are on the same page.

Have you contacted Steven yet about the fake tracking? I'm thinking of sending him a message to see what he says.

I received my tracking like 5 days before the "required" ship date, so I am wondering why issue a fake tracking number with 5 days left to spare? I think he is just digging himself into a deep hole

Yeah I just sent him a nasty little message. I'm totally on the same page as you though mate. From the start if it is going to be 4-6 weeks or something then that is fine. Most of us would still buy it. Its just these silly and unnecessary lies that bother me. All it does is reveal their true character and turns us off buying.

 

[BoogerMan]

Yeah I just sent him a nasty little message. I'm totally on the same page as you though mate. From the start if it is going to be 4-6 weeks or something then that is fine. Most of us would still buy it. Its just these silly and unnecessary lies that bother me. All it does is reveal their true character and turns off buying.

Yep I'm feeling the same way. I would have no problem waiting a month for it. We all have enough glass to hold us over until it would get here. Just doesn't make sense to me why lying and issue fake tracking is necessary. I even told him Kathy used to do that and thats why people stopped buying from her, but now she doesn't do that anymore and many more people buy from her. It is like he wants to copy exactly what she did

Let us know what he says. I wonder if we will get the truth or more lies… Maybe he will send you some "expensive" chinese tea with your order since you are so upset hahahaha

 

[flotntoke]

It does suck, and I've been wondering about actual production too. Knowing what we do about these Chinese glass vendors, I think it was a given that he would have a few ready to go - then order more as he got orders from us. This no matter what he said. I never really thought he had 100 ready to go. Kind of wonder if he had any more than the sample we saw pictures of.

So no surprises, and honestly would anyone really expect anything different in this game? Lying and making up for it (with tea, if at all) seems to be a cultural difference we just have to live with. Or, guess we could write to mobius and submit a sidecar design, beg, plead, and pre-order 100 or so at about $400/each (if they even agreed to produce - which is doubtful) - then sit and wait for the 6 - 8 weeks they would tell us about up front. Think I prefer to pay the $40, be lied to about pieces already produced and ready to ship, then wait a week or 2 more than the 10 days and expected shipping time we were told.

Think if we're really expecting anything different, we're lying to ourselves as much as Steven is. Such is life. As long as it gets here as promised within a month of expected time, I can live with it. Not like I don't have 4 or 5 other pieces to use in the meantime - all purchased for a total of less than 1/2 of what one mobius would cost.

How's that old saying go? You get what you pay for. Just glad I can get one of these instead real Mobius that functions about the same and may be of cleaner work. IMO, $350 is a hell of a price to pay for better quality control, less lies and a real Mobius label.

For what it's worth, seems like sunshinestore is the only one who doesn't play this game, and we waited how long for them to come up with this piece? Thanks again to @blankrider for setting this up, and hope no one has any ill-will towards him. Think this is all Steven and cultural differences we have to live with or pay 10x as much for our glass. OR... there is always this option, without a sidecar - when it is back in stock that is.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

It does suck, and I've been wondering about actual production too. Knowing what we do about these Chinese glass vendors, I think it was a given that he would have a few ready to go - then order more as he got orders from us. This no matter what he said. I never really thought he had 100 ready to go. Kind of wonder if he had any more than the sample we saw pictures of.

So no surprises, and honestly would anyone really expect anything different in this game? Lying and making up for it (with tea, if at all) seems to be a cultural difference we just have to live with. Or, guess we could write to mobius and submit a sidecar design, beg, plead, and pre-order 100 or so at about $400/each (if they even agreed to produce - which is doubtful) - then sit and wait for the 6 - 8 weeks they would tell us about up front. Think I prefer to pay the $40, be lied to about pieces already produced and ready to ship, then wait a week or 2 more than the 10 days and expected shipping time we were told.

Think if we're really expecting anything different, we're lying to ourselves as much as Steven is. Such is life. As long as it gets here as promised within a month of expected time, I can live with it. Not like I don't have 4 or 5 other pieces to use in the meantime - all purchased for a total of less than 1/2 of what one mobius would cost.

How's that old saying go? You get what you pay for. Just glad I can get one of these instead real Mobius that functions about the same and may be of cleaner work. IMO, $350 is a hell of a price to pay for better quality control, less lies and a real Mobius label.

For what it's worth, seems like sunshinestore is the only one who doesn't play this game, and we waited how long for them to come up with this piece? Thanks again to @blankrider for setting this up, and hope no one has any ill-will towards him. Think this is all Steven and cultural differences we have to live with or pay 10x as much for our glass. OR... there is always this option, without a sidecar - when it is back in stock that is.

Nobody HAS to do anything. Other sellers will pick up on custom pieces quickly and either copy them, or start taking out requests as well. No need to "settle" for anything as a consumer.

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

@flotntoke Yeah totally agree man. The price is still great and that is what it is all about at the end of the day. I often get next day delivery from Sunshine Store so perhaps they spoilt me. Although I did have a bad experience with them recently (communication issue). imo what we truly need to do is locate the actual glassblowers in China and not the middle man. I can go to Shenzhen pretty much any weekend and do that but I have had no luck sourcing the glassblowers and cutting out the middleman. Perhaps that is a project we can work on? We find a glassblower and I will go and meet them and see if we can do business. I don't know

 

[flotntoke]

Nobody HAS to do anything. Other sellers will pick up on custom pieces quickly and either copy them, or start taking out requests as well. No need to "settle" for anything as a consumer.

Dude... don't take this the wrong way, but if I can get a piece of glass - albeit with a few imperfections, some lies and slow shipping - for 10% of what traditional would cost me, I'm NOT settling for anything. 10% of cost - not 10% off. What I'm saying is if you want perfect shit, no lies, and instant gratification, go for it! But, be ready to pay for it. The $330 Mobius that the GB-187 is a knock off of on ALT (when in stock), would cost even more at any LHS. If anyone has issues with how the FC-187 is going so far, they should take their $400 (or more) to their LHS and pick up what they need. I'll go even one better and offer this to anyone on FC. Shop on dhGate, find what you like, and let me know. I'll gladly handle all the headaches and waiting. Just send me triple the price. I'll give a realistic arrival date and get it there on time or discount accordingly. Or, go to an LHS, find a nice Chinese piece (often labeled as made in USA), and pay the 4x dhGate price to walk out the door with it. Sorry.... I just don't see where "settle" comes into the equation here. $40 for a custom requested piece like this is unheard of.

And to be fair, I'm jumping in on the cynical (realistic?) bandwagon here. For all we know my piece (and many others) will be at the shipping point within the listed 2 days. Just saying I won't be surprised at all if it doesn't ship for another 10 or so days. What really worries me (and is bound to happen sooner or later, tho hopefully not here), is that no piece ever gets shipped. Then we may have to hire a mercenary (Mr. Gwello?) to go get our refund in person!

@flotntoke Yeah totally agree man. The price is still great and that is what it is all about at the end of the day. I often get next day delivery from Sunshine Store so perhaps they spoilt me. Although I did have a bad experience with them recently (communication issue). imo what we truly need to do is locate the actual glassblowers in China and not the middle man. I can go to Shenzhen pretty much any weekend and do that but I have had no luck sourcing the glassblowers and cutting out the middleman. Perhaps that is a project we can work on? We find a glassblower and I will go and meet them and see if we can do business. I don't know

Man.... that would be great! But, with the way business is done there it probably wouldn't be worth it for you unless you charge the same prices (or even more) than what we're getting from dhGate. Then again, would love to see you get the profits, and am sure all would rather deal with you than some of the vendors we have now.

 

[cybrguy]

We are all different on this stuff as we have seen. I don't buy expensive glass. The only piece I have that I've spent more than $75 for is my CGD Recycler. I wouldn't be buying the Mobius if the copy were not available. I would be buying some other inexpensive piece or I wouldn't be buying anything.

Cultural norms or not I don't respond well to being lied to. If he gives me a fake tracking number my order will probably get canceled. He can easily avoid that by not giving me a tracking number until he has a real one. This isn't something I need, it is something I want. I will wait for it as I don't have to have it now, but if he lies to me than I will need to be talked down or just go back to waiting for @yingmin5.